Bills 2nd Rnd pick in 2025 Draft : TJ Sanders - DT South Carolina

[VW82]

3 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Because Jones is washed and saves a good amount of money.

 

We can still make that decision at the end of Aug. In the meantime, what if our rookies just aren't ready. Jones might be the only decent option for the first half of the season. We won't know that part until camp.

[Doc]

7 minutes ago, VW82 said:

We can still make that decision at the end of Aug. In the meantime, what if our rookies just aren't ready. Jones might be the only decent option for the first half of the season. We won't know that part until camp.

 

To give Jones time to find another team.  Releasing him late looks bad.  They might also need the money for rookies.

[stinky finger]

8 minutes ago, VW82 said:

 

We can still make that decision at the end of Aug. In the meantime, what if our rookies just aren't ready. Jones might be the only decent option for the first half of the season. We won't know that part until camp.

Except - he's not a decent option.

 

He's gonna get cut.

[VW82]

42 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

To give Jones time to find another team.  Releasing him late looks bad.  They might also need the money for rookies.

 

Bills roster flexibility > Daquan's FA prospects. Teams take vets into camp and then cut them all the time. It's part of the business. 

 

If cutting Daquan is the only path to signing our draft picks, then ok, but it doesn't look like that's the case. 

[3rdand12]

3 hours ago, billsfan89 said:

Oliver is a very good player, you could argue has he been good enough for a top 10 pick but let’s not pretend Oliver isn’t a good player. The Lions had a top 2 Offensive line last season and Oliver took over that game. Yeah Ed’s had some bad or subpar games too but that’s dam near every single defensive player 

Part of my thinking pre draft , is how to we shake Oliver free to do his thing. Give him one or two guys who can be the new improved D Jones.

 Seems Bills might agree with me on this one.

Groot and Bosa and that guy who is suspend will likely see more positive results as well.

The Dline is improved , if they coach these guys to the best fit and scheme. Expecting adjustments now and as hoped , because of these two picks and Hairston who will play press well. Hopeful anyways

1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

Because Jones is washed and saves a good amount of money.

Is he ? Washed I mean ?

He could still be rotational player , and perhaps renegotiate ? Knowing he certainly is on the decline for sure

[Warriorspikes51]

I hope this young man proves me wrong.  Wasn’t thrilled with the pick. However, he has legit pass rush skill inside.  He’s bigger than Oliver at least.  6’4  maybe he can get up to 310 as playing weight. Then we’re good.
Saw a pro comp of Milton Williams

59 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

Part of my thinking pre draft , is how to we shake Oliver free to do his thing. Give him one or two guys who can be the new improved D Jones.

 Seems Bills might agree with me on this one.

Groot and Bosa and that guy who is suspend will likely see more positive results as well.

The Dline is improved , if they coach these guys to the best fit and scheme. Expecting adjustments now and as hoped , because of these two picks and Hairston who will play press well. Hopeful anyways

Is he ? Washed I mean ?

He could still be rotational player , and perhaps renegotiate ? Knowing he certainly is on the decline for sure

Jones is done.  Give the hungry youngsters playing time to eat.

 

Oliver 

Sanders

Walker

Carter

(Ogunjobi)

[Mikie2times]

I have to say, as much as I’m pissed we didn’t get a clear replacement for Jones, this guy looks like he’s going to be a really solid player. Him and Ed should create a lot of problems on 3rd down. His pass rush skill set is pretty impressive. 

Edited April 28 by Mikie2times

[Thurman#1]

On 4/26/2025 at 8:56 AM, BeavercreekBillsFan said:

Traded up for a sub 300 pound DT. I absolutely despise beane and can’t wait for this regime to be over with. Excited we had 2 2nd rounders and we just lit them on fire. 

 

 

You're likely going to be unhappy for a long long long time, hopefully through several championships.

[Thurman#1]

On 4/27/2025 at 1:30 AM, Maine-iac said:

The correlation between rushing yards given up and losses would be my guess.  Higher the rushing yards given up the more frequent the losses.  Look at the January games on that list.  I count 4 January games we've given up over 120 yards rushing and have 1 win in those games.

 

 

If that's what he's trying to show, I don't think it shows that. Of course teams run more in January. And of course when opponents are ahead they run more.

 

Generally teams will give up more run yards in a loss , as down the end the other team will be running at a higher percentage if they're ahead.

 

On 4/27/2025 at 1:46 AM, Mikie2times said:

Except we have only lost one game by 7 or more points in that entire sample. It’s not like teams are just running to run out the clock. They’re running to keep the ball away from our offense and to control the game. This isn’t a result of correlation at all. It’s how teams attack us and have been doing so for years. It just doesn’t matter that much when we have a 20 point lead.

 

This argument might show slightly less causation. It doesn't show none. Teams that are ahead by seven ... are ahead. Late in the game teams that are ahead are going to run more. Not as much as they'd run if they were ahead by 20. But more than they'd run if they were behind.

 

It's absolutely showing some causation.

 

 

11 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

I hope this young man proves me wrong.  Wasn’t thrilled with the pick. However, he has legit pass rush skill inside.  He’s bigger than Oliver at least.  6’4  maybe he can get up to 310 as playing weight. Then we’re good.
Saw a pro comp of Milton Williams

Jones is done.  Give the hungry youngsters playing time to eat.

 

Oliver 

Sanders

Walker

Carter

(Ogunjobi)

 

 

DaQuan sure did look pretty done last year. I'm hoping there was some reason, but age-related regression seems the most likely cause.

 

Marino thought that bringing in Sanders meant that the Bills are likely to be moving Carter over to more 1-tech this year. That seems possible.

 

And bringing in Deone ought to mellow the "we must have a giant 1-tech or the sky is falling" crowd.

Edited April 28 by Thurman#1

[Chandler#81]

Why isn’t this draft pick pinned on page 1? I think he’ll be a Day 1 rotational DL Opps! Nevermind..

Edited April 28 by Chandler#81

[Dunkirk Donski]

bump

[BigAl2526]

I assume Beane traded up for Sanders because he had reason to believe another team was interested in him.  Given that Ogunjobe is out until late October on suspension and Carter is being tried at 1 tech, there certainly was a need.  Obviously, Beane valued Sanders well above Collins and Josh Farmer and anyone else they could have considered between pick 41 and pick 56When the Bills do something in the draft, I tend not to rush to judgment.  He had his reasons.  Time is the only judge of whether or not it was a good move whose decision carries any weight.

[Doc]

28 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said:

I assume Beane traded up for Sanders because he had reason to believe another team was interested in him.  Given that Ogunjobe is out until late October on suspension and Carter is being tried at 1 tech, there certainly was a need.  Obviously, Beane valued Sanders well above Collins and Josh Farmer and anyone else they could have considered between pick 41 and pick 56When the Bills do something in the draft, I tend not to rush to judgment.  He had his reasons.  Time is the only judge of whether or not it was a good move whose decision carries any weight.

 

I heard the 49'ers.

[MrEpsYtown]

1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

I heard the 49'ers.

Yeah I agree with that. I was the Niners in our mock draft and I traded up for him. In my research it seemed they were all over him. 

[KOKBILLS]

I think it's kinda cool that a few days in Sanders seems to be the forgotten man from the Bills Defensive Draft haul.

 

I think Bills fans are going to be really happy with what Sanders is going to bring on the interior rush packages next to Ed. 

[Augie]

3 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said:

I think it's kinda cool that a few days in Sanders seems to be the forgotten man from the Bills Defensive Draft haul.

 

I think Bills fans are going to be really happy with what Sanders is going to bring on the interior rush packages next to Ed. 

 

Doesn’t this just make you crave seeing some actual football??? They just keep toying with us!

 

The schedule comes out in a couple weeks, and I’m already looking forward to it. As much as I dislike some aspects of the league’s decisions, I must admit they are absolute masters of keeping our attention. Now they are going to steal Christmas from the NBA with 3 NFL games. They know how to stay front and center, and with that comes more $$$$$. It’s a MasterClass.  

[KOKBILLS]

8 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

Doesn’t this just make you crave seeing some actual football??? They just keep toying with us!

 

The schedule comes out in a couple weeks, and I’m already looking forward to it. As much as I dislike some aspects of the league’s decisions, I must admit they are absolute masters of keeping our attention. Now they are going to steal Christmas from the NBA with 3 NFL games. They know how to stay front and center, and with that comes more $$$$$. It’s a MasterClass.  

[Warriorspikes51]

Let’s hope TJ is a legit interior pressure DT on day 1 because we badly need it.  Oliver is far too inconsistent 

 

I wasn’t high on Sanders, but I’m willing to confess being ignorant.

 

get his playing weight at 310 and I’m all in. 

TJ Watt must mean TJ Sanders is elite😂

[KOKBILLS]

31 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Let’s hope TJ is a legit interior pressure DT on day 1 because we badly need it.  Oliver is far too inconsistent 

 

I wasn’t high on Sanders, but I’m willing to confess being ignorant.

 

get his playing weight at 310 and I’m all in. 

TJ Watt must mean TJ Sanders is elite😂

 

I'm not sure about Sanders as a 3 down Defender quite yet... we'll see down the road... But as a quick-pressure interior pass rusher he may have been the best one in this entire Draft IMHO... He can be an absolute problem in there... There was times I was watching him and I was afraid he was going to kill the QB he was coming so fast with so much force. He's got the type of game that developed and used properly won Philly a SB on the interior... He's that good in that single area...

[Warriorspikes51]

1 hour ago, KOKBILLS said:

 

I'm not sure about Sanders as a 3 down Defender quite yet... we'll see down the road... But as a quick-pressure interior pass rusher he may have been the best one in this entire Draft IMHO... He can be an absolute problem in there... There was times I was watching him and I was afraid he was going to kill the QB he was coming so fast with so much force. He's got the type of game that developed and used properly won Philly a SB on the interior... He's that good in that single area...

I think he’s decent enough in run support too. Loved your post though. Very encouraging!