Wide Receiver Train Full Speed Ahead- CHOO CHOO!

[Billsflyer12]

4 hours ago, LEBills said:

As soon as he went to the Steelers, Pickens should have been on his way to Buffalo. Still on rookie deal and on the field he is who they wish Coleman would become. Their were definitely options out there this offseason.

The Bills would never have brought in Pickens to their “Culture.”  He is not a McD, Beane or Josh type of personality.

[LEBills]

5 minutes ago, Billsflyer12 said:

The Bills would never have brought in Pickens to their “Culture.”  He is not a McD, Beane or Josh type of personality.

Diggs didn’t have a sterling reputation in 2020 either and he became the best WR in Bills history. It’s a lack of want from the top that gets explained away as “not a good teammate.” And for what it is worth, I’d hate playing for Arthur Smith too haha

[Billsflyer12]

19 minutes ago, LEBills said:

Diggs didn’t have a sterling reputation in 2020 either and he became the best WR in Bills history. It’s a lack of want from the top that gets explained away as “not a good teammate.” And for what it is worth, I’d hate playing for Arthur Smith too haha

I get it, wish they would take more chances on personality guys.  But the Bills traded Diggs and took a 40 million cap hit for him to be gone.  Diggs may have been working to leave also, but Bills did not have to trade him.  If Josh wanted him in Buffalo he would have been there, he didn’t want him here either.  
 

Everyone Eats is translated to, we don’t want diva/large personalities on this team anymore.  They prove it buy who and how much they pay their proper culture guys.

 

And yes, no idea how Arthur Smith keeps getting jobs.

[cale]

Why does this team hate speed at WR so much? Speed kills. When we have it and when we don’t.

 

if nothing else they should bring back Hamler. He can be had for a box tape. At least he would keep defenses honest. This whole organizational fantasy about Keon becoming a big body possession receiver the Bills need is exactly that. A fantasy. He needs another season or two of maturity and seasoning. 

[gobills404]

1 hour ago, Billsflyer12 said:

The Bills would never have brought in Pickens to their “Culture.”  He is not a McD, Beane or Josh type of personality.

I agree. Their obsession with “culture” at the expense of actual talent on the field is perhaps their biggest flaw.

[LABILLBACKER]

8 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I think it was the contract rather than the compensation that put them off but I was on the trade for DK train too. He was the quickest available route to shoring up a major weakness. He is not an all around elite receiver. But the thing he is elite at is the EXACT thing this offense needs most. Separating outside and down the field.

Look at all the money we wasted on low to mid tier offensive players like Hines, Harty, Sherfield, Palmer, Samuel, Crowder, MVS, etc...etc.  Why doesn’t Beane stop with this ridiculous and FAILED strategy of acquiring bargain basements and get Josh a bonified WR1.  We had no problem paying Diggs?  

[HappyDays]

3 hours ago, Process said:

Defense isn't a player away. Probably isn't two players away.

 

The defense isn't any number of players away... They are a coach away. This idea that they just need to get the right players in the room is the fundamental error that caused this regime to make all the wrong decisions in the offseason. They could have added Myles Garrett and it wouldn't have mattered. No amount of investment we make on that side of the ball is ever going to matter under current management. Either get a new coach in the building or do whatever it takes to make the offense so good that the defense becomes irrelevant. 

[LABILLBACKER]

1 hour ago, LEBills said:

Diggs didn’t have a sterling reputation in 2020 either and he became the best WR in Bills history. It’s a lack of want from the top that gets explained away as “not a good teammate.” And for what it is worth, I’d hate playing for Arthur Smith too haha

This organization prides itself on all this culture crap yet ignores Diggs locker room cancer drama in Minnesota and misses an opportunity at Jefferson. 

[LABILLBACKER]

5 hours ago, frostbitmic said:

The bye week would've been the perfect time to add somebody, they didn't.

 

IMO we need a CB and a Safety over another WR who won't be sent out for the deep pass no matter how fast they are. Perhaps even another LB, our smallish LB's seem to always be injured.

 

Put whatever resources you have left this year on the Defensive side of the ball, next year put all resources on the Offense and give Josh a hand putting 50 on the board every week, Defense doesn't matter, they seem to put all their resources in that boat only to watch it hit an iceberg year after year.

I'm sick and tired of waiting around for McBeane to get this defense right. They've had 9 years. And during that 9 years they also moronically decided to give Josh zero weapons minus a diva head case wr.  

[NewEra]

9 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

I'm sick and tired of waiting around for McBeane to get this defense right. They've had 9 years. And during that 9 years they also moronically decided to give Josh zero weapons minus a diva head case wr.  

“He decided to give Josh zero weapons”  

….. bro

 

 
 

he didn’t “decide to give us zero weapons”.  We have weapons.  We are missing a WR1.  Something we had for 4 seasons and nothing to show for it.  
 

After losing Kincaid and Palmer, our offense was in trouble and our play calls and execution of the better play calls were poor.  
 

Adding a WR1 would be huge for this offense, but he didn’t decide to give Josh nothing.  Keon has been a miss so far, thought wrong about Gabe, dealt with injuries and usage issues with Kincaid, invested a LOT in Diggs, some in Palmer and should’ve kept Hollins.  He should’ve invested more- 💯 but don’t overreact 

[LABILLBACKER]

9 minutes ago, NewEra said:

“He decided to give Josh zero weapons”  

….. bro

 

 
 

he didn’t “decide to give us zero weapons”.  We have weapons.  We are missing a WR1.  Something we had for 4 seasons and nothing to show for it.  
 

After losing Kincaid and Palmer, our offense was in trouble and our play calls and execution of the better play calls were poor.  
 

Adding a WR1 would be huge for this offense, but he didn’t decide to give Josh nothing.  Keon has been a miss so far, thought wrong about Gabe, dealt with injuries and usage issues with Kincaid, invested a LOT in Diggs, some in Palmer and should’ve kept Hollins.  He should’ve invested more- 💯 but don’t overreact 

We have 1 weapon. James Cook is the only elite player other than Josh on this team.  And our brilliant OC chooses to take him off the field every 3rd down. We had a diva for 4 seasons who overtly chose to become "Viking Diggs" again. We do agree we need a WR1. 

 

This isn't over- reaction.  It's just the simple reality of week 7.  You do realize how close we are from being 3-3 or 2-4. 

[Gigs]

1 hour ago, gobills404 said:

I agree. Their obsession with “culture” at the expense of actual talent on the field is perhaps their biggest flaw.

***** culture lol. Id rather we have a HoF WR who stabs his way to the barber chair than a choir boy who makes some good plays and is a better person. I want to win

[Low Positive]

1 minute ago, Gigs said:

***** culture lol. Id rather we have a HoF WR who stabs his way to the barber chair than a choir boy who makes some good plays and is a better person. I want to win

I agree. But then I remember that it's easy for us to say this, because we don't have to live with these guys for 8-10 hours a day for 6 months. There is a reason that Christian Wilkins is still sitting on his couch. 

[starrymessenger]

52 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

The defense isn't any number of players away... They are a coach away. This idea that they just need to get the right players in the room is the fundamental error that caused this regime to make all the wrong decisions in the offseason. They could have added Myles Garrett and it wouldn't have mattered. No amount of investment we make on that side of the ball is ever going to matter under current management. Either get a new coach in the building or do whatever it takes to make the offense so good that the defense becomes irrelevant. 

If you want an offence that good you need a new HC.

[NewEra]

10 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

We have 1 weapon. James Cook is the only elite player other than Josh on this team.  And our brilliant OC chooses to take him off the field every 3rd down. We had a diva for 4 seasons who overtly chose to become "Viking Diggs" again. We do agree we need a WR1. 

 

This isn't over- reaction.  It's just the simple reality of week 7.  You do realize how close we are from being 3-3 or 2-4. 

Dalton Kincaid is definitely a weapon.  Palmer is a lower tier weapon and certainly capable.  But he’s a WR3 type like Shakir (who’s another weapon).  He didn’t decide to give us no weapons.  He didn’t spend enough and failed on some of his investments.  

 

pitchforks coming out!! 

[Gigs]

8 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

I agree. But then I remember that it's easy for us to say this, because we don't have to live with these guys for 8-10 hours a day for 6 months. There is a reason that Christian Wilkins is still sitting on his couch. 

Its true Michael Irvin, or even the much tamer T.O would have hard times being rostered but I feel Wilkins is fubar mentally and maybe rubs people in a Aaron Hernandez type of way.

[DuckyBoys]

we don't have a wr1 or wr2  We have a nice slot wr and te and cook  Only the bills would build a roster with a flame throwing qb and give him no outside/speed wars and then try to sell it to the fan base for a second year in a row

[LABILLBACKER]

20 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Dalton Kincaid is definitely a weapon.  Palmer is a lower tier weapon and certainly capable.  But he’s a WR3 type like Shakir (who’s another weapon).  He didn’t decide to give us no weapons.  He didn’t spend enough and failed on some of his investments.  

 

pitchforks coming out!! 

One good game over 2.5 seasons does not make Kincaid a weapon...yet.  Obviously we're all waiting for him to transition from middle of the road TE to great or even elite.  Your greatest ability is your availability. He was injured last year. Now he's injured again. I actually loved this pick by Beane.  But it's up to Dalton and Brady to decide high high that ceiling is?  I guess your idea of weapons and mine are very different.