Wide Receiver Train Full Speed Ahead- CHOO CHOO!

[BillsFanForever19]

5 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

If they made a move for Shaheed, what % snap count would you expect him to command? He’s currently getting around 75% of snaps in NO. I don’t see a path for this level of usage in Buffalo. 
 

Of the 3 players listed above, I think you’re most likely to see him replace snaps from Moore. Idt anyone would be coming in taking snaps from Coleman or Palmer (if healthy). Shavers is in as a blocking option and Samuel is a gadgety back-up to Shakir. 
 

I would think, much like these other guys, he’d garner roughly 35- 50% of snaps, much like Amari Cooper last year (yes I know he was banged up). I don’t see how this would command such attention that many are seeming to imply would open up our entire offense and make us unstoppable. 
 

Id be happy to be wrong, but those variables that you referenced are important. Nothing against the player. It’s just a bad mix of priorities in the offense, Allen’s trust and current level of performance, snap usage, and scheme. 

 

There really isn't an option out there that can take our Offense (specifically our passing game) from what it's been to "unstoppable". But that doesn't mean we should just go "well, we can't upgrade to unstoppable so why upgrade at all?".

 

Like I've said in another post, there may be no 5 Star fine dining options. But when you're literally eating spoiled, half eaten food out of a garbage can (as we are with those 3) - you'd kill for an order of food from Burger King.

 

Rashid Shaheed has proven to be a very dangerous, speedy deep threat. Just the threat of him getting open on go routes would be massive for us. It would serve for teams to not focus entirely on Cook and crowd the line - as teams know we have no one who can beat simple man single coverage.

 

Of course it would take some time for him to go beyond just a limited route tree. If he's willing to put in the work (as Cooper did) and stays healthy (as Cooper didn't) - I don't think it's the massive issue you think it will be.

 

The bottom line is that we need all the help we can get. Even a limited Shaheed (who has more yards this season than any of our WR's) for a couple weeks would be a massive upgrade over half of our WR core. We simply cannot continue with what we have and expect to compete, even for the division.

 

6 hours ago, billsfan89 said:

Swap a 3rd for a 5th for Shaheed seems fair. I would also look to trade a 7th for Harrison Phillips if he’s available. Mid range moves that could make a difference 

 

It's going to cost more than that for Shaheed. Reportedly there are multiple teams in the mix for him. With the need many teams have at WR combined with not a lot of WR's available and how Shaheed has looked this season - it will likely cost at least a 3rd, straight up.

Edited Wednesday at 07:18 AM by BillsFanForever19

[noacls17]

12 hours ago, Dr.Sack said:

4.72 is blazing fast if we are looking at the 10-yard split which is 90% of all routes. 

He did not run a 4.72

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

https://polymarket.com/event/nfl-players-traded-before-deadline Any know anything about Chris Olave? He's up 37% on polymarket

 

[Alphadawg7]

4 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:

https://polymarket.com/event/nfl-players-traded-before-deadline Any know anything about Chris Olave? He's up 37% on polymarket

 

 

He is up on $2 in volume at $0.99 per - doesn't mean much.  Means someone just bet $2 he might get traded 

[ScottishBills]

DJ Moore is who we should be making a call on. Too much smoke around the Saints guys, prices will rise 

 

Moore on the outside at the Bears, they have drafted Odunze and Loveland and Burden high - must be a chance they would consider moving the guy who is the ex WR1 there?

[thenorthremembers]

3 minutes ago, ScottishBills said:

DJ Moore is who we should be making a call on. Too much smoke around the Saints guys, prices will rise 

 

Moore on the outside at the Bears, they have drafted Odunze and Loveland and Burden high - must be a chance they would consider moving the guy who is the ex WR1 there?

 

For the Bills to trade for Moore they would need to find $9 million more in cap. 

[Pete]

3 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

 

For the Bills to trade for Moore they would need to find $9 million more in cap. 

Extend McGovern?  Seems like the easiest way to free up

$9 million(or more) cap space.

 

Shaheed 2025 salary is $1.23 million.  Beane can find that in his couch .

[PayDaBill$]

20 minutes ago, Pete said:

Extend McGovern?  Seems like the easiest way to free up

$9 million(or more) cap space.

 

Shaheed 2025 salary is $1.23 million.  Beane can find that in his couch .

Shaheed may not be the sexy pick but let’s face it we have beer money on fine wine taste.  At least he checks a few boxes, he’ll draw attention from the opponents secondary, he has speed and he can also serve as a returner on special teams.  

Edited Wednesday at 06:31 PM by PayDaBill$

[ScottishBills]

1 hour ago, thenorthremembers said:

 

For the Bills to trade for Moore they would need to find $9 million more in cap. 

Good. Then find it. 

 

They seemed to find it for the succession of jags and sick notes they signed in free agency over the past couple years

 

They found goddamn $12m for Josh Palmer who has never been past 600 yards in his whole career 🤯🤯🤯

Edited Wednesday at 07:44 PM by ScottishBills

[LabattBlue]

If the Bills end up $hitting the bed in the playoffs this year, I would offer up the 2026 #1 pick and even 2027 #1 in order to acquire a proven #1 WR. 

 

STOP WASTING JOSH’S PRIME YEARS!

 

Then there will be plenty of opportunities to fill LB, S & other depth concerns with picks in rounds 2-7.  

[Dr. Who]

1 hour ago, LabattBlue said:

If the Bills end up $hitting the bed in the playoffs this year, I would offer up the 2026 #1 pick and even 2027 #1 in order to acquire a proven #1 WR. 

 

STOP WASTING JOSH’S PRIME YEARS!

 

Then there will be plenty of opportunities to fill LB, S & other depth concerns with picks in rounds 2-7.  

[BillsFanForever19]

 

[Warriorspikes51]

Did anyone paint an SOS for WR help on the new Highmark grass field yet?

[BillsFanForever19]

Corroborates what we've already known. Chris Olave is not available as they're banging out an extension - but Rashid Shaheed and Brandin Cooks are. And the only other name that's likely to be had if the price is reached is Jakobi Meyers.

Edited 6 hours ago by BillsFanForever19

[EmotionallyUnstable]

13 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

Corroborates what we've already known. Chris Olave is not available as they're banging out an extension - but Rashid Shaheed and Brandin Cooks are. And the only other name that's likely to be had if the price is reached is Jakobi Meyers.

At risk of rekindling a previous discussion, I will say this: the prospects are grim. Saddle up, folks!

[LEBills]

11 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

Corroborates what we've already known. Chris Olave is not available as they're banging out an extension - but Rashid Shaheed and Brandin Cooks are. And the only other name that's likely to be had if the price is reached is Jakobi Meyers.

I’m not sure Meyers is realistic for us at his salary this year. Shaheed contract is half the price and so easier to fit, so it does seem like it will be him or no notable receiver this deadline imo.

[BillsFanForever19]

25 minutes ago, LEBills said:

I’m not sure Meyers is realistic for us at his salary this year. Shaheed contract is half the price and so easier to fit, so it does seem like it will be him or no notable receiver this deadline imo.

 

There are things we can do to move money around. But I agree that Shaheed fits what we need much better, both in terms of financials and what he brings and it's possible effects on the Offense.

 

More and more everyday, it feels like Rashid Shaheed is the guy for us to me.

 

Beane really f'ed us this off-season (and in years prior) when it comes to the Position. But we still have to make the best out of what's available to us now.

 

Khalil Shakir, Rashid Shaheed, Josh Palmer, Gabe Davis, Keon Coleman, and Curtis Samuel is likely the best that we can do. And i'd take it over what we have now.

Edited 5 hours ago by BillsFanForever19