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19 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

It's a deceiving contract.  It's basically a one year contract that counts about $4m against the cap for one season.  Then only $750k in dead money if you cut him after this season.  He can get an extra $1m in incentives based on how many catches he makes.  I don't think the Bills would agree to those same incentives kind of pointing to my belief that he thinks he'd have more playing time with the Pats then here.

 

I'd have at least matched that contract if I was Beane instead of paying E. Moore $2.5m.  I know we're always tight against the cap but it's at most only $1.5m more expensive to have signed Hollins.  Then just eating $750k next year in dead cap if you wanted to move on from him.

 

Like you said though, it's ultimately the playing time. He really overachieved for us last season. Which was great for him. But at the end of the day, I don't think the Bills really wanted him playing as big of a role as he did for us. It was more of a necessity due to injuries and Coleman not lighting it up right out of the gate. 

 

That's why they signed Palmer. And with him, Shakir, Coleman, Samuel, and Kincaid he'd be taking a step back from the role he had last year - unless there were injuries again.

 

And for that 5th spot, I think they wanted someone who could stretch the field situationally for us. Mack doesn't provide that. I believe they thought they were going to Draft a speed guy by Round 5 - but the board just kept falling Defense in Rounds 2-4 and there wasn't really anything of value left by Round 5. So they pivoted and signed Moore. 1 yr, 2.5m guaranteed was probably their ceiling.

 

I don't think Mack wanted the role he'd have, I don't think they wanted Mack for that role bc of his lack of speed, or to pay 3.5m guaranteed, up to 8.4m on a 2 yr deal for that role. Palmer really spelled the end for Hollins.

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4 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Like you said though, it's ultimately the playing time. He really overachieved for us last season. Which was great for him. But at the end of the day, I don't think the Bills really wanted him playing as big of a role as he did for us. It was more of a necessity due to injuries and Coleman not lighting it up right out of the gate. 

 

That's why they signed Palmer. And with him, Shakir, Coleman, Samuel, and Kincaid he'd be taking a step back from the role he had last year - unless there were injuries again.

 

And for that 5th spot, I think they wanted someone who could stretch the field situationally for us. Mack doesn't provide that. I believe they thought they were going to Draft a speed guy by Round 5 - but the board just kept falling Defense in Rounds 2-4 and there wasn't really anything of value left by Round 5. So they pivoted and signed Moore. 1 yr, 2.5m guaranteed was probably their ceiling.

 

I don't think Mack wanted the role he'd have, I don't think they wanted Mack for that role bc of his lack of speed, or to pay 3.5m guaranteed, up to 8.4m on a 2 yr deal for that role. Palmer really spelled the end for Hollins.

Makes sense to some degree. I’d say Palmer took Cooper’s role and with Samuel playing better at the end of the year, his targets would go down. Obviously the Bills want Coleman to get more targets too. All that said, he probably has better stats as 4/5th WR with Allen than whatever he ends up at with the Patriots. Last year with Allen was more productive than he has been in almost all other years with lesser QBs.

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