Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 About 600 yards and 3 TD for Coleman. Bishop a backup Davis a backup, 3rd and short guy Van Pran could start, imo , the one pick I'm really excited to see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 7 hours ago, GunnerBill said: High level special teams play. The British guy isn't even a rugby player. Not really. He is an amateur rugby player and boxer. The chances of him being anything at all are very remote. As of pure football guy through and through I love Gilliam Like you can't have 51 all pros on your roster... You can't have 51 pro bowlers You need meat and potato guys... Gritty guys who will do anything for the team... Punt unit , kick off unit, kick return unit You're not putting Dawson knox out there lol Yeah he's playing a dying position... But he's a good enough athlete to be an emergency tight end Catches solidly, and runs hard when given the chance Core special team guy... I hope Josh throws to him once a game... To keep people slightly honest He has the athleticism to be a weapon as a fullback... Sam gash light 1 minute ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: About 600 yards and 3 TD for Coleman. Bishop a backup Davis a backup, 3rd and short guy Van Pran could start, imo , the one pick I'm really excited to see I do love how this board is lukewarm on our top two picks Yet think an undersized, short-armed center who plays with bad technique will win the job When McGovern played center very well at Penn State.. is now one of the bigger more athletic and stronger centers in the NFL... While having starting experience on the line He is not going to get beat out... In fact he's more likely to get a massive contract in 2 years from a team looking for a center for 5 years Center is physically the easiest... And McGovern is very strong and huge for a center... He's going to dominate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 37 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: As of pure football guy through and through I love Gilliam Like you can't have 51 all pros on your roster... You can't have 51 pro bowlers You need meat and potato guys... Gritty guys who will do anything for the team... Punt unit , kick off unit, kick return unit You're not putting Dawson knox out there lol Yeah he's playing a dying position... But he's a good enough athlete to be an emergency tight end Catches solidly, and runs hard when given the chance Core special team guy... I hope Josh throws to him once a game... To keep people slightly honest He has the athleticism to be a weapon as a fullback... Sam gash light I do love how this board is lukewarm on our top two picks Yet think an undersized, short-armed center who plays with bad technique will win the job When McGovern played center very well at Penn State.. is now one of the bigger more athletic and stronger centers in the NFL... While having starting experience on the line He is not going to get beat out... In fact he's more likely to get a massive contract in 2 years from a team looking for a center for 5 years Center is physically the easiest... And McGovern is very strong and huge for a center... He's going to dominate I haven’t been super excited about the center situation but of the question marks I do think he is one that could actually end up emphatically filling the hole he is slotted up for. It’s no guarantee but he’d be the least shocking of the safety, center, wr1, etc… to actually hit it out of the park Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 1 minute ago, NoSaint said: I haven’t been super excited about the center situation but of the question marks I do think he is one that could actually end up emphatically filling the hole he is slotted up for. It’s no guarantee but he’d be the least shocking of the safety, center, wr1, etc… to actually hit it out of the park If you put Vanderbilt next to his name Nobody would be that high on the pic... He has some good traits... I have him as a solidly one to two year developmental guy I think he could be the starting center after 2 years of development on a good team he plays with below average technique against top guys... Has par core strength is undersized with short arms... Nothing screams day one NFL starter McGovern is 6'5 .. played college center... Is stronger and athletic with years of NFL strength and conditioning... Signs point to him being very good Vpg has some traits you want to develop... He would get bulldozed in the AFC East if we asked him to be our linchpin this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 I think we get a lot of solid production from the rookies: Coleman: is a starter. 5TD, 400 yards. A red zone menace with Knox and Coleman, but not much of a contributor outside of the redzone in year one. Bishop: is a day 1 starter. Plays better than Poyer did last year by the end of the year. Davis: huge contributor on short yardage plays that takes designed running off Allen’s hands. Solomon is a huge surprise. 5 sacks, mostly at the end if the year. Guy led college, and sacks generally predict future successful edge players. Carter: solid rotation DT. Van Pran: starting center by end of year. All rookie team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 14 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: If you put Vanderbilt next to his name Nobody would be that high on the pic... He has some good traits... I have him as a solidly one to two year developmental guy I think he could be the starting center after 2 years of development on a good team he plays with below average technique against top guys... Has par core strength is undersized with short arms... Nothing screams day one NFL starter McGovern is 6'5 .. played college center... Is stronger and athletic with years of NFL strength and conditioning... Signs point to him being very good Vpg has some traits you want to develop... He would get bulldozed in the AFC East if we asked him to be our linchpin this year I should have been clear I was agreeing on McGovern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 27 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: I hope you're right. If bills get 5 sacks from Solomon, that would be huge production for a 5th round rookie edge I mean, that’s not a huge number. For context 4.5 sacks would have him tied for 99th last year. It’s really not crazy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 9 minutes ago, NoSaint said: I should have been clear I was agreeing on McGovern Well that makes sense then I think he is going to earn a large contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 21 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I mean, that’s not a huge number. For context 4.5 sacks would have him tied for 99th last year. It’s really not crazy. Fair. If you look it that way though, that's about a low end DE3 or a very high end DE4. I think he's DE5, assuming he's even active every game. I am not saying you're wrong. I just think that would be extremely good and encouraging production for a 5th round rookie rotational end who may not be active every game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 49 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: Fair. If you look it that way though, that's about a low end DE3 or a very high end DE4. I think he's DE5, assuming he's even active every game. I am not saying you're wrong. I just think that would be extremely good and encouraging production for a 5th round rookie rotational end who may not be active every game. I think that the Bills will have roughly 1100 defensive snaps (give or take). I’m thinking that he plays about 35%. That’s 385 defensive snaps. Let’s say that 250 of those are pass plays (probably conservative for how he will be used). He needs to get to the QB on 2% of the plays. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 14 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I think that the Bills will have roughly 1100 defensive snaps (give or take). I’m thinking that he plays about 35%. That’s 385 defensive snaps. Let’s say that 250 of those are pass plays (probably conservative for how he will be used). He needs to get to the QB on 2% of the plays. I hope you're right sir. Would be awesome to get 5 plus sacks from him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 15 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I don't think you are an idiot. Just wrong. no it’s both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 I just Love how Beane weaved through the draft and FA, trading through the draft and cutting dead weight and adding value in FA with limited resources. Expect alot of them to have big impacts from day 1 on.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BontitaBills Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Did we sign any of our picks yet or are we waiting until June 1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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