Kirby Jackson Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 2 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Again I say Kincaid could become a guy that gives DCs fits, but he's gotta become more than an intermediate receiver and show some big play ability. 1 minute ago, QLBillsFan said: Yes and score TDs.. must improve on that to be a serious threat. I think Kincaid will become an elite weapon. I think he’s a Pro Bowl TE this year. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 7 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: You are pessimistic… they haven’t even been through the draft yet … Again, I'm realistic. They are going into the draft with 5 massive holes, and I don't see a realistic scenario where they get more than 3 starting caliber players. There's no chance that they aren't starting someone who doesn't belong as a starter on even a terrible team, let alone one that says they hope to win. They'll never admit to it being a rebuild year, but it absolutely is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: When did I say that they don’t have “upside?” Please share that post. Otherwise, you’re making stuff up. They could be better than they have been but that is ALL speculation. Their floor is also REALLY low. What happens if Shakir can’t handle volume? What if Shorter never makes the team? What if Samuel is exactly the guy that I said? The Bills, today, have a bottom 3 WR room. I appreciate you listing some of the teams in their tier. I think, currently the Giants are slightly better and the Pats are with Bourne, Juju, Osborn and Douglas. Neither is good but both are better. These are also the teams adding MHJ/Nabers/Odunze who are all better than every single WR on all 4 of those teams. By omission.. the data on Shakir in the 2nd half of the season was remarkable. Targets to catch % was #1. I missed the Giants as well. It’s fine if you think they are the 3rd worst WR room. And I’m not making anything up. The Bills will complete 390 passes to a wide variety of players. Some of whom will have the opportunity to make big plays in critical games when it counts. At that point it will be clear if the Bills sent Diggs packing one year too soon or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 7 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: No, I don’t feel we will be as good this year as in previous years… But I don’t necessarily don’t think that’s a bad thing…We are in a mini rebuild, despite what the organization might say…And I feel this is a 2 year rebuild …👍 Bad time to be rebuilding when Pegs has got a lot of PSLs to sell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 Just now, QLBillsFan said: By omission.. the data on Shakir in the 2nd half of the season was remarkable. Targets to catch % was #1. I missed the Giants as well. It’s fine if you think they are the 3rd worst WR room. And I’m not making anything up. The Bills will complete 390 passes to a wide variety of players. Some of whom will have the opportunity to make big plays in critical games when it counts. At that point it will be clear if the Bills sent Diggs packing one year too soon or not. It was just such limited volume (like 38 targets) that I want to see more. He was awesome. I hope that’s the guy that he is with a lot more volume and attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 2 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Again, I'm realistic. They are going into the draft with 5 massive holes, and I don't see a realistic scenario where they get more than 3 starting caliber players. There's no chance that they aren't starting someone who doesn't belong as a starter on even a terrible team, let alone one that says they hope to win. They'll never admit to it being a rebuild year, but it absolutely is. Holes ..like replacing the corpses of Hyde and Poyer last year …? Safety is the least of my worries … But look… if they aren’t walking away with 2 good WR prospects this time next week ,,,I’ll be the first to agree with you … But I just can’t see that they have walked away from Diggs with no plan to replace him and Davis immediately…. Pegula wouldn’t have agreed to it otherwise ..he has got PSLs to sell, and a crap team wont help that .. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 3 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: It was just such limited volume (like 38 targets) that I want to see more. He was awesome. I hope that’s the guy that he is with a lot more volume and attention. Fair enough.. should be interesting how BB builds this over the next few months. Quick pan to Thursday night and BB trades back to take an OL or DT with pick 35 on Friday. We will all lose our … if that happens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 McD is still our coach. No we’re not in contention and we won’t be until he is replaced. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 34 minutes ago, QLBillsFan said: Fair enough.. should be interesting how BB builds this over the next few months. Quick pan to Thursday night and BB trades back to take an OL or DT with pick 35 on Friday. We will all lose our … if that happens. Lol, I’ll eventually talk myself into that being a good idea but it’s a disaster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantha Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 I think that when you have Allen at QB then yes, you are a contender. KC has done more with less at WR, and there is no reason why the Bills can survive and thrive without Diggs. We just need to get the work done this offseason, adding young talent, and a few cap casualty cast-offs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said: Again, I'm realistic. They are going into the draft with 5 massive holes, and I don't see a realistic scenario where they get more than 3 starting caliber players. There's no chance that they aren't starting someone who doesn't belong as a starter on even a terrible team, let alone one that says they hope to win. They'll never admit to it being a rebuild year, but it absolutely is. Sure, a team with Josh Allen in his prime, a coach going into his eighth year with the team, and a veteran roster is "rebuilding"...yeah, OK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Trev said: McD is still our coach. No we’re not in contention and we won’t be until he is replaced. So, who would you suggest to replace McDermott? Mike McDaniel whose Fins were great at beating the crap out of bottom feeders (Broncos, Jests, Commanders, etc) but managed a single win against teams with winning records? Maybe Bill Belichick? Edited April 21 by SoTier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrivefourfive Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 We all expect a playoff birth. The Bills have an impressive regular season and win 12+ games but are playoff fakers and even lose ANOTHER home playoff game. or The Bills figure it out late (again) and go into the playoffs playing well, win a game and compete in another (again), which would be a surprise and give some hope for the following season. Which scenario would you prefer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 9 minutes ago, Thrivefourfive said: We all expect a playoff birth. The Bills have an impressive regular season and win 12+ games but are playoff fakers and even lose ANOTHER home playoff game. or The Bills figure it out late (again) and go into the playoffs playing well, win a game and compete in another (again), which would be a surprise and give some hope for the following season. Which scenario would you prefer? I'd prefer the Bills to have some luck in the playoffs, especially in regard to coin flips and injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 24 minutes ago, Yantha said: I think that when you have Allen at QB then yes, you are a contender. KC has done more with less at WR, and there is no reason why the Bills can survive and thrive without Diggs. We just need to get the work done this offseason, adding young talent, and a few cap casualty cast-offs. Agree on Allen But KC is not the template. They have a HoF offensive HC considered one of the best to ever do it and a HoF TE considered one of the best to ever do it. They've never not had at least one surefire HOF offensive weapon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeepPass Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 Defense is the scary thing for this years Bills. They couldn't stop good teams from scoring last year and none of our F/A signings this off season are above average players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 1 hour ago, Yantha said: I think that when you have Allen at QB then yes, you are a contender. KC has done more with less at WR, and there is no reason why the Bills can survive and thrive without Diggs. We just need to get the work done this offseason, adding young talent, and a few cap casualty cast-offs. Reid >>>>> Brady/McDermott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoMAn Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 No. Down year. Should still get 8 or 9 wins. Mediocre defense and a revamped O-line and no # 1 WR. It would be surprising if they’re a serious contender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 (edited) Going to be a lot of disappointed Bills fans this year I see Edited April 21 by Gunsgoodtime 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Gunsgoodtime said: Going to be a lot of disappointed Bills fans this year I see Vegas got them as 4th favourites … you got an opportunity make some real money this year Edited April 21 by Aussie Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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