Irv Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Demented Biden and Third Term Obammy have completely botched this situation. No concept of international policy. Weak and dumb. Not a good combination. What a mess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 While the White House works on reducing the prospects of an expanded war in the Middle East, House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) has the weight of U.S. allies’ futures — and his job — on his shoulders. He’s expected to make a decision this week on how he will address the crises in Israel, Gaza, Ukraine and the Indo-Pacific. He’ll host a Republican conference meeting tonight to discuss it, one person familiar with the meeting said. But frustrated Republicans who think it’s past time to fund Ukraine and Israel hope his decision is imminent. Johnson and his staff spent yesterday discussing options. President Biden convened a call with Johnson, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) to discuss Iran’s Saturday night attack on Israel. The president encouraged Johnson to pass the Senate’s $95 billion funding bill for Ukraine, Israel, Gaza humanitarian aid and Taiwan, according to a readout from the White House. This week was long expected to be crunchtime for Johnson on national security funding, after he promised to tackle the issue once the House passed a FISA reauthorization and funded the government — two priorities with deadlines. But after Iran launched more than 300 missiles and drones toward Israel over the weekend, pressure on Johnson to act has only increased. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/04/15/its-make-or-break-time-israel-ukraine-aid-johnson/ 12 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Right off the rip, I’d go with your claim that no Israelis have died. And, of course, that your obviously incorrect assessment of people being dead amounts to “a detail”. So lame. Just go fly a kite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BillStime Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 How do the cult critters square this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Biden completely botched this whole thing. Needs to stop taking orders from Obammy. What a mess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 (edited) By some accounts Isreal is planning a response which is said may occur at any time. Biden has told them to "take the win". I think that's good advice for now but given the circumstances and the players I expect they'll ignore it and the situation will escalate further. Edited April 15 by All_Pro_Bills 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 1 hour ago, BillStime said: How do the cult critters square this? None of us support Russia so....... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 26 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: None of us support Russia so....... Hoax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AlBUNDY4TDS Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 2 hours ago, BillStime said: Hoax. Everything you believe in is a hoax. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeby Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 4 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: By some accounts Isreal is planning a response which is said may occur at any time. Biden has told them to "take the win". I think that's good advice for now but given the circumstances and the players I expect they'll ignore it and the situation will escalate further. Yup. Israel is a crappy girl friend who likes to start fights knowing her man will have to finish. No way the US is going to keep in the background simply feeding the MIC much longer. Israel should take the win from the feckless Iran attack and shut up 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Israel should make Tehran a sheet of glass. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 2 hours ago, sleeby said: Yup. Israel is a crappy girl friend who likes to start fights knowing her man will have to finish. No way the US is going to keep in the background simply feeding the MIC much longer. Israel should take the win from the feckless Iran attack and shut up Not sure if this post is totally ignorant or just plain dumb. Toss up. What a mess. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComradeKayAdams Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 16 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: By some accounts Isreal is planning a response which is said may occur at any time. Biden has told them to "take the win". I think that's good advice for now but given the circumstances and the players I expect they'll ignore it and the situation will escalate further. Yup. Sadly, I fully expect Israel to escalate. The time of their response probably depends on the time that they plan to initiate the Rafah offensive in southern Gaza. Having to manage a war on multiple fronts (including the Hezbollah one), with a sagging economy and limited manpower and strained international relationships, COULD hopefully convince them to abandon a retaliatory response altogether. However…Israel’s motivations for bombing the Iranian consulate building in Syria were fairly transparent. A regional war for them accomplishes the following: 1. Further delays Israel’s calls for elections, thereby allowing the domestically unpopular Bibi to maintain power and avoid facing corruption charges. 2. Sinks Biden’s own domestic popularity possibly through November. Trump is likely viewed as the more reliable ally to Israel who will let Bibi do whatever he wants (which is not to say that AIPAC-controlled Genocide Joe has been a shining beacon of morality, but it’s obvious which side in American politics faces more anti-Zionism pressure from its constituents). 3. Bolsters wavering U.S. motivation to continue supplying Israel with weapons that, in turn, can also be used (illegally) for Israel’s genocide in Gaza. 4. Distracts from the Gazan genocide. 5. Provides the means and justification to destroy Iran’s nuclear weapons capabilities (Israel’s ultimate objective with Iran). Quick Angry Kay Side Rant: What’s so amusing to me are all the MAGA types criticizing Biden for his dovish stance on Iran. Whatever happened to being anti-war, anti-establishment, and anti-MIC?? These alleged right-wing “populists,” blinded by their political tribalism and latent Islamophobia, are essentially American supremacists and closet neocon imperialists…intellectual children whose minds exist in a dichotomous world of good guys vs. bad guys, like some bad Hollywood action movie. Some of these MAGA-ts also have significant financial investments in military contractor companies, yet no children of their own who would be sent to fight and die in another stupid Middle East war. Ugh! Angry Kay is angry! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 (edited) The last week has been a slow wagging of the dog. Notice no one ever calls for Hamas to give up, surrender. Edited April 16 by Tommy Callahan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 (edited) 49 minutes ago, ComradeKayAdams said: Quick Angry Kay Side Rant: What’s so amusing to me are all the MAGA types criticizing Biden for his dovish stance on Iran. Whatever happened to being anti-war, anti-establishment, and anti-MIC?? These alleged right-wing “populists,” blinded by their political tribalism and latent Islamophobia, are essentially American supremacists and closet neocon imperialists…intellectual children whose minds exist in a dichotomous world of good guys vs. bad guys, like some bad Hollywood action movie. Some of these MAGA-ts also have significant financial investments in military contractor companies, yet no children of their own who would be sent to fight and die in another stupid Middle East war. Ugh! Angry Kay is angry! A phobia is typically an irrational fear of something. Islamophobia, by definition is an irrational fear of Islam. But is it irrational? Because these religious zealots do really want to kill Christians and Jews. And any other non-believers. Of course there are Christian and Jewish zealots that want to kill Muslims too. I think there's a major distinction between so-called MAGA and Neocons/Neoliberals. Because there are two Americas. America the country, and America the Empire. For the purpose of simplicity, MAGA is about what's best for the country and Neocons/Neoliberals are about what's best for the Empire. Most of what Washington claims its all about is support of the country but that's just a ruse. What they really do is about maintaining the Empire. What other country has 600 military bases (and 100's of other CIA, intel units) spread around the world? That's consistent with the attributes and actions of Empire. All for the good of the people you occupy, right? I consider the European continent of "independent democracies" to be vassal States under the control of Washington. They have no major policies or programs outside the sphere of Washington's control. NATO for example is primarily a mechanism of control for Washington and not a defense alliance. That's the world of the Neocon. I could go on.. The problem for the Empire in the 2020's is its out of money and the international system of finance that allowed it to borrow and spend infinite amounts of money to maintain its control is breaking down and in the process of being replaced by a multi-polar system of global finances which is challenging the supremacy of the US dollar. The fight everywhere is about resisting this transition. Edited April 16 by All_Pro_Bills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 19 hours ago, BillStime said: How do the cult critters square this? Iran is absolutely, unquestionably an ally of Putin. Trump is obviously and buddy of Putin. Friends of friends 16 hours ago, BillsFanNC said: Trump pulled out of the deal, so Iran got the money and is building the bomb. Trump is a complete idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 1 hour ago, ComradeKayAdams said: Yup. Sadly, I fully expect Israel to escalate. The time of their response probably depends on the time that they plan to initiate the Rafah offensive in southern Gaza. Having to manage a war on multiple fronts (including the Hezbollah one), with a sagging economy and limited manpower and strained international relationships, COULD hopefully convince them to abandon a retaliatory response altogether. However…Israel’s motivations for bombing the Iranian consulate building in Syria were fairly transparent. A regional war for them accomplishes the following: 1. Further delays Israel’s calls for elections, thereby allowing the domestically unpopular Bibi to maintain power and avoid facing corruption charges. 2. Sinks Biden’s own domestic popularity possibly through November. Trump is likely viewed as the more reliable ally to Israel who will let Bibi do whatever he wants (which is not to say that AIPAC-controlled Genocide Joe has been a shining beacon of morality, but it’s obvious which side in American politics faces more anti-Zionism pressure from its constituents). 3. Bolsters wavering U.S. motivation to continue supplying Israel with weapons that, in turn, can also be used (illegally) for Israel’s genocide in Gaza. 4. Distracts from the Gazan genocide. 5. Provides the means and justification to destroy Iran’s nuclear weapons capabilities (Israel’s ultimate objective with Iran). Quick Angry Kay Side Rant: What’s so amusing to me are all the MAGA types criticizing Biden for his dovish stance on Iran. Whatever happened to being anti-war, anti-establishment, and anti-MIC?? These alleged right-wing “populists,” blinded by their political tribalism and latent Islamophobia, are essentially American supremacists and closet neocon imperialists…intellectual children whose minds exist in a dichotomous world of good guys vs. bad guys, like some bad Hollywood action movie. Some of these MAGA-ts also have significant financial investments in military contractor companies, yet no children of their own who would be sent to fight and die in another stupid Middle East war. Ugh! Angry Kay is angry! Yawn……….it’s always evil MAGA people. You are a magaphobic. You belittle and demean anyone who doesn’t fall in line with your marxists views. You are a shining example of the Democratic parties left wing nut jobs who have taken over the party. You and your ilk disgusts me, this is coming from a lifelong democrat who walked away from the evil left wing democrat party because they no longer represent what the Democratic Party used to believe in!! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phypon Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 23 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Iran is absolutely, unquestionably an ally of Putin. Trump is obviously and buddy of Putin. Friends of friends Trump pulled out of the deal, so Iran got the money and is building the bomb. Trump is a complete idiot Somebody should tell Biden he's not the VP anymore and that as Pres he can make deals too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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