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25 minutes ago, 4th&long said:

You mean the art of going bankrupt? 

 

If it keeps you up at night so be it.

 

Glad I have YOU to worry about it.

 

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1 hour ago, JFKjr said:

 

It's a negotiating tool.

 

I could explain further, but you could also read "the Art of the Deal."

OK, so tariffs are used as leverage to exact concessions from our trade partner. Makes sense so far, although the legality of using tariffs for that purpose under the guise of national security sounds a little suspect ...

 

... but tariffs are also supposed to replace other taxes - like income tax revenue, right? I mean, Trump said it himself when he coined the term "External Revenue Service" (a/k/a the United States Customs Service). 

 

So if his tariffs as bargaining ploy work, his tariffs as revenue generators fail.

 

So it's pretty much bs. Or he really doesn't understand the zero sum nature of these two conflicting purposes. Or both.

 

You are more adept and grammar/spelling/usage than at economics/game theory.

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Dems: We hate how everything is going, it is a threat to democracy! It is making things tough for the people

 

Rational person: What are your plans in doing something about it?

 

Dems: Continuing the plan under Biden, four years of Whining, bitching, gaslighting, frivolous abuse of the court system......and oh yeah,  we added the smashing of Teslas this time around.

 

Rational person: You see, this is why you lost last time, and why your approval is still at an all time low despite what is happening with Tariffs, the Ukraine and DOGE.

 

Dems: But Trump is hiiiiiiitleeeeeeeeeeer!!!!!

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Posted
5 hours ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

About 90% of Americans use the standard deduction and don't itemize their taxes.  A few hundred a month you can write off won't move the needle as the standard deduction will still be the better option.  So, this really only positively impacts the well off.

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3 hours ago, JFKjr said:

 

It's a negotiating tool.

 

I could explain further, but you could also read "the Art of the Deal."

Art of the Deal, 

Like the Apprentice, pure fiction

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17 hours ago, dgrochester55 said:

Dems: We hate how everything is going, it is a threat to democracy! It is making things tough for the people

 

Rational person: What are your plans in doing something about it?

 

Dems: Continuing the plan under Biden, four years of Whining, bitching, gaslighting, frivolous abuse of the court system......and oh yeah,  we added the smashing of Teslas this time around.

 

Rational person: You see, this is why you lost last time, and why your approval is still at an all time low despite what is happening with Tariffs, the Ukraine and DOGE.

 

Dems: But Trump is hiiiiiiitleeeeeeeeeeer!!!!!

You have a lot of time on your hands.  Get a job.  And get off of welfare.  

19 hours ago, JFKjr said:

 

It's a negotiating tool.

 

I could explain further, but you could also read "the Art of the Deal."

How many chapters are dedicated to emerging from chapters 7/11?

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3 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

 

How many chapters are dedicated to emerging from chapters 7/11?

 

Ironically that's exactly what Trump's going to need to do with the U.S.  We've been driving toward insolvency for decades, and there is no amount of tinkering with the system that's going to fix that.

 

I expect him to usher in an entirely new system.

 

But, carry on with the Libnut interpretations of Economics 101.

Posted

 

Who ?

 

Trump’s Auto Tariffs Just Got a Huge Endorsement

Matt Margolis 

 

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United Auto Workers (UAW) President Shawn Fain, who backed Kamala Harris in last year’s election, just delivered the most significant endorsement yet of President Donald Trump’s tariffs on foreign-made automobiles. Defying the left’s narrative, Fain called the tariffs a necessary tool to bring manufacturing jobs back to the United States.

 

Speaking on CBS’s “Face the Nation,” Fain agreed with Trump trade adviser Peter Navarro’s assessment that American auto plants are operating at only 60% capacity, which leaves plenty of room to ramp up production domestically. 

 

“He’s spot on,” Fain said, citing the example of Stellantis, which recently laid off 2,000 workers in Warren, Mich., after shifting Ram truck production to Mexico. “They could shift that work back in very short order and be producing Ram trucks right back there and put those people back to work.”

 

https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2025/03/31/this-is-the-most-significant-endorsement-of-trumps-auto-tariffs-yet-n4938440

 

 

 

 

 

 

Posted
9 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

Who ?

 

Trump’s Auto Tariffs Just Got a Huge Endorsement

Matt Margolis 

 

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United Auto Workers (UAW) President Shawn Fain, who backed Kamala Harris in last year’s election, just delivered the most significant endorsement yet of President Donald Trump’s tariffs on foreign-made automobiles. Defying the left’s narrative, Fain called the tariffs a necessary tool to bring manufacturing jobs back to the United States.

 

Speaking on CBS’s “Face the Nation,” Fain agreed with Trump trade adviser Peter Navarro’s assessment that American auto plants are operating at only 60% capacity, which leaves plenty of room to ramp up production domestically. 

 

“He’s spot on,” Fain said, citing the example of Stellantis, which recently laid off 2,000 workers in Warren, Mich., after shifting Ram truck production to Mexico. “They could shift that work back in very short order and be producing Ram trucks right back there and put those people back to work.”

 

https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2025/03/31/this-is-the-most-significant-endorsement-of-trumps-auto-tariffs-yet-n4938440

 

 

 

 

 

 


Eff unions. Rent-seeking leeches. 
 

Oh, and they’re completely wrong too. 

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It takes an astonishing level of incompetence to push Japan and South Korea so far that they align with China against the U.S.

 

Unbelievably reckless.

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Homelander said:

It takes an astonishing level of incompetence to push Japan and South Korea so far that they align with China against the U.S.

 

Unbelievably reckless.

 

 

As Trumps America chooses isolation and a retreat from International trade and engagement, China will happily move into the vacuum to form alliances, trade agreements etc. to become the dominant world power. 

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His supporters are growing quiet and incapable of defending this insanity. If they do try it’s certainly not with logic shared by the most educated on the subject. Meanwhile this topic will define his presidency. It’s what he focuses on most, talks about most, and will impact us the most. Most Americans in polling are already saying he needs to focus on other things. 

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On 2/1/2025 at 6:58 PM, JDHillFan said:

 

And when this doesn’t happen, which it won’t, will you be here to walk back your hysteria? Rhetorical question. 


Hey buddy, just checking in on this dog**** elitist nonsense. Am I allowed to be upset yet?

Posted
2 hours ago, Roundybout said:


Hey buddy, just checking in on this dog**** elitist nonsense. Am I allowed to be upset yet?

 

On 8/5/2024 at 10:24 AM, Roundybout said:


You’re so mad, I’ll buy the dips today. 

 

Knock yourself out. 

Posted

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An Economist's Take on Tariffs: They May Be Bad, but Income Taxes Are Worse

Ward Clark

 

Walter Edward Block is an economist. He's not just any economist, either; he is a self-professed anarcho-capitalist, which term describes the free-est free traders that ever free traded. He holds the Harold E. Wirth Eminent Scholar Endowed Chair in Economics at the J. A. Butt School of Business at Loyola University/New Orleans, and he is a member of the Faculty Network of the Foundation for Economic Education. So, he has been around the economic block a few times.

 

He's not a fan of tariffs, as you might expect from an anarcho-capitalist after the manner of Ludwig von Mises. But as it happens, he's even less of a fan of the income tax and reckons that tariffs may be the lesser of two evils:

 

...when it comes to comparative advantage, all too many people are out to lunch insofar as the teachings of Economics 101 are concerned. They fear that other countries might be more efficient than we are; with free trade, they would produce everything, we, nothing, and we would all starve to death from massive unemployment.

To dispel this myth, let’s consider a thought experiment. A lawyer is as good a typist as his secretary. He can produce $1,000 per day by practicing his profession. But for every such day, he needs a certain amount of typing. He can produce $200 worth each day. In two days, he can thus earn $1200 on his own. If he hires a typist, he can earn $2,000 from lawyering in two days, but must pay his secretary $200 daily for a total of $400. If he trades with her, he will come out with $2,000-$400=$1,600, an appreciable gain for him.

So is there any economic case for tariffs, given the foregoing? Yes, paradoxically, there is—in a way, if the alternative is a tax that’s even worse.

 

{snip}

 

 

Mr. Block concludes:

To put it another way, if we accept that there has to be a government, and it therefore needs some revenue to function, this might be the least-bad option.

Should we worry about so many people becoming unemployed? Not at all. A similar sort of thing occurred when the car replaced the horse and buggy, when the cell phone substituted for Kodak, when we switched from typewriters to computers, etc. We are all the richer for this sort of thing, and will be in this case too.

 

 

 

https://redstate.com/wardclark/2025/04/02/an-economists-take-on-tariffs-they-may-be-bad-but-income-taxes-are-worse-n2187432

Posted
2 minutes ago, B-Man said:

39d666c1-2f86-4480-a318-eeb2afa34b16-536

 

An Economist's Take on Tariffs: They May Be Bad, but Income Taxes Are Worse

Ward Clark

 

Walter Edward Block is an economist. He's not just any economist, either; he is a self-professed anarcho-capitalist, which term describes the free-est free traders that ever free traded. He holds the Harold E. Wirth Eminent Scholar Endowed Chair in Economics at the J. A. Butt School of Business at Loyola University/New Orleans, and he is a member of the Faculty Network of the Foundation for Economic Education. So, he has been around the economic block a few times.

 

He's not a fan of tariffs, as you might expect from an anarcho-capitalist after the manner of Ludwig von Mises. But as it happens, he's even less of a fan of the income tax and reckons that tariffs may be the lesser of two evils:

 

...when it comes to comparative advantage, all too many people are out to lunch insofar as the teachings of Economics 101 are concerned. They fear that other countries might be more efficient than we are; with free trade, they would produce everything, we, nothing, and we would all starve to death from massive unemployment.

To dispel this myth, let’s consider a thought experiment. A lawyer is as good a typist as his secretary. He can produce $1,000 per day by practicing his profession. But for every such day, he needs a certain amount of typing. He can produce $200 worth each day. In two days, he can thus earn $1200 on his own. If he hires a typist, he can earn $2,000 from lawyering in two days, but must pay his secretary $200 daily for a total of $400. If he trades with her, he will come out with $2,000-$400=$1,600, an appreciable gain for him.

So is there any economic case for tariffs, given the foregoing? Yes, paradoxically, there is—in a way, if the alternative is a tax that’s even worse.

 

{snip}

 

 

Mr. Block concludes:

To put it another way, if we accept that there has to be a government, and it therefore needs some revenue to function, this might be the least-bad option.

Should we worry about so many people becoming unemployed? Not at all. A similar sort of thing occurred when the car replaced the horse and buggy, when the cell phone substituted for Kodak, when we switched from typewriters to computers, etc. We are all the richer for this sort of thing, and will be in this case too.

 

 

 

https://redstate.com/wardclark/2025/04/02/an-economists-take-on-tariffs-they-may-be-bad-but-income-taxes-are-worse-n2187432


Never change old man.  

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