The Bills will be better in 2024 and everyone overreacted

[ngbills]

6 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

Still got Tua right ?

Yes the same Tua that threw for 4600 yards. You could do a lot worse than Tua. With his weapons he just has to get rid of the ball. A healthy and better OL will help them. 

[Dillenger4]

2 hours ago, Success said:

 

It's not wrong to be cautious, but I haven't heard too many here say we'll struggle for a WC spot.

 

The AFC East simply isn't that good of a division.  Miami is our biggest competition, and they have lost as much as we have this offseason, if not more.  The Jets w/ Rodgers might be somewhat tough, but I don't see them taking the division.

 

As long as Allen stays healthy, I think the division title is more or less a given.

 

Miami "lost" some players yes, but they have had a strong FA so far. They went after good players and secured studs.

 

[Aussie Joe]

4 minutes ago, ngbills said:

Yes the same Tua that threw for 4600 yards. You could do a lot worse than Tua. With his weapons he just has to get rid of the ball. A healthy and better OL will help them. 

I will respect Tua more when he starts consistently beating the Bills…

 

 

 

[Sweats]

9 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said:

Miami "lost" some players yes, but they have had a strong FA so far. They went after good players and secured studs.

 

 

 

 

 

Poyer and Siran are studs now?!?

Poyer has lost a step, has seen better days and can barely keep healthy....and Siran?......well, i don't know how he still has a job.

 

I have no idea how these guys are studs.

 

#wtfconfused

[27yanks]

Proposed trade with Arizona

BUF: Sends #1 2024/2025 + #2 2025 

Receives: 2024 35, 61, 70 90 from Ariz. 

Now go get your studs

[SoonerBillsFan]

This is a step back year.  Hopefully Beane can hit on picks 1 &2 again this year.  Maybe both 4ths as well

[QCity]

8 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

If you have a franchise QB for 3 contracts you normally need to do two at least two mini-retools in that period. It doesn't have to stop you competing - and I think the Bills will win the division and make the playoffs again next year - but it does mean in the midst of that re-tool that you have a year or two where you are treading water rather than getting better. 

 

This is pretty much spot-on. The fans that scream "ALL IN!!!!" every year don't know what that phrase means.

[ngbills]

1 hour ago, Sweats said:

 

 

 

 

Poyer and Siran are studs now?!?

Poyer has lost a step, has seen better days and can barely keep healthy....and Siran?......well, i don't know how he still has a job.

 

I have no idea how these guys are studs.

 

#wtfconfused

No but Fuller, Barrett, Brooks, Smith, Brewer, Poyer are all potential starers. Plus depth in Gallimore, Jones, Neal, Walker, Mack. They have done way more than us. 

[EasternOHBillsFan]

EVERYONE overreacted?

 

Lie.

 

I didn't... I was not one of "OMG OVER the cap!!! WOE IS US!!!" kind of people.

[ganesh]

January (and February if you are the Super Bowl Loser) is the month of overreaction.  Emotions are high and disappoint after a gruelling season is at its peak for 31 teams.

[transplantbillsfan]

14 hours ago, FireChans said:

that’s both true. However, you said that 5 or 6 of our drafts picks could be serious contributors in 2024. That’s very unlikely and a bad plan. If that happened, it’s probably the best draft in Bills history.

 

Developmental depth doesn’t make your team better than solid experienced vets. That’s why they are called “developmental.” Because they suck and you are trying to develop them into not sucking.

 

Ultimately, that is the fatal flaw in your premise. Yes, the Bills need to and will get much younger. That’s exciting. However this will make them a worse team in 2024. Probably not by much, but unless they have an unbelievable draft class, it’s pretty much guaranteed to be worse. 

 

Serious contributor doesn't mean they have to start. Buffalo rotates its DL a ton so you're probably going to expect a rookie DE and rookie DT. That's 2. Then it'll be a rookie WR. That's 3. Rookie short yardage RB to round our the trio. That's 4. Maybe a rookie Safety would be 4.

 

So that would be 2 starters and 3 guys who are "depth" but serious contributors.

 

And totally disagree this roster is guaranteed to be worse. With the Samuel signing now our WR corps is already better. And we'll still get one of those early.

 

14 hours ago, FireChans said:

Sherfield dropped gigantic passes in our playoff loss to KC. He’s a bum, so what do you expect, but he played a large role in the loss. 
 

anyway, Gabe signed a big deal and I don’t think Trent is on a team, so it sounds like no NFL team was slavering over his 1 seven yard reception in the postseason. 

 

Wow, Gabe got signed by the Jacksonville Jaguars. 

 

You're right... that's a stellar organization with a long history of great decision, making he got signed by. We made a mistake letting him go 

[transplantbillsfan]

14 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Why do you feel you have special insight that the entirety of "national media" doesn't have?

 

Why is the fact that the Bills have inexperienced young/energetic (according to the "media"--would that be "the national media"? lol) a benefit? 

 

Elam made "a" big play.  Otherwise, it seems McD thinks little of this kid.  Milano tore his ACL and broke his leg.  What in your experience allows you to conclude that combination of injuries "does not linger"?

 

Honest question: do you ever listen to national sports media???

 

Wait, better question: do you pay attention to what the national sports media says about team rosters outside of the stars???

 

Do it from now on. They make so many mistakes so often that you can tell the wide, vast majority of them don't know much. Too many slip ups on things like play style, strengths and weaknesses of players that you'll almost miss if you aren't paying attention.

13 hours ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

The top team are improving and we are falling behind. If we even have just an average draft we will probably be rebuilding in 2025. McD look outmatched in the playoffs and is a few steps behind when making adjustments. 
 

If this year goes how I predict get ready for the media to say Josh Allen’s career is being wasted in Buffalo. 

[transplantbillsfan]

9 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

If they draft a rookie WR who will have 7 TDs and 750-800 and 1st downs on 75% of his catches that would be great.

 

But Davis was the best WR Beane has drafted. 

 

Nah, Shakir is already better.

 

And PLEASE don't spew out stats without context in disagreement 

[Nephilim17]

Concerned about safeties the most, and maybe center, but if we get a legit future #1 WR in the draft and maybe a DE that can contribute, IF we stay healthy I think we can equal or better last regular season.

[Mr. WEO]

7 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Nah, Shakir is already better.

 

And PLEASE don't spew out stats without context in disagreement 

 

What context do you want?  Davis put up that type of play for 3 of his 4 years.  You think a rookie will immediately replace that?  Shakir still hasn't. He might be, but he hasn't been yet.   You simply tossed out "Shakir is already better"....no context.

[GunnerBill]

Just now, Mr. WEO said:

 

What context do you want?  Davis put up that type of play for 3 of his 4 years.  You think a rookie will immediately replace that?  Shakir still hasn't. He might be, but he hasn't been yet.   You simply tossed out "Shakir is already better"....no context.

 

Shakir is already better than Davis is pretty out there as a take. There is less than a year between them in age and about 2,000 yards and 25 touchdowns in production.

[Mr. WEO]

Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

Shakir is already better than Davis is pretty out there as a take. There is less than a year between them in age and about 2,000 yards and 25 touchdowns in production.

 

the Davis takes over time, out of necessity (due to the hill his detractors insisted on dying on), grew consistently more "out there".

 

Pretty much all they had at the end was "but, but....catch%!!!"

[boyst]

no, we will not. even if the record is better we will not be better as a team. 2025 we have a chance. we are retooling a year too late.

[FireChans]

8 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Serious contributor doesn't mean they have to start. Buffalo rotates its DL a ton so you're probably going to expect a rookie DE and rookie DT. That's 2. Then it'll be a rookie WR. That's 3. Rookie short yardage RB to round our the trio. That's 4. Maybe a rookie Safety would be 4.

 

So that would be 2 starters and 3 guys who are "depth" but serious contributors.

 

And totally disagree this roster is guaranteed to be worse. With the Samuel signing now our WR corps is already better. And we'll still get one of those early.

 

 

Wow, Gabe got signed by the Jacksonville Jaguars. 

 

You're right... that's a stellar organization with a long history of great decision, making he got signed by. We made a mistake letting him go 

I mean, you could make the same kind of comments about the Bills organization. We have been a joke for about 20 years straight, and signed our own death warrant trading the Mahomes pick to an in conference team to torment us.

 

You’re saying maybe a rookie S. Who is playing FS in our system, if not a rookie S? Hamlin? That makes our S group very very very bad.

[Dillenger4]

18 hours ago, Sweats said:

 

 

 

 

Poyer and Siran are studs now?!?

Poyer has lost a step, has seen better days and can barely keep healthy....and Siran?......well, i don't know how he still has a job.

 

I have no idea how these guys are studs.

 

#wtfconfused

Open your eyes homeboy. Take a look at who else they secured this offseason FA. They got some top players that were available and are noted as having the third strongest FA period along with JAX and the Texans.