Warriorspikes51 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 3 minutes ago, Chaos said: Trust the Process: There is a better chance we land Harrison Jr than those first 4 picks happening! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Open Try-outs Draft: 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 5 hours ago, HaldimandBills said: Playing around with the different mock draft simulators and I dont think its unreasonable to trade up in the 2nd round if we find a few recievers are slipping out of the 1st round. Using this method I have a few times ended up with the ability to draft two receivers from the following group. Xavier Worthy Adonai Mitchell Xaiver Legette Keon Coleman Ladd McConkey Troy Franklin Ja'Lynn Polk In fact in every mock draft I've ended up with two of these guys by picking at # 28 and trading into the top 40 using our # 60 and 133 pick and a 2nd next year. Obviously mock draft simulators isn't reality but I see a world where the Bills could double dip on two of these guys. And while it might make heads explode with those 6 WRs all available at 28, We could trade down and still get 2! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Post trade draft 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 (edited) Fanspeak, CBS Sports- Josh Edwards BB. Speed kills right. Made the trade to secure Legettes. Trade Partner: Cleveland Browns Sent: Round 2 Pick 28 Round 4 Pick 28 Round 5 Pick 25 Received: Round 2 Pick 22 28: R1 P28 WR Adonai Mitchell - Texas 54: R2 P22 WR Xavier Legette - South Carolina 133: R4 P33 S Cole Bishop - Utah 144: R5 P9 WR Roman Wilson - Michigan 163: R5 P28 RB Jaylen Wright - Tennessee 196: R6 P20 DL Khristian Boyd - Northern Iiowa 200: R6 P24 TE Tip Reiman - Illinois 248: R7 P28 LB Jalyx Hunt - Houston Christian Edited April 5 by ScorpionZero 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 First crack at a post-Diggs draft which means the Bills are drafting at least 2 WRs... maybe even 3. Let's go. *** trade *** From BUF: #28 To BUF: #35, #71, #226 Why: Arizona moves up for Bo Nix offering 2024 capital which we really need. With Mitchell, Thomas and McConkey still on the board, we're gambling one lasts to 35. If Beane loves one he takes him here probably, but 71 is right in a golden zone in this draft to fill roster holes with '24 contributors. PICK: 35 RND: 2 (BUF) Adonai MITCHELL WR Texas And one does make to to #35. Phew. *** trade *** From BUF: #60 To BUF: #67, #100, 2025 7th Why: There's a lot to choose from here at premium positions like Edge (Solomon, Kamara) and Tackle (Sumaiata, Amegadjie). The draft really seems to fall off around 100 to 110 so adding a pick in that range could pay off big. PICK: 67 RND: 3 (BUF) Kingsley SUAMATAIA OT BYU The Mailata contract (and the Jason Peters history) shows the value of a freak athlete at tackle. Insurance against loss of Brown in '25, and entering as a Sophomore at age 21 gives him a lot of runway for devlopment. PICK: 71 RND: 3 (BUF) Ricky PEARSALL WR Florida Mitchell is the X with WR1 upside, this is a guy to help Shakir take up Diggs slack as a chain-mover. Could have gone for Devontez Walker here to bring in another X with WR1 potential, and maybe should have with Shakir and Samuel in the fold? Eh, whatever, I clicked it, I own it. PICK: 100 RND: 3 (BUF) Calen BULLOCK S USC Didn't expect this guy to be available at this spot. A rangy ball-hawk with room for physical development and an early declare as well, he ticks all the boxes for OBD at this point in the draft. PICK: 128 RND: 4 (BUF) Isaac GUERENDO RB Louisville Solomon and Kamara are still on the board (prefer Kamara) but the home run hitter at this point in the draft just can't be ignored. PICK: 134 RND: 4 (BUF) Jarrian JONES CB Florida State Baltimore takes Kamara because of course they do, but I got a guy I'm looking for in the 5th or 6th round at edge. We've talked in previous mocks about what a scheme-fit Jones seems to be, I keep coming back to him in this range. PICK: 144 RND: 5 (BUF) Mason MCCORMICK OT South Dakota State Super-athletic development prospect for IOL positions. PICK: 160 RND: 5 (BUF) Jordan JEFFERSON DT LSU Super-athletic development prospect for IDL positions. PICK: 163 RND: 5 (BUF) Myles COLE DE-EDGE Texas Tech Here's my guy. The first of the Texas Tech freaks, another Groot at 6'6" 278 and laying it down in sub-4.7. PICK: 200 RND: 6 (BUF) M.J. DEVONSHIRE CB Pittsburgh A late-round zone corner from Pitt? That trick always works. PICK: 204 RND: 6 (BUF) Curtis JACOBS LB Penn State Early entry from Linebacker U, at worst shoud be a core ST guy. PICK: 226 RND: 7 (BUF) Tyler OWENS S Texas Tech An absolute burner (4.3) with very limited college experience will need coached up, and that's what McDermott is for. PICK: 248 RND: 7 (BUF) Bub MEANS WR Pittsburgh Solid value here. A thick athlete at 6'1" 212 with long arms, big hands and elite short-area metrics, but will need to learn pro-style route running, which is why a Malachi Corley with a very similar physical profile goes in round 2 and not here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GunnerBill Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 15 hours ago, Chaos said: Open Try-outs Draft: If we drafted Jacksaint in round 4 I'd start a fire Beane thread instantly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 14 hours ago, Einstein's Dog said: And while it might make heads explode with those 6 WRs all available at 28, We could trade down and still get 2! I've come around to this kind of thinking. If it was a draft where there were maybe 5 guys who could a) contribute this year and b) with WR1 upside then the move up to get one makes sense. But it's the historic depth in this draft at WR that lets you take swings on Day 2 and Day 3 and some of those guys will be big time stars in this league. I'm feeling like this might be Beane's angle on it as well. After going through a couple mocks, the board keeps steering me in that direction, and picking up extra pick(s) in the 60-100 range is key to filling the losses of the cap reset now underway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 I'm not a Keon fan, but if he's there at 60, sure 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 10 minutes ago, Ralonzo said: First crack at a post-Diggs draft which means the Bills are drafting at least 2 WRs... maybe even 3. Let's go. *** trade *** From BUF: #28 To BUF: #35, #71, #226 Why: Arizona moves up for Bo Nix offering 2024 capital which we really need. With Mitchell, Thomas and McConkey still on the board, we're gambling one lasts to 35. If Beane loves one he takes him here probably, but 71 is right in a golden zone in this draft to fill roster holes with '24 contributors. PICK: 35 RND: 2 (BUF) Adonai MITCHELL WR Texas And one does make to to #35. Phew. *** trade *** From BUF: #60 To BUF: #67, #100, 2025 7th Why: There's a lot to choose from here at premium positions like Edge (Solomon, Kamara) and Tackle (Sumaiata, Amegadjie). The draft really seems to fall off around 100 to 110 so adding a pick in that range could pay off big. PICK: 67 RND: 3 (BUF) Kingsley SUAMATAIA OT BYU The Mailata contract (and the Jason Peters history) shows the value of a freak athlete at tackle. Insurance against loss of Brown in '25, and entering as a Sophomore at age 21 gives him a lot of runway for devlopment. PICK: 71 RND: 3 (BUF) Ricky PEARSALL WR Florida Mitchell is the X with WR1 upside, this is a guy to help Shakir take up Diggs slack as a chain-mover. Could have gone for Devontez Walker here to bring in another X with WR1 potential, and maybe should have with Shakir and Samuel in the fold? Eh, whatever, I clicked it, I own it. PICK: 100 RND: 3 (BUF) Calen BULLOCK S USC Didn't expect this guy to be available at this spot. A rangy ball-hawk with room for physical development and an early declare as well, he ticks all the boxes for OBD at this point in the draft. PICK: 128 RND: 4 (BUF) Isaac GUERENDO RB Louisville Solomon and Kamara are still on the board (prefer Kamara) but the home run hitter at this point in the draft just can't be ignored. PICK: 134 RND: 4 (BUF) Jarrian JONES CB Florida State Baltimore takes Kamara because of course they do, but I got a guy I'm looking for in the 5th or 6th round at edge. We've talked in previous mocks about what a scheme-fit Jones seems to be, I keep coming back to him in this range. PICK: 144 RND: 5 (BUF) Mason MCCORMICK OT South Dakota State Super-athletic development prospect for IOL positions. PICK: 160 RND: 5 (BUF) Jordan JEFFERSON DT LSU Super-athletic development prospect for IDL positions. PICK: 163 RND: 5 (BUF) Myles COLE DE-EDGE Texas Tech Here's my guy. The first of the Texas Tech freaks, another Groot at 6'6" 278 and laying it down in sub-4.7. PICK: 200 RND: 6 (BUF) M.J. DEVONSHIRE CB Pittsburgh A late-round zone corner from Pitt? That trick always works. PICK: 204 RND: 6 (BUF) Curtis JACOBS LB Penn State Early entry from Linebacker U, at worst shoud be a core ST guy. PICK: 226 RND: 7 (BUF) Tyler OWENS S Texas Tech An absolute burner (4.3) with very limited college experience will need coached up, and that's what McDermott is for. PICK: 248 RND: 7 (BUF) Bub MEANS WR Pittsburgh Solid value here. A thick athlete at 6'1" 212 with long arms, big hands and elite short-area metrics, but will need to learn pro-style route running, which is why a Malachi Corley with a very similar physical profile goes in round 2 and not here. I think if Thomas is there at #28 you HAVE to take him. Trading back would not be for me in that scenario.... but if we pretend for a moment you'd never told us he was there..... then the trades back from #28 and #60 and then your first 5 player selections would be very much a win for me. I'm more mixed on your later round guys but they are shots in the dark to an extent anyway. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 12 hours ago, ScorpionZero said: Fanspeak, CBS Sports- Josh Edwards BB. Speed kills right. Made the trade to secure Legettes. Trade Partner: Cleveland Browns Sent: Round 2 Pick 28 Round 4 Pick 28 Round 5 Pick 25 Received: Round 2 Pick 22 28: R1 P28 WR Adonai Mitchell - Texas 54: R2 P22 WR Xavier Legette - South Carolina 133: R4 P33 S Cole Bishop - Utah 144: R5 P9 WR Roman Wilson - Michigan 163: R5 P28 RB Jaylen Wright - Tennessee 196: R6 P20 DL Khristian Boyd - Northern Iiowa 200: R6 P24 TE Tip Reiman - Illinois 248: R7 P28 LB Jalyx Hunt - Houston Christian I just don't see Legette still being there even at 54, let alone 60. But you know this already! LOL carry on. I see him gone by early 40's at the very latest. Same odds with Wilson at 144. Would of course love this outcome though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I think if Thomas is there at #28 you HAVE to take him. Trading back would not be for me in that scenario.... but if we pretend for a moment you'd never told us he was there..... then the trades back from #28 and #60 and then your first 5 player selections would be very much a win for me. I'm more mixed on your later round guys but they are shots in the dark to an extent anyway. Yeah, it's a tough call, but while Thomas has been rocketing up it's really one year of production - although being that productive with Nabers on the other side is not nothing. For me it's not a lead pipe cinch that he'd be so much better than Conk or Mitchell. If your review of tape indicates that, then I'll accept that, I'm sure I haven't watched nearly as much. The later round guys I'm looking for undervalued athletes with traits. And guys who show up in the "best available" menu on the mock draft site lol. There's a few different ways to go as you said, like Bortolini over McCormick but he's more of a dancer than the Kromer vision of nasty maulers. TBH the Washington kid at T (Rosengarten?) had also dropped into that range but I'm happy with Van Demark at swing and just had Sumaiata fall into my lap so where does he make the roster? I'm tantalized by the Tech guys metrics, if they can be had where they are gotten in this mock. The one guy on Day 3 who wasn't that traitsy profile was the FSU CB Jones, who iirc you were also looking at in this range? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 7 minutes ago, Ralonzo said: Yeah, it's a tough call, but while Thomas has been rocketing up it's really one year of production - although being that productive with Nabers on the other side is not nothing. For me it's not a lead pipe cinch that he'd be so much better than Conk or Mitchell. If your review of tape indicates that, then I'll accept that, I'm sure I haven't watched nearly as much. The later round guys I'm looking for undervalued athletes with traits. And guys who show up in the "best available" menu on the mock draft site lol. There's a few different ways to go as you said, like Bortolini over McCormick but he's more of a dancer than the Kromer vision of nasty maulers. TBH the Washington kid at T (Rosengarten?) had also dropped into that range but I'm happy with Van Demark at swing and just had Sumaiata fall into my lap so where does he make the roster? I'm tantalized by the Tech guys metrics, if they can be had where they are gotten in this mock. The one guy on Day 3 who wasn't that traitsy profile was the FSU CB Jones, who iirc you were also looking at in this range? I like McCormick too. The Jones I was looking at was Elijah from BC but I'm not totally sold on him as a Bills fit. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 (edited) 28 Xavier Worthy WR | Texas 41 Xavier Legette WR | South Carolina TRADE (#60 + 2025 3rd) 128 Mason McCormick IOL | South Dakota State 133 Beaux Limmer IOL | Arkansas 144 DeWayne Carter DL | Duke 160 Malik Mustapha S | Wake Forest 163 Jaylin Simpson CB | Auburn 200 Edefuan Ulofoshio LB | Washington 204 Tanor Bortolini IOL | Wisconsin 248 Garret Greenfield OL | South Dakota State Edited April 5 by Victory Formation 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 I think there is a decent change, 2024 is being viewed as a throway by the Bills. Bills can win the division on Allen's talent, plus the current offensive roster as well. I will not be shocked if the Bills trade down/out of 28 and 60 to load up in 2025. Something like this maybe: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Traded next year's 1st and 2nd and some of this year's for 29. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 (edited) Traded down and back up along with trading for 33. 31 Xavier Worthy WR | Texas TRADE 33 Troy Franklin WR | Oregon TRADE 66 Devontez Walker WR | North Carolina TRADE 75 Cole Bishop S | Utah TRADE 94 Calen Bullock S | USC TRADE 101 Dominick Puni IOL | Kansas TRADE 124 Braelon Allen RB | Wisconsin TRADE 141 Javon Solomon EDGE | Troy TRADE 142 Nehemiah Pritchett CB | Auburn TRADE 186 Tip Reiman TE | Illinois Edited April 5 by ScorpionZero 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 I would love this outcome 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Hey wtf is this trade offer? I'm flabbergasted. Man I hate the Chiefs 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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