SinceThe70s Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: A playoff game for FSU would have been equally pointless. Quite likely. But imo FSU earned the chance. Otherwise, why bother playing regular season games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 12 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said: Quite likely. But imo FSU earned the chance. Otherwise, why bother playing regular season games? It's about putting in the best four teams come January... Not November They don't have the dogs to replace their star quarterbacks injury so they are not a top 4 team 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 2 hours ago, Bill from NYC said: A playoff game for FSU would have been equally pointless. What you’re essentially saying is that FSUs entire season was pointless. You realize that, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: It's about putting in the best four teams come January... Not November They don't have the dogs to replace their star quarterbacks injury so they are not a top 4 team Of all the excuses to exclude FSU this is the weakest imo. It flies in the face of actual competition and what FSU accomplished on the field. If one of the remaining top 4 teams loses their star QB a minute into their next game should we deem them unworthy and force them to forfeit the game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said: Of all the excuses to exclude FSU this is the weakest imo. It flies in the face of actual competition and what FSU accomplished on the field. If one of the remaining top 4 teams loses their star QB a minute into their next game should we deem them unworthy and force them to forfeit the game? It depends who is next up... This is college football in the 21st century They know every backup and rising star... We know how many stars are attached to the backups.. how they have looked In limited action etc If you are scoring 35 a game and lose your QB and still score 28 a game ... Sure ... The team hasn't lost much ... If you start scoring 20 a game... It's not enough ... They didn't do enough vs Louisville Edited December 31, 2023 by Buffalo716 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: It depends who is next up... This is college football in the 21st century They know every backup and rising star... We know how many stars are attached to the backups.. how they have looked In limited action etc If you are scoring 35 a game and lose your QB and still score 28 a game ... Sure ... The team hasn't lost much ... If you start scoring 18 a game... It's not enough So it's more about what folks think will happen next rather than what actually happened on the field. Brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said: So it's more about what folks think will happen next rather than what actually happened on the field. Brilliant. They couldn't break 21 vs Louisville and he didn't throw a TD vs Florida with under 200 yards It's not enough to beat Texas or bama or Michigan etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: They couldn't break 21 vs Louisville and he didn't throw a TD vs Florida with under 200 yards It's not enough to beat Texas or bama or Michigan etc While I understand your point of view, I'm completely unswayed. And while I don't expect to sway your opinion, I'll restate mine in a different way. The undefeated FSU team earned the right to be in the FCS championship - even given the very real possibility that they 'might' not play a competitive game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said: While I understand your point of view, I'm completely unswayed. And while I don't expect to sway your opinion, I'll restate mine in a different way. The undefeated FSU team earned the right to be in the FCS championship - even given the very real possibility that they 'might' not play a competitive game. FBS* And I understand your point 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 8 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: It depends who is next up... This is college football in the 21st century They know every backup and rising star... We know how many stars are attached to the backups.. how they have looked In limited action etc If you are scoring 35 a game and lose your QB and still score 28 a game ... Sure ... The team hasn't lost much ... If you start scoring 20 a game... It's not enough ... They didn't do enough vs Louisville A little different angle at this not related to FSU, but to their QB: This is the era of NIL where college players can make their own money. We can argue whether or not FSU should be in and argue why. We can give any reason for our argument because we’re not on the committee. The committee can do whatever they want/whatever favors Alabama every time because that is their role. But if they were smart they should keep their discussions secret. This year, some of them actually spoke in public about FSU’s QB being weak. That kid should sue the ever loving crap out of the committee. Not to get into the playoffs, but to make $$$$$$$$$$. They publicly scapegoated him. He wasn’t even going to play, the second string guy was coming back so it wasn’t even a valid point at all. I’m sure most of his teammates had his back but all!? He can EASILY find a lawyer to say that not only was he stripped of an opportunity but he was slandered and his income potential suffered greatly and unfairly He would have an actual point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 11 hours ago, SinceThe70s said: Quite likely. But imo FSU earned the chance. Otherwise, why bother playing regular season games? I don't quite agree with you but I do understand and respect your opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 49 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: I don't quite agree with you but I do understand and respect your opinion. Thanks. It's an interesting discussion - and I respect the opposing viewpoint as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 4 hours ago, 4merper4mer said: A little different angle at this not related to FSU, but to their QB: This is the era of NIL where college players can make their own money. We can argue whether or not FSU should be in and argue why. We can give any reason for our argument because we’re not on the committee. The committee can do whatever they want/whatever favors Alabama every time because that is their role. But if they were smart they should keep their discussions secret. This year, some of them actually spoke in public about FSU’s QB being weak. That kid should sue the ever loving crap out of the committee. Not to get into the playoffs, but to make $$$$$$$$$$. They publicly scapegoated him. He wasn’t even going to play, the second string guy was coming back so it wasn’t even a valid point at all. I’m sure most of his teammates had his back but all!? He can EASILY find a lawyer to say that not only was he stripped of an opportunity but he was slandered and his income potential suffered greatly and unfairly He would have an actual point. Grown man s******* on any amateur athlete is low brow I'm sure he's a great kid and does nothing but work his butt off... And being the scapegoat is not a fun feeling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetkings01 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Bama proved with that kid at QB they should’ve never been in the playoffs. If not for a Michigan muffed punt and some mental lapse on offense they should’ve blown Bama out! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jukester Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Michigan (14-0) vs Washington (14-0) -Michigan -5 -Over/Under 56 GO BLUE!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co_springs_billsfan Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 17 minutes ago, Jukester said: Michigan (14-0) vs Washington (14-0) -Michigan -5 -Over/Under 56 GO BLUE!! Go Blue!!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jukester Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Great start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co_springs_billsfan Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Feels like Michigan is gonna need McCarthy to add something positive in order to pull this out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talley56 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Any thoughts on the actual crowd ratio between Washington and Michigan? Sounds like 90% Michigan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 I'm not a big follower of college ball but I heard of Penix and Odunze. So far I'm not impressed with either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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