sherpa Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 11 minutes ago, Justice said: Can you expand on this? I know I can look it up for myself so I understand if you don’t want to. Are we buying our own weapons and giving it to them with that money? If that’s the case that’s not good either. Yep. They request the aid. In most cases it's for very specific items. The headline number is total $, but that is mostly poured into buying US weapons, made in the US by US workers. You know, the weapons that actually work. Not all, but most of the aid is thus directed., and it is good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 (edited) 1 hour ago, sherpa said: Yep. They request the aid. In most cases it's for very specific items. The headline number is total $, but that is mostly poured into buying US weapons, made in the US by US workers. You know, the weapons that actually work. Not all, but most of the aid is thus directed., and it is good. I guess we disagree on that then. Money is money. It’s spent. It’s gone. It’s not being used on us. That money could’ve been used elsewhere and it still would have remained here. You can’t sugarcoat $95b when our infrastructure needs work, the borders, healthcare, housing costs, inflation, etc Those weapons have to be replaced, too. And I bet those weapons are overpriced too. Good for the weapons manufacturers and their stock holders. F the average joe. Edited April 26 by Justice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 hour ago, Justice said: I guess we disagree on that then. Money is money. It’s spent. It’s gone. It’s not being used on us. That money could’ve been used elsewhere and it still would have remained here. You can’t sugarcoat $95b when our infrastructure needs work, the borders, healthcare, housing costs, inflation, etc Those weapons have to be replaced, too. And I bet those weapons are overpriced too. Good for the weapons manufacturers and their stock holders. F the average joe. It is being used, largely, on "us," and the "average joe" is involved in that production. Purchasing weapons, or any other US produced commodity does not result in a check to stock holders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 On 4/25/2024 at 5:52 PM, Justice said: What I can’t hate a government and their policies? Really? Come on!! See here we go again with that BS. Who did I hate? Tell me? Because it isn’t the Jewish people that I hate. It isn’t Israelis that I hate. Who? Tell me. I’d love to hear it. I mean just read your posts in this thread, bro. You are not helping your cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tenhigh said: I mean just read your posts in this thread, bro. You are not helping your cause. Your mind has been made. Nothing I can do about to change it. I will say this though if the roles were reversed you wouldn’t be nearly as understanding as I am. I’ve stated several times I don’t mind a one state solution and that one state can be called Israel. I have recognized their right to exist. I have condemned Oct 7th. I have condemned Hamas. I appreciate all the fine Jewish people out there that are standing side by side with those of us that crave peace and equality. I’ve said all that several times here. My father and mother left after the war in 67 and weren’t allowed to be citizens of the place they grew up in. They needed a visa to enter a country they were raised in! Let that sink in! Would you be as understanding and sympathetic if the roles were reversed? Edited April 27 by Justice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 6 hours ago, Justice said: Your mind has been made. Nothing I can do about to change it. I will say this though if the roles were reversed you wouldn’t be nearly as understanding as I am. I’ve stated several times I don’t mind a one state solution and that one state can be called Israel. I have recognized their right to exist. I have condemned Oct 7th. I have condemned Hamas. I appreciate all the fine Jewish people out there that are standing side by side with those of us that crave peace and equality. I’ve said all that several times here. My father and mother left after the war in 67 and weren’t allowed to be citizens of the place they grew up in. They needed a visa to enter a country they were raised in! Let that sink in! Would you be as understanding and sympathetic if the roles were reversed? One nuke. Ka-Pow. Situation resolved. No more Hamas. What a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Doc Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 34 minutes ago, Tiberius said: When did they issue arrest warrants for senior Hamas leaders? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 28 Author Share Posted April 28 7 minutes ago, Doc said: When did they issue arrest warrants for senior Hamas leaders? Kind of complicated. https://globalaffairs.org/bluemarble/who-could-be-criminally-charged-because-israel-hamas-war Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 30 Author Share Posted April 30 Israel is admitting that many of the hostages are dead. They held up negotiations over numbers obviously knowing that their brutal campaign into Gaza was going to kill hostages. It is what it is 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 What is needed is Inglorious Basterds in Gaza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 I'm shocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sherpa Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 2 hours ago, B-Man said: I'm shocked. I've been following details of this since the thing was an idea. The "dock" is completely unprotected, so any weather of any serious consequence is going to stop the operation. Think WWII Normandy, but worse. The vessels being used are quite small, so any serious weather is going to require them to be hoisted until it passes. Regarding other news on this front, Eisenhower has now left the Red Sea and is in the Med, meaning there is no carrier to threaten the Houthis. I would say that objectively, Operation Prosperity Guardian has been a mission failure. Traffic through the Red Sea is at 50% of previous levels, and is largely Russian an other unfriendly stuff. There have been 50 attacks on shipping that have been successfully defended, one sinking of a commercial ship and one taken over. The joint forces have been incredibly productive, but the political will to end the threat has not, so it lives on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tenhigh Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 11 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said: I am tempted to order a Katz's Deli catering truck to go feed these morons and see them eat a delicious irony sammich. Plus you could get a picture of their faces when their masks are down to ensure appropriate employment opportunities in the future. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 In the words of Kreese from "The Karate Kid" - NO MERCY!! Keep that foot on Hamas's throat!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 President Trump Delivers a Painfully Honest Statement About Israeli Hostages and Hamas What President Trump said this morning about the Israeli hostages held by Hamas is brutally honest and true. It is always difficult to tell the hard thing to those who need to pretend not to know the truth. However, one of the great benefits of President Trump’s leadership both domestically and on the global stage is his willingness to say the honest thing consistently. The way this statement is truthfully worded is a pattern of linguistic assembly exclusive to President Donald Trump. Powerful, remarkable and brutally honest https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/04/29/president-trump-delivers-a-painfully-honest-statement-about-israeli-hostages-and-hamas/ . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 48 minutes ago, SydneyBillsFan said: In the words of Kreese from "The Karate Kid" - NO MERCY!! Keep that foot on Hamas's throat!! How can you sweep the leg with your foot on his throat? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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