GoBills808 Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Talk about the ball not bouncing your way. He literally has more turnovers than turnover worthy plays. every single throw that could have been picked off has iirc, and a couple that shouldn't have been picked have as well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: every single throw that could have been picked off has iirc, and a couple that shouldn't have been picked have as well That INT in the last game should never happen. After the tip, just tackle everyone. It's like the entire Bills team just stared at the ball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 Just now, FrenchConnection said: That INT in the last game should never happen. After the tip, just tackle everyone. It's like the entire Bills team just stared at the ball. Deep INT targeting Diggs as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Mahomes with a lost fumble and both him and Tua had pretty pedestrian days. Stroud had an insane game, and might be in the conversation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 hour ago, DapperCam said: Mahomes with a lost fumble and both him and Tua had pretty pedestrian days. Stroud had an insane game, and might be in the conversation. would love to see Stroud in the conversation for MVP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Up or down this week guys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) Josh is now +2000 on Caesar's and has fallen behind a running back (CMC). Is he still "crushing it"? Maybe it's time for some to admit that their perspective of this team is very distant from reality. Edited November 6, 2023 by QCity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted November 6, 2023 Author Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 hour ago, QCity said: Josh is now +2000 on Caesar's and has fallen behind a running back (CMC). Is he still "crushing it"? Maybe it's time for some to admit that their perspective of this team is very distant from reality. I don't know... but by the very definition of it, Josh Allen is the MVP of this team, that's for sure. As for everything else... Josh ain't winning the MVP race at this point, but I don't really think it's on him. As long as Dorsey is our OC, this team will be too inconsistent offensively. Allen is still having a really good season, overall, though. 4th in passing yards 2nd in Completion % 1st in TDs etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 40 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: I don't know... but by the very definition of it, Josh Allen is the MVP of this team, that's for sure. As for everything else... Josh ain't winning the MVP race at this point, but I don't really think it's on him. As long as Dorsey is our OC, this team will be too inconsistent offensively. Allen is still having a really good season, overall, though. 4th in passing yards 2nd in Completion % 1st in TDs etc. While all that is great stats, a lot of that was from beat downs of Washington, Miami and Vegas. Since then they aren't the same. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted November 6, 2023 Author Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Jrb1979 said: While all that is great stats, a lot of that was from beat downs of Washington, Miami and Vegas. Since then they aren't the same. Really? Outside of that first game against the Jets, Allen has been pretty consistent, actually. If you really want to play the "let's exclude these games because..." game (which is silly... those 3 games you mentioned are 1/3rd of the season), then let's throw in the Jets game to exclude. In the 5 games since the Miami game, Josh has averaged 300 yards per game, had a 71.7% completion %, 13 TDs and 6 turnovers. A lot of Mahomes's stats are from beatdowns against the Chargers and Bears. Those games aren't remotely the same as the rest of his season. And so it all goes back to #QBwinz. Buffalo needs to start winning and win against good teams in the national spotlight. Yesterday was really Allen's first chance to do that. He and the team failed. Still has more chances, but I don't have faith with our current OC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 think this thread can be safely stuck into bed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCDAWG Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 On 10/8/2023 at 9:32 PM, Turbo44 said: Did you watch the fkn game? He had 5 drives stopped by dropped passes and on his int Diggs was out fought for the ball. 27-40 359 tds passing 3 total tds. His receivers let him down as did his OC and asclown referees. Blame should go around but to call Josh disenchanted is plain stupid How we feeling now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Thurman#1 Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 On 11/7/2023 at 6:03 AM, Pine Barrens Mafia said: think this thread can be safely stuck into bed Heh. Yeah. Problems in his situation and problems in his play. He'll come back. I'm not worried in the long-term. But short-term, yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Just now, Thurman#1 said: Heh. Yeah. Problems in his situation and problems in his play. He'll come back. I'm not worried in the long-term. But short-term, yup. If Allen has problems in his play, then all the other QBs around the league have similar or worse problems. Allen has 1 more pick than Hurts and Mahomes, but he has more passing TDs than both. He also has a higher passer rating than Hurts and Mahomes (the top MVP odds). All of the top QBs this year are turning it over a lot, not just Allen. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 I don't give 2 ***** about advanced metrics. They are sometimes meaningless, they lie. The Bills can't score and can't take the ball away. That's all you need to know about these frauds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted November 8, 2023 Author Share Posted November 8, 2023 10 minutes ago, DapperCam said: If Allen has problems in his play, then all the other QBs around the league have similar or worse problems. Allen has 1 more pick than Hurts and Mahomes, but he has more passing TDs than both. He also has a higher passer rating than Hurts and Mahomes (the top MVP odds). All of the top QBs this year are turning it over a lot, not just Allen. Pretty much. It's weird the way Josh is being held to a different standard than the "frontrunners" right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 31 minutes ago, DapperCam said: If Allen has problems in his play, then all the other QBs around the league have similar or worse problems. Allen has 1 more pick than Hurts and Mahomes, but he has more passing TDs than both. He also has a higher passer rating than Hurts and Mahomes (the top MVP odds). All of the top QBs this year are turning it over a lot, not just Allen. Nah. That's just dumb. Burrow has similar or worse problems? Neither. Mahomes has similar or worse problems? Neither. It's dumb. Yes, they have problems. Nobody's perfect. But are they similar or worse than Josh's right now? The idea's plain dumb. There's a reason those other guys have the top MVP odds and Josh ... doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 36 minutes ago, DapperCam said: If Allen has problems in his play, then all the other QBs around the league have similar or worse problems. Allen has 1 more pick than Hurts and Mahomes, but he has more passing TDs than both. He also has a higher passer rating than Hurts and Mahomes (the top MVP odds). All of the top QBs this year are turning it over a lot, not just Allen. People don't watch any NFL other than Bills games 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: Nah. That's just dumb. Burrow has similar or worse problems? Neither. Mahomes has similar or worse problems? Neither. It's dumb. Yes, they have problems. Nobody's perfect. But are they similar or worse than Josh's right now? The idea's plain dumb. There's a reason those other guys have the top MVP odds and Josh ... doesn't. You aren’t making any sense. Allen is playing as well as those guys. You sound like you only watch Bills games. Let’s check out Mahomes the #1 odds for MVP this weekend. 20/30, 185 yards, 2 TDs and sack fumble that turned into a Dolphins TD. I would argue that is very similar, or possibly worse than Allen’s game vs the Bengals. And the Dolphins have a terrible defense. Edited November 8, 2023 by DapperCam 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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