JoPoy88 Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 16 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: His highest ranking to date. Though I think he's more like #2 or #3, 8th is not bad considering his injury and struggles in the 2nd half of the year. Still a little low for my tastes but definitely reasonable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fan in Chicago Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 I searched and couldnt find the top 10 list (perhaps because it aired today?). Diggs at #16 sounds fair A-a-ron Donald at #11 is low Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 The list is basically what QB went the furthest, Allen behind Mahomes, Hurts and Burrow. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: Still a little low for my tastes but definitely reasonable. I agree. But......at the same time he keeps coming out on fire in his first 6-7 games and then has a late October-November slump. 3 years in a row now. 2020 & 2022 were at least in large part due to injuries, but 2021 was a combo of his poor play, Beasley's sudden decline & very poor play by the offensive line(Which didn't improve until Bates became the starter in the 2nd Pats game in December) 8 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said: I searched and couldnt find the top 10 list (perhaps because it aired today?). Diggs at #16 sounds fair A-a-ron Donald at #11 is low Here's the top 6. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 10 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said: I searched and couldnt find the top 10 list (perhaps because it aired today?). Diggs at #16 sounds fair A-a-ron Donald at #11 is low someone will surely correct me if I am wrong but yeah I think they air it first on NFLN and then it gets posted everywhere. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 I’d can agree with Joey B since he did win the head to head but with all due respect Hurts isn’t in Josh Allen’s area code . He’s a good QB but he’s more like the 6 or 7 best QB then the number 2 QB. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, julian said: The list is basically what QB went the furthest, Allen behind Mahomes, Hurts and Burrow. And to further your point, Burrow behind Hurts & Mahomes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 1 minute ago, 78thealltimegreat said: I’d can agree with Joey B since he did win the head to head but with all due respect Hurts isn’t in Josh Allen’s area code . He’s a good QB but he’s more like the 6 or 7 best QB then the number 2 QB. As @julianjust mentioned, the top #4 QBs are landing in the order they finished the playoffs. Allen, Burrow, Hurts and lastly Mahomes. Allen exited the playoffs first then Burrow, then Hurts and of course Mahomes was/is the champ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: I’d can agree with Joey B since he did win the head to head but with all due respect Hurts isn’t in Josh Allen’s area code . He’s a good QB but he’s more like the 6 or 7 best QB then the number 2 QB. Agree for now about Hurts but if he continues to improve (he made an immense jump from ‘21 to ‘22) he won’t just be in the same area code they’ll be neighbors. Yes I concede Philly has built an excellent team around him but so does Allen doesn’t he? At least that’s what people tell me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 10 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: I’d can agree with Joey B since he did win the head to head but with all due respect Hurts isn’t in Josh Allen’s area code . He’s a good QB but he’s more like the 6 or 7 best QB then the number 2 QB. Laughable, honestly. Nobody would choose Hurts over Josh Allen or Joe Burrow if they had to choose a QB to build their team around. 5 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: Agree for now about Hurts but if he continues to improve (he made an immense jump from ‘21 to ‘22) he won’t just be in the same area code they’ll be neighbors. Yes I concede Philly has built an excellent team around him but so does Allen doesn’t he? At least that’s what people tell me. Yeah, but he has to prove that first. It took Josh Allen three years of elite play to get this kind of respect. I have no issue with Burrow being ranked ahead of him, but Hurts has one good year. He is way too high. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 10 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: Agree for now about Hurts but if he continues to improve (he made an immense jump from ‘21 to ‘22) he won’t just be in the same area code they’ll be neighbors. Yes I concede Philly has built an excellent team around him but so does Allen doesn’t he? At least that’s what people tell me. You want to really compare the Eagles Oline to The Bills Oline? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 1 minute ago, JoPoy88 said: Agree for now about Hurts but if he continues to improve (he made an immense jump from ‘21 to ‘22) he won’t just be in the same area code they’ll be neighbors. Yes I concede Philly has built an excellent team around him but so does Allen doesn’t he? At least that’s what people tell me. I think we see 2020 Allen this year and if we do Josh will be in a different area code than he's been in the last 2 years. He's got better weapons and better OL than he's had the last 2 years. If Josh doesn't have to play 4 games with a separated left shoulder he would've had a real shot at MVP that year. In the 4 games he was injured he had 4 Passing TDs & 4 INTs, in the other 12 games he had 33/6. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 Hurts shouldn’t be ahead of Burrow or Allen. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 Some were asking, so here's the full top 10. Just now, Doc Brown said: Hurts shouldn’t be ahead of Burrow or Allen. I definitely agree. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaenon Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: Some were asking, so here's the full top 10. I definitely agree. Kind of funny, but the guys voted #1 and #2 in all of the NFL by the players were drafted by the teams we traded our picks to in those drafts. Mahomes at #11 in 2017 and Jefferson at #22 in 2020....both the Bills draft spots, haha. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 18 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: You want to really compare the Eagles Oline to The Bills Oline? Wasn’t sure I was even doing that but go ahead. I think I was making a statement about the respective rosters overall (and the perceptions of each) but you tell me what I am thinking and doing so I can jot it down 🤡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Kaenon said: Kind of funny, but the guys voted #1 and #2 in all of the NFL by the players were drafted by the teams we traded our picks to in those drafts. Mahomes at #11 in 2017 and Jefferson at #22 in 2020....both the Bills draft spots, haha. That was my first thought too… hindsight is something but so is coaching situation. I don’t think Mahomes becomes who he is with the coaching Allen had his first few years; Daboll would have had him play well however. Certainly capable but was asked to do less with more where conversely Josh was asked to do more with less. Edited August 8, 2023 by BBFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 Hill ahead of Allen is rather obnoxious. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Hill ahead of Allen is rather obnoxious. also true. I mean, are current players qualified to judge their peers for something like this? Of course. Are they all completely impartial? Hell no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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