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55 minutes ago, ScorpionZero said:

27: R1 P27 OT Darnell Wright - Tennessee

59: R2 P28 LB Drew Sanders - Arkansas

91: R3 P28 TE Luke Schoonmaker - Michigan

130: R4 P28 RB Roschon Johnson - Texas

137: R5 P2 S Quan Martin - Illinois

205: R6 P28 WR Andrei Iosivas - Princeton

 

I notice you have a healthy mix of TE's in your mocks.  Wondering if you can tell me what you think of Dawson Knox.  I feel that a tall backup like Kuntz would be the best option for redzone and short yardage situations.  I don't have TE as a top draft need this year as I feel Knox has really improved this past season and has some more growth to do.  I don't feel like he's hit his ceiling yet.

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20 minutes ago, Yantha said:

 

I notice you have a healthy mix of TE's in your mocks.  Wondering if you can tell me what you think of Dawson Knox.  I feel that a tall backup like Kuntz would be the best option for redzone and short yardage situations.  I don't have TE as a top draft need this year as I feel Knox has really improved this past season and has some more growth to do.  I don't feel like he's hit his ceiling yet.

I don't know about blocking, so much as I'm never looking for a TE in the first 2 rounds. Which those who do both equally well catch and block are gone in the later rounds. 91 is the earliest I'd take Schoonmaker. I will say there's Davis Allen with our 204 would be something to think about he's tall, has great length, adjusts well to the ball in the air, ridiculous catch radius, and a vacuum for hands. As for blocking a few to many wiffs in open space and he's just kind of a get in the way blocker. Not to say all his blocking is bad just not a strength. Red zone target for sure.

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Here is one today from Pro Football Network: 

 

27.

Bryan Bresee

DT Clemson

 

59.

Joe Tippmann

OC Wisconsin

 

91.

Tyler Scott

WR Cincinnati

 

130.

Bryce Ford-Wheaton

WR West Virginia

 

137.

Jammie Robinson

S Florida State

 

205.

DeWayne McBride

RB UAB

 

Here is PFF: (what, behind a paywall now!) 

 

Here is Fanspeak, seems um, unrealistic: 

 

27: R1 P27 RB Bijan Robinson - Texas

59: R2 P28 OT Darnell Wright - Tennessee

91: R3 P28 S Jammie Robinson - Florida State

130: R4 P28 C John Michael Schmitz - Minnesota

137: R5 P2 S Sydney Brown - Illinois

205: R6 P28 WR Bryce Ford-Wheaton - West Virginia

 

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1 hour ago, RyanC883 said:

Here is one today from Pro Football Network: 

 

27.

Bryan Bresee

DT Clemson

 

59.

Joe Tippmann

OC Wisconsin

 

91.

Tyler Scott

WR Cincinnati

 

130.

Bryce Ford-Wheaton

WR West Virginia

 

137.

Jammie Robinson

S Florida State

 

205.

DeWayne McBride

RB UAB

 

Here is PFF: (what, behind a paywall now!) 

 

Here is Fanspeak, seems um, unrealistic: 

 

27: R1 P27 RB Bijan Robinson - Texas

59: R2 P28 OT Darnell Wright - Tennessee

91: R3 P28 S Jammie Robinson - Florida State

130: R4 P28 C John Michael Schmitz - Minnesota

137: R5 P2 S Sydney Brown - Illinois

205: R6 P28 WR Bryce Ford-Wheaton - West Virginia

 

Try using Steve Shoups big board, it looks like you used CBS's 

 

 

27.

Darnell Wright

OT Tennessee

59.

Antonio Johnson

S Texas A&M

91.

DeMarvion Overshown

LB Texas

130.

Luke Schoonmaker

TE Michigan

137.

Roschon Johnson

RB Texas

205.

Nick Herbig

EDGE Wisconsin

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Fanspeak, Jake Rigdon BB.

 

27: R1 P27 LB Jack Campbell - Iowa

59: R2 P28 C Joe Tippmann - Wisconsin

91: R3 P28 TE Tucker Kraft - South Dakota State

130: R4 P28 RB Roschon Johnson - Texas

137: R5 P2 S JL Skinner - Boise State

205: R6 P28 OT Kadeem Telfort - UAB

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I know this is a no trade post but I was redoing the draft over and over to see what it would take to get either Sanders or Campbell. This is how it worked out.

 

32.

Darnell Wright

OT Tennessee

49.

Drew Sanders

LB Arkansas

91.

Tyler Scott

WR Cincinnati

130.

Roschon Johnson

RB Texas

205.

Davis Allen

TE Clemson

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This is fanspeak using Steeler Nation BB.

 

27: R1 P27 WR Zay Flowers - Boston College

59: R2 P28 LB Drew Sanders - Arkansa

91: R3 P28 C Joe Tippmann - Wisconsin

130: R4 P28 S JL Skinner - Boise State

137: R5 P2 OT Nick Saldiveri - Old Dominion

205: R6 P28 TE Davis Allen - Clemson

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The draft network simulator is up and running, here it is. Although you won't be able to screen shot it or copy and paste.

 

27. Drew Sanders LB, Arkansas

59. Jalen Hyatt WR, Tennessee

91. Joe Tippmann OC, Wisconsin

130. Luke Schoonmaker TE, Michigan

137. JL Skinner SAF, Boise State

204. Nick Saldiveri OT, Old Dominion 

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I was wrong you can copy paste, with both Campbell and Simpson we could play true 4-3 more often than always being in the 4-2-5, giving us much better blitz options to confuse the offense. Of course Simpson would never be there at 91, but in this SIM he was.

 

28

Buffalo Bills

Dawand JonesOT, Ohio State

User Pick

Round 2

60

Buffalo Bills

Jack CampbellLB, Iowa

User Pick

Round 3

92

Buffalo Bills

Trenton SimpsonLB, Clemson

User Pick

Round 4

131

Buffalo Bills

Andrei IosivasWR, Princeton

User Pick

Round 5

139

Buffalo Bills

Zack KuntzTE, Old Dominion

User Pick

Round 6

207

Buffalo Bills

Riley MossCB, Iowa

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Fanspeak, Bengals BB.

 

27: R1 P27 OT Darnell Wright - Tennessee

59: R2 P28 LB Jack Campbell - Iowa

91: R3 P28 S JL Skinner - Boise State

130: R4 P28 RB Roschon Johnson - Texas

137: R5 P2 TE Davis Allen - Clemson

205: R6 P28 WR Bryce Ford-Wheaton - West Virginia

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15 hours ago, ScorpionZero said:

I was wrong you can copy paste, with both Campbell and Simpson we could play true 4-3 more often than always being in the 4-2-5, giving us much better blitz options to confuse the offense. Of course Simpson would never be there at 91, but in this SIM he was.

 

28

Buffalo Bills

Dawand JonesOT, Ohio State

User Pick

Round 2

60

Buffalo Bills

Jack CampbellLB, Iowa

User Pick

Round 3

92

Buffalo Bills

Trenton SimpsonLB, Clemson

User Pick

Round 4

131

Buffalo Bills

Andrei IosivasWR, Princeton

User Pick

Round 5

139

Buffalo Bills

Zack KuntzTE, Old Dominion

User Pick

Round 6

207

Buffalo Bills

Riley MossCB, Iowa


Beat I’ve seen so far 🏆 

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On 3/26/2023 at 7:48 PM, RyanC883 said:

Here is one today from Pro Football Network: 

 

27.

Bryan Bresee

DT Clemson

 

59.

Joe Tippmann

OC Wisconsin

 

91.

Tyler Scott

WR Cincinnati

 

130.

Bryce Ford-Wheaton

WR West Virginia

 

137.

Jammie Robinson

S Florida State

 

205.

DeWayne McBride

RB UAB

 

Here is PFF: (what, behind a paywall now!) 

 

Here is Fanspeak, seems um, unrealistic: 

 

27: R1 P27 RB Bijan Robinson - Texas

59: R2 P28 OT Darnell Wright - Tennessee

91: R3 P28 S Jammie Robinson - Florida State

130: R4 P28 C John Michael Schmitz - Minnesota

137: R5 P2 S Sydney Brown - Illinois

205: R6 P28 WR Bryce Ford-Wheaton - West Virginia

 

 

I think, just based on his traits, that they really like Breese. Tippman to me is the perfect developmental center who can sit for a year. 

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Probably too much Iowa:

 

27: R1 P27 EDGE Lukas Van Ness - Iowa

59: R2 P28 LB Jack Campbell - Iowa

91: R3 P28 WR Tyler Scott - Cincinnati

130: R4 P28 TE Sam LaPorta - Iowa

137: R5 P2 G McClendon Curtis - Chattanooga

205: R6 P28 WR Andrei Iosivas - Princeton

 

Unrealistic? 

27: R1 P27 LB Trenton Simpson - Clemson

59: R2 P28 TE Dalton Kincaid - Utah

91: R3 P28 C Joe Tippmann - Wisconsin

130: R4 P28 WR Marvin Mims - Oklahoma

137: R5 P2 CB Cameron Mitchell - Northwestern

205: R6 P28 DL Moro Ojomo - Texas

 

I like: 

27: R1 P27 EDGE Lukas Van Ness - Iowa

59: R2 P28 LB Drew Sanders - Arkansas

91: R3 P28 C Joe Tippmann - Wisconsin

130: R4 P28 WR Michael Wilson - Stanford

137: R5 P2 OT Tyler Steen - Alabama

205: R6 P28 S Brandon Joseph - Notre Dame

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Here is Pro Football Network today.  One of my favorites so far.  Get a day 1 starter at RT, another OT, and a C/G.  This provides depth this year, and a consistent core for the next 4 years or so.  Mingo is going to be a stud at WR, and Robinson and McBride have both been in Brooks' top 5 in their respective positions during his first 2 rankings.  McBride led college in yards after contact.  This draft also assumes LB Jack or someone else at LB in FA.  

 

27.

Darnell Wright

OT Tennessee

 

59.

Joe Tippmann

OC Wisconsin

 

91.

Matthew Bergeron

OT Syracuse

 

130.

Jonathan Mingo

WR Ole Miss

 

137.

Jammie Robinson

S Florida State

 

205.

DeWayne McBride

RB UAB

2 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:

Probably too much Iowa:

 

27: R1 P27 EDGE Lukas Van Ness - Iowa

59: R2 P28 LB Jack Campbell - Iowa

91: R3 P28 WR Tyler Scott - Cincinnati

130: R4 P28 TE Sam LaPorta - Iowa

137: R5 P2 G McClendon Curtis - Chattanooga

205: R6 P28 WR Andrei Iosivas - Princeton

 

Unrealistic? 

27: R1 P27 LB Trenton Simpson - Clemson

59: R2 P28 TE Dalton Kincaid - Utah

91: R3 P28 C Joe Tippmann - Wisconsin

130: R4 P28 WR Marvin Mims - Oklahoma

137: R5 P2 CB Cameron Mitchell - Northwestern

205: R6 P28 DL Moro Ojomo - Texas

 

I like: 

27: R1 P27 EDGE Lukas Van Ness - Iowa

59: R2 P28 LB Drew Sanders - Arkansas

91: R3 P28 C Joe Tippmann - Wisconsin

130: R4 P28 WR Michael Wilson - Stanford

137: R5 P2 OT Tyler Steen - Alabama

205: R6 P28 S Brandon Joseph - Notre Dame

 

Love the unrealistic one!   4 potential day 1 starters.  

 

The I like, Van Ness, and I could be wrong, seems to not have the production in college that lives up to his ability.  Am I wrong here?  Sanders also worries me a bit as a tweener who has not played a consistent on-ball, off-ball LB enough.  Flip side: great versatility.  Love 91-105 picks, steals.  

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1 hour ago, MrEpsYtown said:

Probably too much Iowa:

 

27: R1 P27 EDGE Lukas Van Ness - Iowa

59: R2 P28 LB Jack Campbell - Iowa

91: R3 P28 WR Tyler Scott - Cincinnati

130: R4 P28 TE Sam LaPorta - Iowa

137: R5 P2 G McClendon Curtis - Chattanooga

205: R6 P28 WR Andrei Iosivas - Princeton

 

Unrealistic? 

27: R1 P27 LB Trenton Simpson - Clemson

59: R2 P28 TE Dalton Kincaid - Utah

91: R3 P28 C Joe Tippmann - Wisconsin

130: R4 P28 WR Marvin Mims - Oklahoma

137: R5 P2 CB Cameron Mitchell - Northwestern

205: R6 P28 DL Moro Ojomo - Texas

 

I like: 

27: R1 P27 EDGE Lukas Van Ness - Iowa

59: R2 P28 LB Drew Sanders - Arkansas

91: R3 P28 C Joe Tippmann - Wisconsin

130: R4 P28 WR Michael Wilson - Stanford

137: R5 P2 OT Tyler Steen - Alabama

205: R6 P28 S Brandon Joseph - Notre Dame

I don’t know how to view Van Ness.  A first for a guy who wasn’t even a starter in college seems too high to me.  I also wonder if his primarily power pass rush will be effective against NFL OL.  Epenesa was a power rusher in college, too (and pretty effective), but they had him slim down a lot to add speed.  I don’t see Epenesa as a total bust with 6.5 sacks last year, but I’d say fair to say they hoped for more from him.

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MOCK DRAFT MACHINE 

 

28

Buffalo Bills

Drew SandersLB, Arkansas

User Pick

Round 2

60

Buffalo Bills

Jalin HyattWR, Tennessee

User Pick

Round 3

92

Buffalo Bills

Zach CharbonnetRB, UCLA

User Pick

Round 4

131

Buffalo Bills

Luke SchoonmakerTE, Michigan

User Pick

Round 5

139

Buffalo Bills

JL SkinnerSAF, Boise State

User Pick

Round 6

207

Buffalo Bills

DJ JohnsonEDGE, Oregon

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9 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:

I don’t know how to view Van Ness.  A first for a guy who wasn’t even a starter in college seems too high to me.  I also wonder if his primarily power pass rush will be effective against NFL OL.  Epenesa was a power rusher in college, too (and pretty effective), but they had him slim down a lot to add speed.  I don’t see Epenesa as a total bust with 6.5 sacks last year, but I’d say fair to say they hoped for more from him.

 

I understand the apprehension. Van Ness is raw, but his athleticism is really off the charts and is a very different player from AJ. He is just a redshirt sophomore, so he has some development to go through in terms of hand placement and pass rush moves and strategy, but he's going to be very good. He's an upside play and was BPA when I did that draft. I think he will go in the top 15. 

 

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6 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

 

I understand the apprehension. Van Ness is raw, but his athleticism is really off the charts and is a very different player from AJ. He is just a redshirt sophomore, so he has some development to go through in terms of hand placement and pass rush moves and strategy, but he's going to be very good. He's an upside play and was BPA when I did that draft. I think he will go in the top 15. 

 

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Thanks - I hadn’t read or watched many DEs because it doesn’t seem like a likely position for the Bills in round 1.  Of course, a great pass rusher would be in their consideration, if one is available.  I didn’t realize that Van Ness was that much more athletic than Epenesa was.  I wonder how Epenesa would fare in some of those tests now that he has dropped considerable weight.

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37 minutes ago, ScorpionZero said:

MOCK DRAFT MACHINE 

 

28

Buffalo Bills

Drew SandersLB, Arkansas

User Pick

Round 2

60

Buffalo Bills

Jalin HyattWR, Tennessee

User Pick

Round 3

92

Buffalo Bills

Zach CharbonnetRB, UCLA

User Pick

Round 4

131

Buffalo Bills

Luke SchoonmakerTE, Michigan

User Pick

Round 5

139

Buffalo Bills

JL SkinnerSAF, Boise State

User Pick

Round 6

207

Buffalo Bills

DJ JohnsonEDGE, Oregon

Not a single Offensive Lineman? Hard to believe. 

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TDN

 

28

Buffalo Bills

Dawand JonesOT, Ohio State

User Pick

Round 2

60

Buffalo Bills

Jack CampbellLB, Iowa

User Pick

Round 3

92

Buffalo Bills

Tucker KraftTE, South Dakota State

User Pick

Round 4

131

Buffalo Bills

Andrew VorheesIOL, USC

User Pick

Round 5

139

Buffalo Bills

Andrei IosivasWR, Princeton

User Pick

Round 6

207

Buffalo Bills

Devonnsha MaxwellIDL, Chattanooga

The last pick was supposed to be a safety but I forgot to pause the draft while I was deciding, so it picked the DL for me. 

1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

Not a single Offensive Lineman? Hard to believe. 

Your not wrong

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2 hours ago, OldTimer1960 said:

I don’t know how to view Van Ness.  A first for a guy who wasn’t even a starter in college seems too high to me.  I also wonder if his primarily power pass rush will be effective against NFL OL.  Epenesa was a power rusher in college, too (and pretty effective), but they had him slim down a lot to add speed.  I don’t see Epenesa as a total bust with 6.5 sacks last year, but I’d say fair to say they hoped for more from him.

They should have never changed Epenesa, he'd be a great power rusher by now putting tackles in QBs laps, and going inside on passing downs.

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3 hours ago, OldTimer1960 said:

Thanks - I hadn’t read or watched many DEs because it doesn’t seem like a likely position for the Bills in round 1.  Of course, a great pass rusher would be in their consideration, if one is available.  I didn’t realize that Van Ness was that much more athletic than Epenesa was.  I wonder how Epenesa would fare in some of those tests now that he has dropped considerable weight.


Great question. I’m not sure that Epenesa would ever have that twitch that Van Ness has. Van Ness was a hockey player who kind of switch over to football late just because he’s so damn big. But AJ definitely looks like a better athlete than he ever was before. I’d like to see if he takes that big leap. 

 

In terms of edge guys, I think it is a sneaky need. They need to get to the QB and that is the bottom line. People get upset because they spent a ton of resources on the DL. Sunk cost…that isn’t going to stop them from continuing to add players and use high picks. 

1 hour ago, ScorpionZero said:

They should have never changed Epenesa, he'd be a great power rusher by now putting tackles in QBs laps, and going inside on passing downs.


I don’t know about great, but they should have just left him and Boogie Basham alone. Let them be who they were meant to be. 

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TDN

 

28

Buffalo Bills

Drew SandersLB, Arkansas

User Pick

Round 2

60

Buffalo Bills

Isaiah FoskeyEDGE, Notre Dame

User Pick

Round 3

92

Buffalo Bills

Israel AbanikandaRB, Pitt

User Pick

Round 4

131

Buffalo Bills

Andrei IosivasWR, Princeton

User Pick

Round 5

139

Buffalo Bills

Luke SchoonmakerTE, Michigan

User Pick

Round 6

207

Buffalo Bills

Daniel ScottSAF, California

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Today's edition.  No WRs (not intentional, but never BPA).  

 

27.

Darnell Wright

OT Tennessee

 

59.

Drew Sanders

LB Arkansas

 

91.

Joe Tippmann

OC Wisconsin

 

130.

Jammie Robinson

S Florida State

 

137.

Andrew Vorhees

OG USC

 

205.

DeWayne McBride

RB UAB

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5 hours ago, ScorpionZero said:

PFN

 

27.

Drew Sanders

LB Arkansas

42.

Jack Campbell

LB Iowa

91.

Warren McClendon

OT Georgia

130.

Bryce Ford-Wheaton

WR West Virginia

137.

Andrew Vorhees

OG USC

205.

Davis Allen

TE Clemson

 

I've been double dipping on linebacker recently too and think that this is your best mock so far.  Well done!

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