Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: They already had 7 points on the board and were easily moving the ball on the second drive. What was going to all the sudden change to stop that? The bears had 90 yards and a TD, and turnover on downs on their first 2 possessions. What was going to change? Football stuff - penalties, drops, bad throws, things that happen over the course of a game. Good plays, good tackles, pass break ups, tipped passes... Edited January 9, 2023 by Bleeding Bills Blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: And yesterday, 14 of those points came from special teams. I hope you're not expecting that every game. Right now, Cincy and KC have more consistent offenses and I also think Cincy's D is better than ours right now. I agree, they do. But those games will come down to shootouts. And if you are telling me the Bills don't have a shot in those shootouts I'm telling you I disagree. I'd also back our D to force a turnover or two for us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Just now, Bleeding Bills Blue said: The bears had 90 yards and a TD, and turnover on downs on their first 2 possessions. What was going to change? Football stuff - penalties, drops, bad throws, things that happen over the course of a game. Let's not use a team that has the #1 draft pick as an example of anything. We are talking about playoff football against good teams. Just now, GunnerBill said: I agree, they do. But those games will come down to shootouts. And if you are telling me the Bills don't have a shot in those shootouts I'm telling you I disagree. I'd also back our D to force a turnover or two for us. The offense was mostly dormant yesterday until later in the game. 7 offensive points in the first half. If that continues, they will find themselves in a huge hole against teams like Cincy and KC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Just now, Billz4ever said: Let's not use a team that has the #1 draft pick as an example of anything. We are talking about playoff football against good teams. Chicago looked good in that first 10-15 plays though didn't they... then they didn't do anything. Also the game will be in Buffalo - Cincy is 6-3 on the road and 6-1 at home. They have 4 road wins during their win streak - Pittsburgh (who isn't a strong team), Tennessee (who cincy matches up well with), Tampa (who can't run the ball well, and turned it over several times giving the game to the bengals), and the patriots, who the bengals didn't score on after going up 24-0. So they looked unstoppable for the first 5 drives then went Punt, INT, Punt, Missed FG, Fumble, Punt, end of game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: Chicago looked good in that first 10-15 plays though didn't they... then they didn't do anything. Also the game will be in Buffalo - Cincy is 6-3 on the road and 6-1 at home. They have 4 road wins during their win streak - Pittsburgh (who isn't a strong team), Tennessee (who cincy matches up well with), Tampa (who can't run the ball well, and turned it over several times giving the game to the bengals), and the patriots, who the bengals didn't score on after going up 24-0. So they looked unstoppable for the first 5 drives then went Punt, INT, Punt, Missed FG, Fumble, Punt, end of game. Bengals start well. But seem to fall little bit second half in games. Bill's defense gets better in games after first quarter or before first quarter ends. Pretty much nonsense some think they have have no chance vs team's. Bill's have to play good. Edited January 9, 2023 by Buffalo Bills Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: Chicago looked good in that first 10-15 plays though didn't they... then they didn't do anything. Also the game will be in Buffalo - Cincy is 6-3 on the road and 6-1 at home. They have 4 road wins during their win streak - Pittsburgh (who isn't a strong team), Tennessee (who cincy matches up well with), Tampa (who can't run the ball well, and turned it over several times giving the game to the bengals), and the patriots, who the bengals didn't score on after going up 24-0. So they looked unstoppable for the first 5 drives then went Punt, INT, Punt, Missed FG, Fumble, Punt, end of game. I don't really care how they did against other teams. I care how they match up against us and they match up against us very well. Anyway, we need to worry about Miami first, as they played us very tough just a few weeks ago. They are known as a passing team, but they were able to run on us. It took some late game heroics to win as we found ourselves down going into the 4th quarter in a game many said was going to be easy since there was this assumption the Fish couldn't play in the cold. Edited January 9, 2023 by Billz4ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 As much as we love to complain about the defense, the Bills are #2 in the NFL in points allowed after the Niners. Every one of our losses has been a single score game so it's not as if the offense hasn't had its chances. Our scheme is purposefully built to force teams to beat us underneath. This does result in a lot of annoying 3rd and 4th down conversions. But that was the same last year too and the year before that. I think the issue is that the offense hasn't been as hot so you're not seeing the Bills clip teams wings early. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 13 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: And yesterday, 14 of those points came from special teams. I hope you're not expecting that every game. Right now, Cincy and KC have more consistent offenses and I also think Cincy's D is better than ours right now. Do they? The knock on the Bengals is the O disappears for stretches. When it is humming it looks unstoppable but then it hits a rut - like yesterday and last week vs NE and you wonder what the heck happened. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said: Bengals start well. But seem to fall little bit second half in games. Bill's defense gets better in games after first quarter or before first quarter ends. Pretty much nonsense some think they have have no chance vs team's. Bill's have to play good. I don't know if that's due to them taking their foot off the gas or what, but I rather not find ourselves in a big hole in the first place to find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 31 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: The offense was mostly dormant yesterday until later in the game. 7 offensive points in the first half. If that continues, they will find themselves in a huge hole against teams like Cincy and KC. Cincy and KC don't have even nearly the Patriots defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Do they? The knock on the Bengals is the O disappears for stretches. When it is humming it looks unstoppable but then it hits a rut - like yesterday and last week vs NE and you wonder what the heck happened. If I had the choice, I can certainly say I would rather be up by several scores in a game like they were and have the defense hold the opponent rather than the offense having to try and come from behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 39 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: And yesterday, 14 of those points came from special teams. I hope you're not expecting that every game. Right now, Cincy and KC have more consistent offenses and I also think Cincy's D is better than ours right now. We saw Cincy on defense for one drive and only we stopped ourselves with Allen/Beasley not connecting on an easy pitch and catch walk in TD. Without Von and Hyde, our defense is very similar to Cincy's. Both defenses are better than the Chiefs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 30 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: The offense was mostly dormant yesterday until later in the game. 7 offensive points in the first half. If that continues, they will find themselves in a huge hole against teams like Cincy and KC. I mean... and this was only 3 weeks ago... And you think the Kansas City offense is more consistent when it's struggled against the likes of Houston and Denver in recent weeks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly McButterpants Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 14 hours ago, Chaos said: There is not much evidence any 2022 NFL defense consistenly shuts down the top offenses. Against the Chiefs, the Bills will have to win the track meet. They won the track meet in last year's playoffs and the D still managed to "eff" it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Cincy and KC don't have even nearly the Patriots defense. PPG against NE - 20.4 Cin - 20.1 KC - 21.7 Yds/g against NE - 322 Cin - 335 KC - 328 Sacks NE - 54 Cin - 30 KC - 55 Not really seeing anything there that shows NE is this defensive juggernaut compared to the other 2. Cincy doesn't have the sack numbers, but has a lower ppg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent Hulka Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 If this defense plays in the playoffs like it did yesterday, and the Bills get bounced from the playoffs, I can only hope that it would provide the impetus for Beane to decide to replace Frazier. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 1 hour ago, BBills_88 said: I do not like the bailing technique The lack of ball awareness is atrocious. Can we get a few 6'2 + DB's to go with the more Athletic WR's that are in the league. That’s why we drafted Binford and Elam both of them are athletic big corners 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBills_88 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: That’s why we drafted Binford and Elam both of them are athletic big corners I am also referring to safeties as well Edited January 9, 2023 by BBills_88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said: I mean... and this was only 3 weeks ago... And you think the Kansas City offense is more consistent when it's struggled against the likes of Houston and Denver in recent weeks? KC averages more points in away games than they do home. KC only averages 25.1 at Arrowhead and 32.8 on the road. Bills average 31.9 at Highmark and only 25.8 on the road. Neutral site AFCCG may play into KC's favor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, BBills_88 said: I am also referring to safeties as well Yeah, I don’t know how we don’t draft a safety given the uncertainty of Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer doesn’t have a contract yet. I just don’t know that it will be the first round pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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