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19 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

Ok, so let's be civil.  I agree with Bill.  I'll dumb it down to the fringe on the left is unbelievably annoying but ignorable.   They have little influence, I wish they had none but...democracy.   politicians cave to nonsense for votes.

 

The fringe has become the right.  Republicans who don't cave to election fraud nonsense are called rinos and often lose elections because of that.   I rarely hear normal discourse from conservatives.   It's a spatter of inane conspiracy theories.   

 

Explain to me how you think that's incorrect if you would.   I totally agree that both parties need to elect better people.   That may be the only way out.  I'm glad that a lot of the most divisive are old as shiite.  

I don’t know where to begin if you do t see the outsized influence of the leftist agenda by the loud and crazy minority. We just are not speaking the same language. 

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1 minute ago, HamSandwhich said:

I don’t know where to begin if you do t see the outsized influence of the leftist agenda by the loud and crazy minority. We just are not speaking the same language. 

Ok let's say that's accurate.   Is it more so than the far rights influence?

 

I dont see how that's even arguable.  Rarely is policy even discussed by the right.  Most of what I see is Hunter Biden plus what is a male.  So consumed by admittedly stupid shiite that nothing meaningful is even discussed.

 

I mentioned candidates losing elections if they don't claim Biden/dems stole the election.   That's insane.  They have to ride a conspiracy with ZERO proof to even be considered in many places?  Come on.  

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31 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

Ok let's say that's accurate.   Is it more so than the far rights influence?

 

I dont see how that's even arguable.  Rarely is policy even discussed by the right.  Most of what I see is Hunter Biden plus what is a male.  So consumed by admittedly stupid shiite that nothing meaningful is even discussed.

 

I mentioned candidates losing elections if they don't claim Biden/dems stole the election.   That's insane.  They have to ride a conspiracy with ZERO proof to even be considered in many places?  Come on.  

You’re off the rails man. There are plenty of things they are running on and are actively being pushed against by the leftist agenda, energy at home, the fight against censorship (it’s a real thing though you want to make it seem like a boogey man), making sure that parents have rights in the classroom and appropriate things are being taught schools for appropriate ages, having a police presence and honoring police rather than demonizing all of them because of a few bad apples, I can go on and on. What the heck are you talking about? I hear this all the time from leftist idiots, as though republicans have nothing they stand for. You’re just lazy. Those are just a few off the top of my head. Religious freedom, another, very important, probably just doesn’t jive with what you like so you say it’s nothing. 
 

What I like most of all is a gridlocked government that gets smaller, beautiful! 

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35 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said:

Religious freedom, another, very important, probably just doesn’t jive with what you like so you say it’s nothing. 
 

You mean freedom for non Christians? Cuz Christians have all the freedom they can handle.  pls give an example of Christians freedom being taken.  Now MTG believes the entire gov't should be Christian.  When Lesley Stahl asked her how this fit with the constitution she said "our founding father's were all Christian" or something to that effect.  "Christian nationalists"  carry great sway with the R's these days. MTG was pivotal in putting Kevin McCarthy in the position he is woefully inadequate for. Give an example of a fringe leftist group with as much influence.

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37 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

You mean freedom for non Christians? Cuz Christians have all the freedom they can handle.  pls give an example of Christians freedom being taken.  Now MTG believes the entire gov't should be Christian.  When Lesley Stahl asked her how this fit with the constitution she said "our founding father's were all Christian" or something to that effect.  "Christian nationalists"  carry great sway with the R's these days. MTG was pivotal in putting Kevin McCarthy in the position he is woefully inadequate for. Give an example of a fringe leftist group with as much influence.

Lol so many issues with what you’re saying. The law recently passed where they felt the need to add in interracial marriage made it so anyone trying to practice their religion outside of religious institutions, say in their own place of business, can be sued for discrimination. That is not religious freedom, religious people don’t only practice their religion in their house of worship. Religion is under fire and needs to be protected in an ever more secular country, but you knew that. 
 
Your bias is showing with the Mike McCarthy comment, he’s been doing just fine. Sorry your butts so chapped about him. 

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5 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said:

Lol so many issues with what you’re saying. The law recently passed where they felt the need to add in interracial marriage made it so anyone trying to practice their religion outside of religious institutions, say in their own place of business, can be sued for discrimination. That is not religious freedom, religious people don’t only practice their religion in their house of worship. Religion is under fire and needs to be protected in an ever more secular country, but you knew that. 

Huh?  Please link an article on this law.  Federal?  State? or fictitious?

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28 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said:

You’re off the rails man. There are plenty of things they are running on and are actively being pushed against by the leftist agenda, energy at home, the fight against censorship (it’s a real thing though you want to make it seem like a boogey man), making sure that parents have rights in the classroom and appropriate things are being taught schools for appropriate ages, having a police presence and honoring police rather than demonizing all of them because of a few bad apples, I can go on and on. What the heck are you talking about? I hear this all the time from leftist idiots, as though republicans have nothing they stand for. You’re just lazy. Those are just a few off the top of my head. Religious freedom, another, very important, probably just doesn’t jive with what you like so you say it’s nothing. 
 

What I like most of all is a gridlocked government that gets smaller, beautiful! 

Man, if you don't think you answer is weak as hell...

 

And even were those important issues, as opposed to like infrastructure and Healthcare, how much time will your elected buddies spend on them vs defending Trump and going after Hunter Biden?

 

Honoring police is their platform?  Religious freedom is a problem that needs solving?   

 

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1 minute ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

Man, if you don't think you answer is weak as hell...

 

And even were those important issues, as opposed to like infrastructure and Healthcare, how much time will your elected buddies spend on them vs defending Trump and going after Hunter Biden?

 

Honoring police is their platform?  Religious freedom is a problem that needs solving?   

 

Yes and yes they are a platform for them, you’ve been listening to too much CNN man. Sorry for your brain rot. The only reason you see these as weak is because YOU don’t see them as important with your liberal BS mindset. You can’t wrap your mind around the fact that others have ideas contrary to yours and they are sincerely held. We are just those to be hated, compared to hitler, or called racist, masogynist etc. 

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7 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said:

Yes and yes they are a platform for them, you’ve been listening to too much CNN man. Sorry for your brain rot. The only reason you see these as weak is because YOU don’t see them as important with your liberal BS mindset. You can’t wrap your mind around the fact that others have ideas contrary to yours and they are sincerely held. We are just those to be hated, compared to hitler, or called racist, masogynist etc. 

nope.  You just have no idea what you're talking about and neither does anyone reading your posts.

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2 minutes ago, Andy1 said:

Party platforms are developed ahead of presidential elections. In 2020, the Republican party chose not to develop an official platform. Their simple platform statement was basically: whatever Trump wants for America First. 
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/resolution-regarding-the-republican-party-platform

 

 

Is that the only platform they have? https://budget.house.gov/press-release/smith-republicans-commitment-to-america-will-build-an-economy-thats-strong/

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6 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said:

I would call that a budget agenda rather than an official party platform. Platforms are usually big wordy documents describing a longer term vision for the future.
 

When they release their budget we will see what their priorities are. Hopefully the House and the Pres can reach compromise without crashing the economy. 

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3 minutes ago, Andy1 said:

I would call that a budget agenda rather than an official party platform. Platforms are usually big wordy documents describing a longer term vision for the future.
 

When they release their budget we will see what their priorities are. Hopefully the House and the Pres can reach compromise without crashing the economy. 

If Biden and his leftist lunatic modern monetary theory idiots get their way, the economy will crash either way, it's crashing already.

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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/stabbing-death-tech-executive-unleashes-170845014.html

 

Bob Lee, the 43-year-old founder of Cash App and a former executive at Square (now Block), was stabbed to death early Tuesday morning in downtown San Francisco.

Officers responded at 2:35 a.m. to a call reporting the stabbing and found Lee, who was visiting the city after having recently moved to Miami, according to NBC Bay Area. He was declared dead shortly after he was taken to the hospital, per a statement from San Francisco police.

No arrests have been made, and police haven’t released any details about a potential suspect.

After Lee’s death was reported, an outpouring of grief and remembrances for the tech executive, who also was the chief product officer at crypto startup MobileCoin, flooded social media. And along with the grief came a flood of anger over the state of San Francisco, which tech leaders have previously called the “worst run city in the United States.”

 

 

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12 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

says the guy who wants us all to just get along...

Biden is not a moderate, he may have used to be, but he is captured by his left flank today. He's compromised. 

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15 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

says the guy who wants us all to just get along...

Laugh all you want Redtail, but when Bernie Sanders thinks he has gotten most of what he wants from you, you're a socialist leftist https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/3865355-sanders-biden-a-more-progressive-president-than-he-was-as-senator/.

 

When you start adding in ESG into pension/401k plan, you're not working for what's best for Americans interest, you're working for what's best for the interest of your far left agenda. It's all there, clear as day. Carbon emissions, he wants to do away with them, his adversarial approach to all fossil fuels, all from the far left. He's captured. The only thing he's done recently that does not wreak of his far left flank is the push back on the DC policing act, he can see he's losing the policing battle and dems are starting to turn their messaging on that, finally. 

 

When I say more centrists need to step up, I mean in the vein of Manchin and Sinema, more of that. We didn't need all that spending last year, it was just the COVID excuse to install their modern monetary theory to blow out the budget, and as we predicted, inflation went WAY up and it's here to stay. We're in a tailspin precisely because of this administration, the banks fail if we go too high on the interest rates and the inflation goes ever higher if we dont raise them, so what do you do? Pefect example as to why a central government (Central Bank) making all the monetary decisions (or any central top down government entity) is never the answer, it always blows up at some point because one person cannot predict the entire economy. Here we are, a bunch of shills like yourself covering for our inept administration and your lefty cronies. 

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8 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

Ok let's say that's accurate.   Is it more so than the far rights influence?

 

I dont see how that's even arguable.  Rarely is policy even discussed by the right.  Most of what I see is Hunter Biden plus what is a male.  So consumed by admittedly stupid shiite that nothing meaningful is even discussed.

 

what you see? what are you looking at around you? there are meaningful things the right are fighting against every day.

 

we are in a proxy war with a nuclear power. there has been no peace talks and only further escalation by the US. all while china becomes the beacon of peace suddenly in the world? while talks of dumping the dollar take place among major economies? when bread cost 100 dollars cause its worthless im guessing then and only then will the virtue signaling fade real quick to secure what you need to survive. it will be f everyone else on a major scale. including under represented groups. that may or may not be hyperbole. its never been so close to real. one wrong target hit in nato and you might be in a trench next month.

 

people are being murdered by violent offenders that were released after being caught by liberals new soft on crime initiatives. robberies. looting. you name it up. this is unexplainable to anyone who lives a honest hard working life why dems refuse to address this. sure it may be getting slightly filtered out in elections but id expect enough victims have been piled up to do a complete 180 and demand serious change..nope. still charging people for defending themselves. still letting criminals in a turn style. still having MAJOR ISSUES hiring police and military which effects everyone when it comes to response when needed. you dont care until you need them.

 

excusing the weoponization of gov. twitter. massive data collection. multiple journalists doors kicked in. irs going after whistle blowers. now bs charges against former presidents? even lib outlets saying charges are a joke. not a peep from the left. all excused. its only getting more brash and escalating. completly numb that alot of this is unprecedented. i remember when trumps "fake news" comment was a "attack on journalism!!! fascism!!". but actual dept deployed applying pressure on citizens..yawn. 

 

inflation is crushing families started by the incorrect covid response. a response that was punished if fought against. a response by rep that was villianized and censored for years. but..who couldve known is what they say. as more is looked into. EVERYONE knew very well and mobilized fools based on fear against their neighbors. oldest trick still works. 

 

just a start. reversing any of this would be a decent policy. all things that greatly effect your and my life. nothing culture war or fringe going on. if you think this country is better then it was before this administration started. your either rich or blind. seriously give me somthing this administration has done to make your life better beside trillion dollar bills that they say will do great things for me in 20 years when everyone has forgotten how our debt tripled in a few years lol. id love a bit on encouragement as i check to make sure my bank still hasn't collapsed.

 

is this all a figment of my imagination? my cult has warped my mind and none of it is real? thats the way leftists keep insinuating reality is. 

 

 

8 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

 

I mentioned candidates losing elections if they don't claim Biden/dems stole the election.   That's insane.  They have to ride a conspiracy with ZERO proof to even be considered in many places?  Come on.  

 

you don't see the true difference between rep and dems followers. one has a major distrust of gov and one fully supports it. the reason there was/is so much election mistrust was covid had a bunch of states change voting laws and suddenly people had to wait weeks to get a clear picture or listen to how ballots could be removed from signatures and not double checked on and on with strange NEW policies..for our saftey of coarse. that dems never reversed. that's not normal and just because a law was changed last minute making it legal does not mean there couldn't be manipulation of it or if deeply looked at as a loophole for fraud. im not saying that is true. biden getting the most votes in history is a pretty good signal somthing was off here. biden, who hid in his basment and did not campaign much? if you say so. i honestly dont know enough about the sheer amount of changes to be convinced but it certainly smells funky. but liberals certainly had no issue jumping on the jim crow 2.0 hysteria when Republicans made changes. most moderate. BUT I.D. NOOOO!!!! they are stealing elections!!! so any argument on absurdity of reaction is pretty tone deaf. 

 

 

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