GunnerBill Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 On 6/10/2022 at 1:17 PM, Don Otreply said: I disagree that he was being honest in his response to the question about his role or his feelings, I am not saying he should have said something else, Expand His response to the question was: 1. It is in the past - you have accepted that is factually accurate. 2. That it is a matter for the Bills - surely you accept that is true? 3. He doesn't think about it. I mean I don't know whether that is true or not, pure guesswork either way. On 6/10/2022 at 1:23 PM, Bangarang said: What kind of accountability are you looking for exactly? Expand I have asked this question multiple times. They have no answer. Quote
Don Otreply Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 On 6/10/2022 at 12:15 PM, ScottLaw said: Even with that ***** up, they ***** up the three plays after in ridiculous fashion…. Even with two TOs to figure out a proper defense. IMO the special teams coach is down the line of people to blame… way behind both McDermott and Frazier. Expand The topic is about ST coach who evidently started the ball rolling in the wrong direction, stay on topic Scott, On 6/10/2022 at 12:59 PM, NoSaint said: you don’t get all the way to “and now he should have to publicly address it today” with all that though. likely because that’s a jump and reasonable to say it’s not something he needs to do Expand Not saying that he should, just saying he was giving a canned answer to the question asked, and that in doing so was not being honest, no more no less, Quote
Freddie's Dead Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 On 6/10/2022 at 1:23 PM, Bangarang said: What kind of accountability are you looking for exactly? Expand Any. Quote
Don Otreply Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 On 6/10/2022 at 12:59 PM, NoSaint said: you don’t get all the way to “and now he should have to publicly address it today” with all that though. likely because that’s a jump and reasonable to say it’s not something he needs to do Expand Not saying that he needs to do anything, I was saying that he wasn’t being honest with his canned answer to the question asked 1 Quote
Southern_Bills Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 On 6/10/2022 at 1:17 PM, Don Otreply said: I disagree that he was being honest in his response to the question about his role or his feelings, I am not saying he should have said something else, Expand He was being as honest as possible without breaking his word to his previous employer. Everything isn't for public knowledge. Quote
GunnerBill Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 On 6/10/2022 at 1:50 PM, Don Otreply said: Not saying that he needs to do anything, I was saying that he wasn’t being honest with his canned answer to the question asked Expand He wasn't spilling the beans. But that doesn't equate to not being honest. 1 Quote
Don Otreply Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 On 6/10/2022 at 1:37 PM, GunnerBill said: His response to the question was: 1. It is in the past - you have accepted that is factually accurate. 2. That it is a matter for the Bills - surely you accept that is true? 3. He doesn't think about it. I mean I don't know whether that is true or not, pure guesswork either way. I have asked this question multiple times. They have no answer. Expand Not so, you may have misinterpreted my answer, could very well be a case of two countries separated by a common language…, Quote
benderbender Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 We can expect the same "answer" and "accountability" that the government has had for the past two years: "It's over. Why dwell on the past? Moving forward." Quote
hondo in seattle Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 He's got a new home, a new job, a new group of peers and players. Immersed in his new life, I believe that he doesn't think about 13 seconds very much. And I give him credit. He doesn't sound bitter about Buffalo and doesn't throw anyone under the bus. All-in-all it was a positive, classy answer. 1 1 Quote
4merper4mer Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 On 6/10/2022 at 12:30 PM, H2o said: This is the answer he is giving which is both true and false at the same time. He has moved past it and is on to his next venture. The truth of what happened in that situation is only known by those directly involved. In truth, the situation is over. Rehashing it constantly is counterproductive and really doesn't have relevance to the present. You learn from it and move on. Expand All of the above is perfectly reasonable. That said, I’ve found that when someone says “honest” or “honestly” 37 times in nine seconds that they aren’t always being……..you know. 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 Think the people saying he isn't being honest actually mean he isn't being frank or candid. 1 Quote
Don Otreply Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 On 6/10/2022 at 1:53 PM, GunnerBill said: He wasn't spilling the beans. But that doesn't equate to not being honest. Expand It is an art form perfected by politicians and coaches, canned answers, using a bunch of words, at the same time never actually saying anything/ answering the question, this was a case of such a thing. Some call it talking around a topic, while all the time not actually addressing said topic. Quote
GunnerBill Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 On 6/10/2022 at 2:19 PM, Don Otreply said: It is an art form perfected by politicians and coaches, canned answers, using a bunch of words, at the same time never actually saying anything/ answering the question, this was a case of such a thing. Some call it talking around a topic, while all the time not actually addressing said topic. Expand Indeed. But it doesn't mean he wasn't honest. It means he wasn't candid. Quote
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 On 6/10/2022 at 1:14 PM, Freddie's Dead said: It's a BS answer. Months later and we still have no real accountability or an explanation of what really happened. Hopefully someday, someone will come clean and let us know exactly who ***** up. Expand Will probably be a “Real Sports” or 30 for 30 type documentary on the “greatest NFL game ever played” at some point in the future after a lot of the parties have retired, so they can speak more freely? 1 1 Quote
Freddie's Dead Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 (edited) On 6/10/2022 at 2:20 PM, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Will probably be a “Real Sports” or 30 for 30 type documentary on the “greatest NFL game ever played” at some point in the future after a lot of the parties have retired, so they can speak more freely? Expand It took like 15 years before Wade admitted that Ralph demanded that Scrub Johnson start the Music City Forward Pass game. Maybe we'll get answers in 2036. Edited June 10, 2022 by Freddie's Dead 1 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 On 6/10/2022 at 1:14 PM, Freddie's Dead said: It's a BS answer. Months later and we still have no real accountability or an explanation of what really happened. Hopefully someday, someone will come clean and let us know exactly who ***** up. Expand Why do we need to know? So long as there has been accountability in the building and the mistakes have been learned from what does hanging people out to dry in public achieve? McDermott said right after the game - contrary to what most people seem to think - that it starts with him. That is all we need to know. 1 Quote
Bangarang Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 On 6/10/2022 at 1:48 PM, Freddie's Dead said: Any. Expand A new ST coordinator doesn’t count? Or are you looking for a public lynching? McD has been here for 5 years, when have you ever known him to deal with things publicly? You really think he hasn’t dissected what went wrong and hasn’t addressed it? 1 1 Quote
muppy Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 pfft yeah well he's basically "Right" in as much as he has a different team to be concerned with in the now. AS IF he is going to want to open THAT can of worms in a what would become click bait article if he were to say anything other that what he did. 1 Quote
Brand J Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 Where did I hear that McD changed his mind about the kickoff (from through the EZ to short of it) and that the amended call never made it to Bass? Farwell was supposedly on the short kick to the EZ train from the moment after the offense scored. Quote
Bangarang Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 On 6/10/2022 at 2:33 PM, muppy said: pfft yeah well he's basically "Right" in as much as he has a different team to be concerned with in the now. AS IF he is going to want to open THAT can of worms in a what would become click bait article if he were to say anything other that what he did. Expand Its a no win situation for him. Either he admits he messed up or he throws his old team under the bus. He gave the typical canned NFL response. 1 Quote
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