N.Y. Orangeman Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 @HoofHearted This is great. Thank you! Please do this every week (sorry if I have missed previous version; there is a **** ton of ridiculousness to sort through in a loss around here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Paulson Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 1 hour ago, HoofHearted said: Read this. I disagree- he had a clear path to the ball carrier without getting blocked by either lineman- he froze and/or chose not to make a play but to stick to his 'assignment' results be dammed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 7 hours ago, HoofHearted said: 3rd and 1 - Edmunds fit great and whiffed the tackle because he stopped his feet on contact. No reason to draw that one up. Game Winning TD - Bills were playing 1 Rat coverage - a variation of Cover 1 (Man Free) and rushing 5. They stunt up front on the defensive left side pinching the 3 tech and 5 tech inside and blitzing Milano off the edge. The 3 tech and 9 tech to the defensive right rushed their lanes respectively. Everyone else is responsible for coverage. It's man so everyone except Poyer (F) has a man responsibility. Wallace (defensive right) has the furthest receiver outside, Johnson ($) has the #2 receiver to that side, Hyde (S) has the Tight End, Edmunds responsible for the back if he releases and is free otherwise, and Jackson (defensive left) has the furthest receiver outside to his side of the field. When they short motioned the outside receiver to the strong side of the field (defensive right) and he worked into a stack alignment with the receiver on the LoS Wallace and Johnson should have checked to a combo coverage here. Combo means Johnson is responsible for the first in-cutting route and Wallace is responsible for the first out-cutting route. There was zero communication and both Wallace and Johnson took #14 on the out-cutting route and no one was on the in-cutting route which was eventually thrown. Based on how i've seen the Bills play their 1 high coverage in the past Johnson should have carried the crosser since it went overtop of Edmunds (Typically in 1 Rat if a cross goes in front of the RAT player then they pick up the cross and whoever was on the receiver running the cross now becomes the RAT). Can't see Poyer in the highlight clip, but I'd assume he was "collected" by the vertical that Gronk ran and it took him out of the play entirely. Again, it comes down to players all not being on the same page which caused a failure in execution. Agreed. Our tackling as a defense has taken a huge step back this year. That's one thing (as a coach) I used to be able to point to that the Bills did a really good job of. This year it's like they threw everything they'd done in the past in regards to tackling fundamentals out the window. It needs to be fixed. Really good thanks. Not watched it back but my first instinct was Wallace definitely starts with Perriman and then checks out of it as though he is passing on. Clearly a miscommunication and not on Edmunds who in the end is trying to chase a WR all the way across the field. I thought Edmunds was poor yesterday. He missed plays that were there for him to make, not least the 3rd and 1 where Fournette should have been pushed back for a loss. But the game winner was not on him. 8 hours ago, JohnNord said: Ok cool… this has now made the rounds of Twitter. Tough play, yes but again it’s why I don’t think as good as some hype him up to be Play he HAS to make. When you are deciding whether to pay a guy this is the kind of play you decide on. No excuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 21 hours ago, HoofHearted said: Tampa runs Buck Sweep on 1st and 10 and catch Buffalo rolling 3 weak. Buffalo is beat at birth right here based on alignment since they have Rousseau lined up in a 7 tech instead of a 9 and their Sam linebacker (Milano) playing a 50 and having to set the edge from depth. Milano's responsibility is to set the edge so he is going to take on the first puller with outside leverage forcing Edmunds to take on the second puller with outside leverage and force the play back inside to the Will/Nickel (Johnson) and Strong Safety (Poyer). Johnson missed the tackle and Poyer got worked by the Left Tackle as the Alley player allowing the touchdown. Edminds fit his gap assignment. Anyone who says he overran the play doesn't understand football and run fit assignments. Flame on haters.... @AlCowlingsTaxiService @LABillsBacker @Rick 'r Mortis On this one my first instinct was Taron was slow diagnosing and hence late to his gap leading to the missed tackle. Is that what you saw? Anyone putting this one on Edmunds is clearly mad. He got to his gap but the interior OL got to him and blocked him out of the play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Really good thanks. Not watched it back but my first instinct was Wallace definitely starts with Perriman and then checks out of it as though he is passing on. Clearly a miscommunication and not on Edmunds who in the end is trying to chase a WR all the way across the field. I thought Edmunds was poor yesterday. He missed plays that were there for him to make, not least the 3rd and 1 where Fournette should have been pushed back for a loss. But the game winner was not on him. Play he HAS to make. When you are deciding whether to pay a guy this is the kind of play you decide on. No excuses. Common knowledge that when you MLB comes in clean on 3rd with a shot to stop the RB for a loss, he can’t whiff. This was a bad play. Edmunds is very inconsistent 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: On this one my first instinct was Taron was slow diagnosing and hence late to his gap leading to the missed tackle. Is that what you saw? Anyone putting this one on Edmunds is clearly mad. He got to his gap but the interior OL got to him and blocked him out of the play. Pretty sure that Edmunds deserves his fair of blame for the run defense this year that has given up huge runs and struggled with physical teams. Edmunds is the QB of that defense. He just not physical enough. Also has poor instincts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 1 minute ago, JohnNord said: Common knowledge that when you MLB comes in clean on 3rd with a shot to stop the RB for a loss, he can’t whiff. This was a bad play. Edmunds is very inconsistent He made a similar play earlier. Didn’t make this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Just now, GoBills808 said: He made a similar play earlier. Didn’t make this one. What play are you referring to? Last year versus San Fran? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, JohnNord said: What play are you referring to? Last year versus San Fran? No, same game v Fournette. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 @JohnNord 1:56 Q2 first and ten BUF 28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: @JohnNord 1:56 Q2 first and ten BUF 28 Like I said, he’s very inconsistent. Doesn’t make the big play when you need him to. Average MLB and not worth a big second contract 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 20 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said: Another long TD run vs. the Bills defense...... This is an issue. Yes it is....but lets put blame on the correct players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 10 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Yes it is....but lets put blame on the correct players Did I name anyone? It has happened too much and cost the Bills games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: Did I name anyone? It has happened too much and cost the Bills games Not specifically you....but lets face it nobody is blaming Taron Johnson and EVERYONE is blaming Edmunds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 I blame the defense as a whole. First allowing a 15 yard dump off to Gronk and then the td..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 My contribution? Telling everyone what a great thread this is. Great thread, gang. After a tough game and tough season, feels like TBD is turning the corner here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 I'm confused. Its conventional wisdom on TSW that only posters with thousands of threads are worth listening to. Might that be wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Lets face it,Buffalo has a bad habit of giving up game changing long runs. 😬😬😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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