B-Man Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 4, 2022 Author Share Posted September 4, 2022 Good thing Ukraine has the backing of Big Daddy USA. Thank God Biden is president! Glory to Ukraine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 24 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Can someone explain to my why someone making $250k a year needs to have their student loan forgiven? I’m mean a real good reason other than “hey! The Dems need votes this November!” Someone or do you mean HOUSEHOLD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 3 hours ago, B-Man said: I'm not saying Putin's petro politics power play is a *bad* move. It just might be akin to cashing out your 401k to pay for your kid's engineering degree, only to find out he's a coke fiend. Maybe he straightens out and gets rich. Or maybe you both end up *****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: Good thing Ukraine has the backing of Big Daddy USA. Thank God Biden is president! Glory to Ukraine! Wait ….”God Biden”? That’s a bit over the top even for you, no? 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 4, 2022 Author Share Posted September 4, 2022 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: Wait ….”God Biden”? That’s a bit over the top even for you, no? 😉 You are right, the American Democratic party and their voters are to be thanked. Did Trump really praise the murderous, terrorist Putin last night? What a mess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: You are right, the American Democratic party and their voters are to be thanked. Did Trump really praise the murderous, terrorist Putin last night? What a mess! Yes I’m sure all those thousands of dead and homeless Ukrainians were happy to provide you with an excuse to blame Trump from your comfortable easy chair in WNY. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 4, 2022 Author Share Posted September 4, 2022 14 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Yes I’m sure all those thousands of dead and homeless Ukrainians were happy to provide you with an excuse to blame Trump from your comfortable easy chair in WNY. Just glad they are not living under the yoke of Russian fascism, which you dismissively sneeze at and yawn about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 What Could Possibly Go Wrong? Pentagon Speeds Arms Sales to Allies, as US Stockpiles Dwindle https://redstate.com/mike_miller/2022/09/04/what-could-possibly-go-wrong-pentagon-speeds-arms-sales-to-allies-as-us-stockpiles-dwindle-n622624 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: Just glad they are not living under the yoke of Russian fascism, which you dismissively sneeze at and yawn about. To quote Billstime: Keep deflecting! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 10 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: To quote Billstime: Keep deflecting! Some of our friends hear the dog whistle of "democracy" and immediately imagine some sort of utopia. That must be defended and supported whatever the cost. What they don't comprehend or what they don't want to acknowledge is the Ukranian oligarch system in form and function is much closer to the Russian model than it is the Western model of democracy. Corruption is rampant and embedded into the political and social system. They believe the US government is acting out of a desire to support democracy rather than the primary objective of supporting US policy towards containing Russia. It's a beauty is in the eye of the beholder situation. Most of us see a partner with flaws and faults. They see perfection. If you've ever had a friend in love with a seriously flawed person and tried to convince them of those flaws you know what I mean. They're just not going to see it. Much like many posters can't see the flaws that are Ukraine. And sure, we should help them, but we need to be realistic and see the place for what it is which is far from perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 5, 2022 Author Share Posted September 5, 2022 11 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: To quote Billstime: Keep deflecting! Nothing to deflect from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 5, 2022 Author Share Posted September 5, 2022 And Trump praises Putin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 On 9/3/2022 at 7:27 PM, Coffeesforclosers said: Interesting. Russia's hoping that short-term political pressure will get them what they want. Otherwise Europe will take energy from other places and sources. And destroy their demand for Russian energy. Changing energy plans takes years to agree to and then implement, if they have a cold winter we will have a lot of dead people in Europe due to lack of access to energy sources. They are in a rough situation due to poor planning during past 5 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said: Changing energy plans takes years to agree to and then implement, if they have a cold winter we will have a lot of dead people in Europe due to lack of access to energy sources. They are in a rough situation due to poor planning during past 5 years No doubt the chickens are coming home to roost. European countries can always choose to continue giving up sovereignty and liberty for comfort and economic growth. They'll have to perform miracles recommissioning old coal and nuclear plants. It will be a near run thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeBills Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 8 hours ago, Coffeesforclosers said: No doubt the chickens are coming home to roost. European countries can always choose to continue giving up sovereignty and liberty for comfort and economic growth. They'll have to perform miracles recommissioning old coal and nuclear plants. It will be a near run thing. What a moronic take...The Eco-Greens have walked European countries off a cliff, of their own volition. It sucks but it's their own fault. The only upside I see is the US may benefit from a Refugee crisis like the Irish Potato famine 200 years ago...I say that with zero joy just the obviousness of it all. American Leftists are going to destroy this country, Western civilization, and almost everything else probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 6, 2022 Author Share Posted September 6, 2022 13 hours ago, OrangeBills said: What a moronic take...The Eco-Greens have walked European countries off a cliff, of their own volition. It sucks but it's their own fault. The only upside I see is the US may benefit from a Refugee crisis like the Irish Potato famine 200 years ago...I say that with zero joy just the obviousness of it all. American Leftists are going to destroy this country, Western civilization, and almost everything else probably. When? I thought you guys said Bill Clinton was the end of everything good. Well, what's it been, 30 years since Slick Wille set about to destroy America Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 6 minutes ago, Tiberius said: When? I thought you guys said Bill Clinton was the end of everything good. Well, what's it been, 30 years since Slick Wille set about to destroy America I think you made that up. Stop lying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 6, 2022 Author Share Posted September 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, Westside said: I think you made that up. Stop lying. Oh, you don't remember Conservatives claiming it was like the end of the Roman Republic? "Bread and Circuses! The immorality of the Clinton regime is emblematic of the roman orgies, we are doomed!!" Ya, the Conservatives freaked out over Clinton. I mean Two Term Clinton. He won twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 Just now, Tiberius said: Oh, you don't remember Conservatives claiming it was like the end of the Roman Republic? "Bread and Circuses! The immorality of the Clinton regime is emblematic of the roman orgies, we are doomed!!" Ya, the Conservatives freaked out over Clinton. I mean Two Term Clinton. He won twice. No, I voted for clinton, I don't remember republicans freaking out over it. Stop being a drama queen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 6, 2022 Author Share Posted September 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Westside said: No, I voted for clinton, I don't remember republicans freaking out over it. Stop being a drama queen. Oh, forgot the whole impeachment for a BJ thing? Clinton's health care plan, remember that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 Just now, Tiberius said: Oh, forgot the whole impeachment for a BJ thing? Clinton's health care plan, remember that? Yes, I remember. It was for lying, not for getting a BJ. This is what I mean, why do you feel the need to exaggerate to make your accusations sound worse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 6, 2022 Author Share Posted September 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, Westside said: Yes, I remember. It was for lying, not for getting a BJ. This is what I mean, why do you feel the need to exaggerate to make your accusations sound worse? You are lying. The Conservatives had a huge freak out over Clinton. It was the end!! Rush Limbo started up during that romper room outburst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 15 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Oh, you don't remember Conservatives claiming it was like the end of the Roman Republic? "Bread and Circuses! The immorality of the Clinton regime is emblematic of the roman orgies, we are doomed!!" Ya, the Conservatives freaked out over Clinton. I mean Two Term Clinton. He won twice. I thought Bill did a decent job but he does have a yet to be explained clearly documented relationship with the late Jeffery Epstein. Manifests state Bill was a passenger on Epstein's sex plane several times. Was he just hitching a ride? And the DOJ in their usually conditional application of the law, is sitting on the "Black Book" listing all the "Johns", dates, names, and places along with information on the abused young women. Rumor has it disclosing the list would take down a lot of high profile political and business players. But the silence from the usual demands for justice self-righteous social justice crew is deafening. Seems like they just act up when they're told to act up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 16 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Oh, forgot the whole impeachment for a BJ thing? Clinton's health care plan, remember that? He was impeached for lying while under oath to a grand jury. When it was made so obvious, there was no way perjury from the President can be swept under the rug. His law license was suspended in Arkansas and from practicing before the Supreme Court. Of course his health care plan, the one he but Hillary in charge of until he got crushed in the mid terms over it? That's why he hired David Gergen to right the sinking ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demongyz Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 18 minutes ago, sherpa said: He was impeached for lying while under oath to a grand jury. When it was made so obvious, there was no way perjury from the President can be swept under the rug. His law license was suspended in Arkansas and from practicing before the Supreme Court. Of course his health care plan, the one he but Hillary in charge of until he got crushed in the mid terms over it? That's why he hired David Gergen to right the sinking ship. Also the 1994 election brought Newt with the contract with America and that saved the economy and Bill Clinton was the last president to actually have a budget surplus. That all went to ***** a few years later with 9/11 and we haven't looked back since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 6, 2022 Author Share Posted September 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Bandito said: We aren't a democracy. We are: 1. A Constitutional Republic 2. A Representative Democracy 3. An Indirect Democracy 4. A Federal form of government 5. A Presidential form of government And a democracy I vote. The Constitution says we all have the right to vote (careful). We pick our leaders by...voting! That's a democracy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 6, 2022 Author Share Posted September 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, Bandito said: We are not a democracy. This is amazing to behold. You act like an expert on everything in the political forum, yet did not even know we are not a democracy. This made my day. Thank you for providing a great laugh! How are we not a democracy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 6, 2022 Author Share Posted September 6, 2022 Interesting comments in this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 6 hours ago, Tiberius said: How are we not a democracy? They love that talking point even though it's utterly meaningless. Little understanding that there are different forms of democracy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 18 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said: They love that talking point even though it's utterly meaningless. Little understanding that there are different forms of democracy. SURE there are. On a political message board I’d have thought we could get even a basic consensus on political terminology. This is NOT a democracy. At least not on the federal level anyway. In fact, it was set up very purposefully not to be one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 7, 2022 Author Share Posted September 7, 2022 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: SURE there are. On a political message board I’d have thought we could get even a basic consensus on political terminology. This is NOT a democracy. At least not on the federal level anyway. In fact, it was set up very purposefully not to be one. It's very different now from when it was set up. It has gotten democratic since it was founded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 7, 2022 Author Share Posted September 7, 2022 Lots of people claiming Ukraine is making major gains right now 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 8, 2022 Author Share Posted September 8, 2022 Liberation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 9, 2022 Author Share Posted September 9, 2022 Interesting if true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Easy does it. The Ukrainians have done a great job setting up their offensives, it's true. A lot of the elite infantry and tank units that Russia needs to counter-attack in the north were sent south to defend Kherson. That gives the recent breakthrough near Kharkiv a good chance to succeed and a decent window to do it in. But they've got to take Kupyansk if they want to really screw up the Russian position in Luhansk/Donetsk. Kupyansk is the road and rail hub Russia needs to move men and supplies quickly and in large quantities. It also means that Russia will have a much easier time moving supplies and reinforcements into Kupyansk, than the Ukrainians will have moving fresh attacking troops through the hole they opened in the Russian defense and across the 30ish miles of territory they've advanced. Give it time, there's a lot left in play up North, as well as Ukraine is doing right now. In the south, Ukraine's just going to keep grinding away. The Russian defenders there have a river between them and their lines of supply and reinforcement, and Ukraine blows up their bridges they put across it regularly. They're really in a jam, as losing Kherson to the Ukrainians is a Tet-offensive sized political headache for Putin and the rest of his wannabe Neocons. So they're forced to defend a very disadvantageous position with crack troops they need elsewhere. This is still playing out, and the Russians are taking a hell of a beating, but there's a long way to go yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiberius Posted September 9, 2022 Author Share Posted September 9, 2022 Saw another report that Uk had entered Izyum itself and there was street fighting going on there. Twitter and the fog of war, lol. Hope the progress is real! 🇺🇦 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 10, 2022 Author Share Posted September 10, 2022 So much good news in Ukraine. Liberation of towns and cities. Uk has momentum for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 10, 2022 Author Share Posted September 10, 2022 A-10's in use in Ukraine? Looks like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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