TSOL Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Tell that to someone without money Cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 2 hours ago, TSOL said: It's money laundering on a geo-political scale. Using human life as the fuel to run the machine If you think this is some pure and good vs evil fight for valor you are far more lost than we could have even imagined Are both sides equally bad? Is that your argument? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 6 hours ago, Coffeesforclosers said: Are both sides equally bad? Is that your argument? Yes, it's a boondoggle of corruption over there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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aristocrat Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 8 hours ago, Coffeesforclosers said: Are both sides equally bad? Is that your argument? One side does have actual nazis fighting for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, aristocrat said: One side does have actual nazis fighting for them Not anymore. After 8 years of war in the East, they're all dead, or wounded, or prisoners of war. But the Ukrainian Nazi movement, its history of WW2 collaboration with Hitler's SS, and current day presence, is an interesting topic. Something people that claim American white supremists lurking behind every bush and tree is the greatest domestic terror threat would like to ignore. If you want to experience real terror, I suggest riding the NYC subway system. Edited August 21, 2022 by All_Pro_Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 Botched Car Bombing in Moscow Could Have Major Implications in Ukraine https://redstate.com/bonchie/2022/08/21/auto-draft-63-n615357 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 21, 2022 Author Share Posted August 21, 2022 22 minutes ago, B-Man said: Botched Car Bombing in Moscow Could Have Major Implications in Ukraine https://redstate.com/bonchie/2022/08/21/auto-draft-63-n615357 Dead Nazi, oh my! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Dead Nazi, oh my! Wow. You really responded with that ? Read the article for God's sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 21, 2022 Author Share Posted August 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, B-Man said: Wow. You really responded with that ? Read the article for God's sake. Am I suppose to feel sorry for a dead Nazi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 25 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Am I suppose to feel sorry for a dead Nazi? You are indeed hopeless. For the rest of the board, Tibs is classifying the daughter of a Russian socialist as a "dead nazi". Sad. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 2 hours ago, B-Man said: You are indeed hopeless. For the rest of the board, Tibs is classifying the daughter of a Russian socialist as a "dead nazi". Sad. . Tibs is a hard-core ideologist and has no sympathy for the young women I suspect almost everyone, including myself, had never heard of before being killed in a failed assimilation attempt on her father. But you can bet your last penny the outrage meter will be at 10 when the Russians figure out who was behind it and take retribution. That's how ideologues work. They believe their own propaganda, and everything is black and white. Everything is right or wrong and they happen to be right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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B-Man Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 10 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Coward. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 22, 2022 Author Share Posted August 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, B-Man said: Coward. . How's that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ALF Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 'All of it is a lie': Russian paratrooper condemns his country's war in Ukraine Two weeks ago, Pavel Filatyev spoke out against the conflict in a 141-page-long testimony posted to his VKontakte social media page, then fled Russia. Now he tells CNN that his fellow troops as tired, hungry and disillusioned -- and that the Kremlin's war effort is "destroying peaceful lives." "We understood that we were dragged into a serious conflict where we are simply destroying towns and not actually liberating anyone," "Many understood that we do not see the reason that our government is trying to explain to us. That all of it is a lie," he said. "We are just destroying peaceful lives. This fact immensely influenced our morale. That feeling that we are not doing anything good." "Several days after we encircled Kherson many of us did not have any food, water or sleeping sacks on them," he said. "Because it was very cold at night, we couldn't even sleep. We would find some rubbish, some rags, just to wrap ourselves to keep warm." https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/22/europe/pavel-filatyev-ukraine-russia-paratrooper-interview-intl/index.html Car bomb kills daughter of 'spiritual guide' to Putin's Ukraine invasion - Russian media Dugina's father is a Russian author and ideologue, credited with being the architect or "spiritual guide" to Russia's invasion of Ukraine. https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/20/europe/darya-dugina-killed-car-explosion-alexander-dugin-russia-intl-hnk/index.html The car bomb likely a false flag to rally Russians to support Putin and his war that is going badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 8 hours ago, ALF said: The car bomb likely a false flag to rally Russians to support Putin and his war that is going badly. Wow. Conspiracy from Alf ? Meanwhile: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Yep this is a war between NATO and Russia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 22 hours ago, Tiberius said: Honesty is not a key attribute of any state intelligence agency. And the story spun by the FSB "investigators" sounds a little suspicious. Maybe these FSB agents putting together this story attended the same training course as those FBI agents that dreamed up that kidnapping conspiracy story to set up those guys in Michigan and then charge them with that phony kidnapping rap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 We're going to be at war by April 2024 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 4 hours ago, B-Man said: Wow. Conspiracy from Alf ? Meanwhile: No one has any idea what happened in Moscow , do you believe Putin ? Yes more funding to Ukraine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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B-Man Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 REMINDER: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 25, 2022 Author Share Posted August 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, B-Man said: REMINDER: There ya go. He's got an excuse ready made to let Putin, the genius, murder them all. "Let Germany take the lead!" Putin must of smiled hearing that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: There ya go. He's got an excuse ready made to let Putin, the genius, murder them all. "Let Germany take the lead!" Putin must of smiled hearing that Of course what Trump said in that link made perfect sense. The Ukraine is not a NATO ally. The US had no dependence on Russian crap. It is incredibly obvious that this was a European problem, yet their failure to stand up to it, borne of years of political flaccidity leads, once again, to the US taxpayer and debt writer handling it. Stating what is incredibly obvious to any objective observer is not an "excuse ready made," and being reluctant to commit US taxpayers to this European crap is not a bad thing for our leadership to consider. On a more serious note, recent analysis suggests that Putin has about eighteen months of financial reserves, and that the economy is on the verge of implosion. That is a far more illustrative indicator of what might happen. Frankly, the rat is cornered, and look out for the escape strategy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 25, 2022 Author Share Posted August 25, 2022 1 hour ago, sherpa said: Of course what Trump said in that link made perfect sense. The Ukraine is not a NATO ally. The US had no dependence on Russian crap. It is incredibly obvious that this was a European problem, yet their failure to stand up to it, borne of years of political flaccidity leads, once again, to the US taxpayer and debt writer handling it. Stating what is incredibly obvious to any objective observer is not an "excuse ready made," and being reluctant to commit US taxpayers to this European crap is not a bad thing for our leadership to consider. On a more serious note, recent analysis suggests that Putin has about eighteen months of financial reserves, and that the economy is on the verge of implosion. That is a far more illustrative indicator of what might happen. Frankly, the rat is cornered, and look out for the escape strategy. So glad Biden is president. Trump and your likes would have allowed genocide to happen and washed your hands with a laugh Pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 19 minutes ago, Tiberius said: So glad Biden is president. Trump and your likes would have allowed genocide to happen and washed your hands with a laugh Pathetic. Sure. You're not only a brilliant military tactician, a weapons expert, a knowledgeable strategist, but also able to predict what might have happened if others were in charge. You are a genius, or a political hack who knows nothing other than ill informed opinion.. I know where my bet would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 25, 2022 Author Share Posted August 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, sherpa said: Sure. You're not only a brilliant military tactician, a weapons expert, a knowledgeable strategist, but also able to predict what might have happened if others were in charge. You are a genius, or a political hack who knows nothing other than ill informed opinion.. I know where my bet would be. Thank God for humanity and democracy that Biden is President! The cause of free government took a big step forward with him winning against the Putin puppet criminal he defeated. Go ahead and insult me, I'll just count freedom's blessing that freedom is winning Glory to Ukraine!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 39 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Thank God for humanity and democracy that Biden is President! The cause of free government took a big step forward with him winning against the Putin puppet criminal he defeated. Go ahead and insult me, I'll just count freedom's blessing that freedom is winning Glory to Ukraine!! Get yourself a Biden T shirt from custom ink. Good company. I'm not insulting you or anyone, I simply don't think you have any idea about any of this, and are certainly incapable, as we all are, of guessing what would have happened under vastly different leadership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 25, 2022 Author Share Posted August 25, 2022 1 hour ago, sherpa said: Get yourself a Biden T shirt from custom ink. Good company. I'm not insulting you or anyone, I simply don't think you have any idea about any of this, and are certainly incapable, as we all are, of guessing what would have happened under vastly different leadership. So glad we helped the Ukraine! People like you were shrugging their shoulders saying don't do too much! Don't anger Trump's pal Putin. Disgusting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 50 minutes ago, Tiberius said: So glad we helped the Ukraine! People like you were shrugging their shoulders saying don't do too much! Don't anger Trump's pal Putin. Disgusting Ignorant. I never said anything of the sort. What I did do was post relevant, factual information of what is involved re establishing and maintaining a no fly zone, providing aviation assets that they have no way to use, maintain, or arm, and as background, not want to get into WWIII over this. It is not about angering Putin. It about having a clue about the reality of the situation, which is extremely complicated and fraught with peril, unlike your high school cheerleader level offerings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 25, 2022 Author Share Posted August 25, 2022 1 minute ago, sherpa said: Ignorant. I never said anything of the sort. What I did do was post relevant, factual information of what is involved re establishing and maintaining a no fly zone, providing aviation assets that they have no way to use, maintain, or arm, and as background, not want to get into WWIII over this. It is not about angering Putin. It about having a clue about the reality of the situation, which is extremely complicated and fraught with peril, unlike your high school cheerleader level offerings. Quiet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 CHRISTOPHER CALDWELL: Why Are We in Ukraine? Never has an official non-belligerent been more implicated in a war. Russia and its sympathizers assert that the U.S. attempt to turn Ukraine into an armed anti-Russian camp is what the war is about in the first place. Even those who dismiss this view will agree that the United States has made itself a central player in the conflict. It is pursuing a three-pronged strategy to defeat Russia through every means short of entering the war—which, of course, raises the risk that the United States will enter the war. One prong is the state-of-the-art weaponry it is supplying to Ukraine. Since June, thousands of computer-guided artillery rockets have been wreaking havoc behind Russian lines. A second prong is sanctions. With western European help, Washington has used its control of the choke points of the global marketplace to impoverish Russians, in hopes of punishing Russia. Finally, the U.S. seeks to rally the world’s peoples to a culture war against an enemy whose traditionalism, even if it does not constitute the whole of his evil, is at least a symbol of it. It would be foolish to bet against the United States, a mighty global hegemon with a military budget 12 times Russia’s. Yet something is going badly off track. Russia’s military tenacity was to be expected—bloodying and defeating more technologically advanced armies has been a hallmark of Russian civilization for 600 years. But the economic sanctions, far from bringing about the collapse Blinken gloated over, have driven up the price of the energy Russia sells, strengthened the ruble, and threatened America’s western European allies with frostbite, shortages, and recession. The culture war has found few proponents outside of the West’s richest latte neighborhoods. Indeed, cultural self-defense may be part of the reason India, China, and other rising countries have conspicuously declined to cut economic ties with the Russians. There have been signs for years that a new Iron Curtain was about to drop on the European continent. In 2008, the U.S. announced plans to bring certain non-Baltic republics of the former Soviet Union—notably Ukraine and Georgia—into NATO and the American sphere of influence. Should Ukraine prevail in this proxy war the U.S. will have succeeded, in a way. But it will have done so at an almost unspeakable price. It will have undermined the international economic architecture on which rests its control of global markets (and its ability to safely run government deficits). It will have carried out a shotgun wedding of Russia and China, forcing the most natural-resource-rich country on the planet into the arms of the West’s most dangerous adversary. Should Ukraine fail, the Ukraine policy of the Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden administrations will be counted among the significant foreign policy blunders in American history. Read the whole thing, https://claremontreviewofbooks.com/why-are-we-in-ukraine/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiberius Posted August 26, 2022 Author Share Posted August 26, 2022 Thank God Joe Biden won the 2020 election! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 22 minutes ago, Tiberius said: I've been to Binghamton a few times and if you also have, I think you'll agree there's not much going on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 26, 2022 Author Share Posted August 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: I've been to Binghamton a few times and if you also have, I think you'll agree there's not much going on there. True story, I think that when the Buffalo KKK went to that very meeting people broke into their office and stole their files and published in the local papers who the local members of the Klan were. The Klan died shortly thereafter https://www.amazon.com/Hooded-Knights-Niagara-Klux-Buffalo/dp/0814751024 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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