Democracy’s Fiery Ordeal: The War in Ukraine 🇺🇦

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Tiberius]

Nice 

[ALF]

Iran to send hundreds of drones to Russia for use in Ukraine, U.S. says
White House reveals Tehran’s plan to supply hardware, training for Russian forces

 

The planned delivery of unmanned aerial vehicles, or UAVs, disclosed by national security adviser Jake Sullivan at a White House briefing, could provide a significant boost to Moscow’s efforts to find and destroy Western-supplied artillery and other weapons systems that have slowed the advance of Russian troops in recent weeks.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/07/11/iran-drones-russia-ukraine/

[All_Pro_Bills]

2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Nice 

Did they mention why the 8 foreign ships needed an escort?

Edited July 12, 2022 by All_Pro_Bills

[Tiberius]

 

On 7/12/2022 at 12:10 PM, All_Pro_Bills said:

Did they mention why the 8 foreign ships needed an escort?

Putin? 

[Big Blitz]

Why hasn’t the Russian economy tanked yet? Putin has been preparing for this moment for years

 

 

Economists and world leaders believed that combined, the economic impact on the country relegate it to an economic pariah, ensure losses in the billions and perhaps even lead to a wholesale collapse of the country's financial system.

 

But that’s not quite how it worked out. 

Across Russia, signs have emerged that the country is adapting to global economic isolation better than most people anticipated. 

 

Russian businessmen have gobbled up western companies’ operations, like Siberian billionaire Alexander Govor’s purchase of McDonald’s 850 outlets across the country. Russian property developers, like MR Group are opening new shopping malls—simply sans western brands like H&M, Nike and Starbucks. 

 

https://fortune.com/2022/07/16/why-hasnt-the-russian-economy-collapsed-putin-oil-sanctions-ruble-china/

 

[Westside]

Is this skirmish still going on? 

[Tiberius]

 

 

 

[Tiberius]

 

 

 

[SoCal Deek]

On 7/16/2022 at 5:03 PM, Westside said:

Is this skirmish still going on? 

It’s not a skirmish…it’s a “minor incursion”. And don’t you forget it! 😉

[Westside]

1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

It’s not a skirmish…it’s a “minor incursion”. And don’t you forget it! 😉

Oops…….my bad😁

[Tiberius]

18 minutes ago, Westside said:

Oops…….my bad😁

Well, Putin's army is getting wrecked by Biden's weapons shipments  🇺🇸🇺🇦❤️

[ChiGoose]

2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Well, Putin's army is getting wrecked by Biden's weapons shipments  🇺🇸🇺🇦❤️

Don’t forget the Russian SAM site that shot itself. That was fun. 

[SoCal Deek]

5 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Well, Putin's army is getting wrecked by Biden's weapons shipments  🇺🇸🇺🇦❤️

So you're saying we're fighting a war against Russia? 

[Tiberius]

Just now, SoCal Deek said:

So you're saying we're fighting a war against Russia? 

Kind of looks that way. 
 

Sorry to break it to you, but we are winning. Don’t cry too hard 

[SoCal Deek]

Just now, Tiberius said:

Kind of looks that way. 
 

Sorry to break it to you, but we are winning. Don’t cry too hard 

I like winning. I just didn't know we were at war.  Good to know!  I'll start hording nylons and chocolate bars. 

[aristocrat]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukraines-zelenskiy-fires-spy-chief-063043759.html

 

STORY: Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelenskiy on Sunday fired the head of the country’s powerful domestic security agency, the SBU, and the top state prosecutor.

That’s because dozens of officials in their agencies were found to be collaborating with Russia in its invasion of Ukraine.

 

Corruption in Ukraine you say? 

[SoCal Deek]

2 hours ago, aristocrat said:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukraines-zelenskiy-fires-spy-chief-063043759.html

 

STORY: Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelenskiy on Sunday fired the head of the country’s powerful domestic security agency, the SBU, and the top state prosecutor.

That’s because dozens of officials in their agencies were found to be collaborating with Russia in its invasion of Ukraine.

 

Corruption in Ukraine you say? 

It’s not an invasion! It’s a minor incursion, dammit! Your entitled to your own set of facts but not to your own politically correct spin. 😉

[All_Pro_Bills]

 

 

2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Kind of looks that way. 
 

Sorry to break it to you, but we are winning. Don’t cry too hard 

First rule of war.  Don't believe your own propaganda.  Lots of dead civilians and soldiers would disagree with your assessment of "winning".  You should talk with some real life Ukrainians like I have such as my sister-in-law and her family along with people from their church we met while volunteering to help with aid packages and donations and get a different perspective than the ain't war great idea.  They also have a lot of insights and opinions of their government which differ greatly from the "democracy" story you're swallowing hook, line, and sinker.  You might want to ask yourself, "what do I really know?".  Not much really.

 

 

Edited July 18, 2022 by All_Pro_Bills

[Westside]

2 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

 

 

First rule of war.  Don't believe your own propaganda.  Lots of dead civilians and soldiers would disagree with your assessment of "winning".  You should talk with some real life Ukrainians like I have such as my sister-in-law and her family along with people from their church we met while volunteering to help with aid packages and donations and get a different perspective than the ain't war great idea.  They also have a lot of insights and opinions of their government which differ greatly from the "democracy" story you're swallowing hook, line, and sinker.  You might want to ask yourself, "what do I really know?".  Not much really.

 

 

You have to remember who your talking to, tibs has a real issue with what is true and what isn't. 

[Tiberius]

 

21 hours ago, aristocrat said:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukraines-zelenskiy-fires-spy-chief-063043759.html

 

STORY: Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelenskiy on Sunday fired the head of the country’s powerful domestic security agency, the SBU, and the top state prosecutor.

That’s because dozens of officials in their agencies were found to be collaborating with Russia in its invasion of Ukraine.

 

Corruption in Ukraine you say? 

And still they are winning. Ya, Putin bought people there just like he targeted NRA, GOP and people like Manafort 

[aristocrat]

9 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

 

And still they are winning. Ya, Putin bought people there just like he targeted NRA, GOP and people like Manafort 

 

And Ukraine bought Hunter who passed the cash to the big guy

[Tiberius]

4 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

 

And Ukraine bought Hunter who passed the cash to the big guy

😂

[B-Man]

 

 

 

Ukraine Cargo Plane Crashed in Greece Carrying 11 Tons of Bombs, Mortars and Landmines to Bangladesh

 

If I had to hazard a guess about what this was, I’d say it is most likely: (a) part of the massive Ukrainian stores of mortars and landmines in eastern Ukraine that were moved in order to keep the Russians from capturing them; or (b) the actual arms that were captured by Russian and then sold on the world arms market.

 

Either way, somehow, they end up as part of an arms deal from Serbia to Bangladesh. With the new and improved western weapons provided by the United States, Ukraine is likely upgrading and selling their old weapons to various nefarious arms dealers. This shipment happened to crash

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11021799/Ukrainian-cargo-plane-crashed-Greece-carrying-11-TONS-mortar-land-mines.html

 

 

 

 

[Tiberius]

38 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

Ukraine Cargo Plane Crashed in Greece Carrying 11 Tons of Bombs, Mortars and Landmines to Bangladesh

 

If I had to hazard a guess about what this was, I’d say it is most likely: (a) part of the massive Ukrainian stores of mortars and landmines in eastern Ukraine that were moved in order to keep the Russians from capturing them; or (b) the actual arms that were captured by Russian and then sold on the world arms market.

 

Either way, somehow, they end up as part of an arms deal from Serbia to Bangladesh. With the new and improved western weapons provided by the United States, Ukraine is likely upgrading and selling their old weapons to various nefarious arms dealers. This shipment happened to crash

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11021799/Ukrainian-cargo-plane-crashed-Greece-carrying-11-TONS-mortar-land-mines.html

 

 

 

 

Hazard a guess? The most pro-Russian/Putin guess that can be made? 

[Westside]

1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

Hazard a guess? The most pro-Russian/Putin guess that can be made? 

I think we need to check hunters laptop first.

[Tiberius]

19 minutes ago, Westside said:

I think we need to check hunters laptop first.

Because you have nothing else, right? 

 

It's kind of sad how bankrupt in ideas you clowns are. 

 

Sh it in, sh it out, I guess 

[SoCal Deek]

4 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Hazard a guess? The most pro-Russian/Putin guess that can be made? 

How is that pro Putin? Might I suggest you pick a rifle and go join in the struggle? You seem utterly fixated on it. Which you’re free to do, but it seems a tad first-world when done from the bleachers! 

[Tiberius]

2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

How is that pro Putin? Mht I suggest you pick a rifle and go join in the struggle? You seem utterly fixated on it. Which you’re free to do, but it seems a tad first-world when done from the bleachers! 

It's a smear of Ukraine with no evidence, not that your ignorant ass cares. 

 

Yup, free to do 

[SoCal Deek]

4 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

It's a smear of Ukraine with no evidence, not that your ignorant ass cares. 

 

Yup, free to do 

Wrong Tibs. War is supposed to be horrific. It’s why the civilized world should try so hard to avoid it all costs. When it’s reduced to you sitting in your recliner, sacrificing NOTHING, while actual people are being killed and thousands of families are left homeless then it becomes a distant video game…not a war! Hey President Biden, how about doing some diplomacy and stopping this thing! How about that? Important trip to Saudi Arabia my arse. 

[Tiberius]

25 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Wrong Tibs. War is supposed to be horrific. It’s why the civilized world should try so hard to avoid it all costs. When it’s reduced to you sitting in your recliner, sacrificing NOTHING, while actual people are being killed and thousands of families are left homeless then it becomes a distant video game…not a war! Hey President Biden, how about doing some diplomacy and stopping this thing! How about that? Important trip to Saudi Arabia my arse. 

Glory to Ukraine! Smash those fascists! 

 

So glad there are more people like he than like you. I complain about fascism, you get all bent out of shape by people hating on fascist. You are a sad pathetic person 

 

Spit 

[SoCal Deek]

22 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Glory to Ukraine! Smash those fascists! 

 

So glad there are more people like he than like you. I complain about fascism, you get all bent out of shape by people hating on fascist. You are a sad pathetic person 

 

Spit 

Odd immature response from someone presumably sitting on the other side of the planet. When the foreign bought bombs start dropping on WNY, I’m going to trust you’ll feel the same way. Clueless! 

[Tiberius]

54 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Odd immature response from someone presumably sitting on the other side of the planet. When the foreign bought bombs start dropping on WNY, I’m going to trust you’ll feel the same way. Clueless! 

This is all so dumb. So, how many unwanted children have you adopted, Mr. Pro-Life? 

 

Did you sign up for Iraq when your Bush sent the troops there to, well, whatever it is they were doing? Or do you lie now and say you didn't support Bush's war? 

 

Are you a veteran? 

[SoCal Deek]

41 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

This is all so dumb. So, how many unwanted children have you adopted, Mr. Pro-Life? 

 

Did you sign up for Iraq when your Bush sent the troops there to, well, whatever it is they were doing? Or do you lie now and say you didn't support Bush's war? 

 

Are you a veteran? 

Nice try Tibs. You're zealous appetite for a foreign conflict is positively ghoulish!

(By the way, I didn't approve of Bush's war either.)

(And adopting other people's kids is not the intent of the pro-life movement.)

[Tiberius]

59 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Nice try Tibs. You're zealous appetite for a foreign conflict is positively ghoulish!

(By the way, I didn't approve of Bush's war either.)

(And adopting other people's kids is not the intent of the pro-life movement.)

I don't believe you. All you right wingers say you didn't support it. 

 

You literally are complaining I support an army trying to save a nation from enslavement. You are a POS 

 

 

This is funny 

 

 

[Tiberius]

Oh no! Helping a country fight for its liberties?? That makes them warmongers! "Bow down and surrender to fascism!"  They scream like the filthy, pathetic trolls they are 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

[SoCal Deek]

10 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Oh no! Helping a country fight for its liberties?? That makes them warmongers! "Bow down and surrender to fascism!"  They scream like the filthy, pathetic trolls they are 

 

 

Tibs, pretty much the entire world supports Ukraine. That’s not the issue. The problem is that there’s nobody trying to stop this. All we have are kids on the playground surrounding the bully and the victim screaming and cheering them on. Where’s the adult? Who’s going to step in, pull them apart, and break it up? This has gone on way more than long enough. It’s past time to send everyone to the Principal’s Office. 
 

This reference is going to be a bit wonky but I urge you to watch an episode from the original Star Trek series called “A Taste of Armageddon”. (I remembered the story but had to look up the title.)

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said:

Tibs, pretty much the entire world supports Ukraine. That’s not the issue. The problem is that there’s nobody trying to stop this. All we have are kids on the playground surrounding the bully and the victim screaming and cheering them on. Where’s the adult? Who’s going to step in, pull them apart, and break it up? This has gone on way more than long enough. It’s past time to send everyone to the Principal’s Office. 
 

This reference is going to be a bit wonky but I urge you to watch an episode from the original Star Trek series called “A Taste of Armageddon”. (I remembered the story but had to look up the title.)

What? 

[Tiberius]