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Democracy’s Fiery Ordeal: The War in Ukraine 🇺🇦


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31 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

 

I guess it’s ok to cross that sacred line and call him a Hitler now 

 

The object is to stop the killing and get to a ceasefire.

Labelling someone a war criminal while the confrontation goes on doesn't move that ball forward.

Stop he killing and worry about prosecution later.

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9 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

The object is to stop the killing and get to a ceasefire.

Labelling someone a war criminal while the confrontation goes on doesn't move that ball forward.

Stop he killing and worry about prosecution later.

I don't know why our leadership is pushing so hard to start WW3.  Perhaps they want some sort of "New World Order" and think this is the best way to get it started.

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12 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

The object is to stop the killing and get to a ceasefire.

Labelling someone a war criminal while the confrontation goes on doesn't move that ball forward.

Stop he killing and worry about prosecution later.

Oh sure. So every time the press asks a leader if war crimes are being committed they are suppose to ignore the blatantly obvious fact they are and look like idiots and defer from answering? Nope 

 

 

Though...I was at the Wilson Center in Washington for a conference on the Cold War and made the great point that when we announced the Nuremberg indictments before Japan had surrendered it was a factor in them not surrendering because they assumed the Emperor would be put on trial. Perhaps Nuremberg was a factor in the A-Bomb being used. 

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19 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

The object is to stop the killing and get to a ceasefire.

Labelling someone a war criminal while the confrontation goes on doesn't move that ball forward.

Stop he killing and worry about prosecution later.


i can only guess the hope is it will deter those who aren’t yet able to be considered war criminals to rethink their next orders.

 

on the other hand it might reinvigorate the Russians into needing a win as they only way out… 

3 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Oh sure. So every time the press asks a leader if war crimes are being committed they are suppose to ignore the blatantly obvious fact they are and look like idiots and defer from answering? Nope 

 

 

Though...I was at the Wilson Center in Washington for a conference on the Cold War and made the great point that when we announced the Nuremberg indictments before Japan had surrendered it was a factor in them not surrendering because they assumed the Emperor would be put on trial. Perhaps Nuremberg was a factor in the A-Bomb being used. 


the A bomb was also…. Wait for it….. a war crime 

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3 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:


i can only guess the hope is it will deter those who aren’t yet able to be considered war criminals to rethink their next orders.

 

on the other hand it might reinvigorate the Russians into needing a win as they only way out… 


the A bomb was also…. Wait for it….. a war crime 

Disagree. It stopped a war that was killing, starving and displacing thousands each day. It did actually save lives. 

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10 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Oh sure. So every time the press asks a leader if war crimes are being committed they are suppose to ignore the blatantly obvious fact they are and look like idiots and defer from answering? Nope 

 

 

Though...I was at the Wilson Center in Washington for a conference on the Cold War and made the great point that when we announced the Nuremberg indictments before Japan had surrendered it was a factor in them not surrendering because they assumed the Emperor would be put on trial. Perhaps Nuremberg was a factor in the A-Bomb being used. 

 

Did you not get the memo? Biden is supposed to send Putin love letters.

 

duh

 

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9 hours ago, ALF said:

 

For one just look in the mirror.

Come on dude, you are better than this. Nobody is saying Putin is a good guy here.

3 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

Did you not get the memo? Biden is supposed to send Putin love letters.

 

duh

 

 

Just now, Tiberius said:

We are not showing Putin enough respect! 

Are you two off to fight in the Foreign Legion of Territorial Defense of Ukraine?  

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Sure the killing should stop as soon as possible, and both sides should return to status quo ante bellum.  A permanent reduction in Ukraine's ability to defend itself or any additional compromises to it's sovereignty should be off the table.  Russia should be allowed to pack up it's ball and go home.

 

...unless they think they're going to win, then all of this is just bull#### to score political points while they try to un***** their own mess.

 

 

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