SoCal Deek Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 2 hours ago, BillStime said: Did you ask if we could afford Trump’s tax cut? The Trump wall? Trumps hundreds and hundreds of millions of tax dollars to Trump properties and non stop golfing at his private resorts? Oh no - you didn’t? Of course not. But YOU are paying for it - we all are - but not the top 1%. Trumpholes 247365 When YOU start paying for this stuff, please get back to me. Until then, please keep your Trump fixation to yourself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 On 10/5/2021 at 11:50 AM, B-Man said: No. and neither will a 3.5 trillion giveaway...............as you are aware foolish comparison. Very. Also, we can ALWAYS afford a tax cut. Less government confiscation of people’s money is a good thing. Less spending is what needs to be the focus. Calling a 3.5 Trillion sham” infrastructure “ bill paid for is complete nonsense, when the government borrows half of each dollar it spends to begin with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 14 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: When YOU start paying for this stuff, please get back to me. Until then, please keep your Trump fixation to yourself. HA - everyone should pay their fair share bro but we all know YOU and your cult are willing pawns for millionaire and billionaires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, BillStime said: HA - everyone should pay their fair share bro but we all know YOU and your cult are willing pawns for millionaire and billionaires. Wrong....loser. I'm one of the ones paying for it all. When you get to that status, please get back to me. Until then STFU. Edited October 6, 2021 by SoCal Deek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 30 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Wrong....loser. I'm one of the ones paying for it all. When you get to that status, please get back to me. Until then STFU. HA - so obnoxious - I pay taxes in several states and federal. Keep being a pawn for millionaires and billionaires who pay none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, BillStime said: HA - so obnoxious - I pay taxes in several states and federal. Keep being a pawn for millionaires and billionaires who pay none. If and when you ever actually become a millionaire, get back to me. Until then stop trying to tell ME what I should pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 I love the balanced budget talk I've seen on here from both sides. Here is a good overview of our nation's tax structure, and who pays what. https://www.pgpf.org/budget-basics/who-pays-taxes This website also gives some really great insights into what federal spending means to our long term economic future. Please give it a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: If and when you ever actually become a millionaire, get back to me. Until then stop trying to tell ME what I should pay. So triggered - lmao - I don’t have to tell you to pay taxes - lmao - your guy is doing it for me. Sucks being called out and upstaged by your own party and the “King of Debt” who promised to reduce the national debt — then made it surge with his signature legislation - tax cuts that made it surge to the third-biggest deficit increase of any president. Congrats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Here is the breakdown of who is paying what today: https://www.pgpf.org/budget-basics/who-pays-taxes THE U.S. TAX SYSTEM IS PROGRESSIVE As a whole, the U.S. tax code remains progressive — with higher-income taxpayers paying a greater share of their income in taxes. That is true despite the fact that high-income Americans benefit disproportionately from tax breaks, otherwise known as tax expenditures. Major tax expenditures — such as lower rates on capital gains and dividends, deductions for charitable contributions, and deductions for state and local taxes — tend to benefit higher-income taxpayers more than lower-income groups. CBO estimates that the top quintile of taxpayers receive 51 percent of the value of major tax expenditures, while only 8 percent goes to the bottom quintile. However, even with substantial tax expenditures, the top one percent of American taxpayers still pay an effective tax rate of 29 percent, on average, while the bottom 20 percent of the population pay an average of 3 percent. TPC estimates that 68 percent of taxes collected for 2019 came from those in the top quintile, or those earning an income above $163,600 annually. Within this group, the top one percent of income earners — those earning more than $818,700 per year — will contribute over one-quarter of all federal revenues collected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 9 minutes ago, BillStime said: So triggered - lmao - I don’t have to tell you to pay taxes - lmao - your guy is doing it for me. Sucks being called out and upstaged by your own party and the “King of Debt” who promised to reduce the national debt — then made it surge with his signature legislation - tax cuts that made it surge to the third-biggest deficit increase of any president. Congrats You have to be most naive person in America. Keep dreaming of your future utopia. You’ll still be a loser. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 1 hour ago, BillStime said: HA - so obnoxious - I pay taxes in several states and federal. Keep being a pawn for millionaires and billionaires who pay none. Your position here is based on a political fallacy. That fallacy being that Republicans solidly support the wealthy and Democrats oppose the wealthy in support of the middle and working class "little people". But if you look at a list of the largest political donors the list is split pretty evenly between the two parties. So the truth is both parties are beholden to the wealthy millionaire and billionaire campaign and party donor class. And neither is likely to present and enact any tax proposals that do meaningful harm to their largest donors. No biting the hand that feeds you is allowed in the world of big campaign donors. This perceived difference in the party candidates is one of the illusions created by the 1% and the political class. it provides the voters a false option that there is some fundamental difference between candidates. Rarely is this true. The other truth is they continue to fool most voters of both parties the fight between each other 100% of the time on a 5% difference between the core interests the major political parties. https://www.opensecrets.org/elections-overview/biggest-donors?cycle=2020&view=fc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 48 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: You have to be most naive person in America. Keep dreaming of your future utopia. You’ll still be a loser. Says a 2x Trump voter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Just now, BillStime said: Says a 2x Trump voter Im still winning and you’re still losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Just now, SoCal Deek said: Im still winning and you’re still losing. You lost ages ago - that’s why you’re so triggered by just about everything I post. You hate yourself and hate that your savior Jesus Trump is a failure too. Have a great day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 1 minute ago, BillStime said: You lost ages ago - that’s why you’re so triggered by just about everything I post. You hate yourself and hate that your savior Jesus Trump is a failure too. Have a great day And still…..I’m still winning and you’ll always be a loser. Enjoy your day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backintheday544 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/biden-senate-mull-changing-filibuster-ahead-debt-ceiling-vote-n1280913 McConnell says he will not block a vote on the debt ceiling. McConnell is a bit not truthful in how he discusses this. He wants a limit raised by Dems. If he ends the filibuster in any debt fueling bill, then that bill can be passed solely by Dems. So McConnell using the filibuster is the only thing ever holding this bill up. McConnell could just end a filibuster and the Dems would happily pass the bill without Republican support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 7, 2021 Author Share Posted October 7, 2021 The politicians have now ensured people will pay attention to them until December now when --don't scream--we might have another financial catastrophe!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: The politicians have now ensured people will pay attention to them until December now when --don't scream--we might have another financial catastrophe!! You have to agree that NONE of these people are working for the American people anymore. They're all just jockeying for position and trying to get re-elected to save their own jobs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 On 10/7/2021 at 9:05 AM, Tiberius said: The politicians have now ensured people will pay attention to them until December now when --don't scream--we might have another financial catastrophe!! I laughed when I heard this because it is all so predictable. Finally at the last minute they reach a deal or whatever to keep the money flowing for another 2 months. In a month and a half there will be much hand wringing and doomsday predictions and the donkey team blaming the elephant team and vice versa until at the last minute a deal will be reached. There's an election in 13 months and this makes for good fund raising. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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