Stake your position on abortion

[sherpa]

Without getting into one of the most contentious issues of our time, I do know one thing.

When my wife informed me she was pregnant, each time, we considered it "life."

[T master]

On 9/4/2021 at 4:00 AM, Thurmal34 said:

The hypocrisy is on point - my body my choice - oh, wait. 

So many idiots. I stand with women. 
 

Imagine the government telling someone what to do with their bodies?

 

 

 

 

As a man of which i do identify as i would not tell a women what to do or force a decision on them but my personal opinion is if there is a heart beat it is a living being and i would hope that a person wouldn't decide to end that life .

 

That being said i would not judge them because there is only one that will judge and we will all stand in judgement one day for our own personal decisions and personal choice is all part of consequences we all will have to face .

 

Lastly  i take it that "my body my choice" &  "Imagine the gov't telling someone what to do with their body" your not for covid mandates ?? Inquiring minds want to know .

 

Or is that part of the hypocrisy being on point ? 🤔

[B-Man]

 

God bless them.

 

Edited November 11, 2021 by B-Man

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

[JaCrispy]

I’m against it, personally...but there are too many gray areas to feel comfortable with the government intervening...

 

Edited December 1, 2021 by JaCrispy

[Tiberius]

On 10/31/2021 at 8:31 AM, sherpa said:

Without getting into one of the most contentious issues of our time, I do know one thing.

When my wife informed me she was pregnant, each time, we considered it "life."

Nice to have the freedom of choice, right? 

[sherpa]

58 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Nice to have the freedom of choice, right? 

 

Our judgement had nothing to do with "choice."

It had to do with judging what my wife was carrying was a life, and we treated them that way.

[\GoBillsInDallas/]

On 9/1/2021 at 10:33 PM, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Stake your position on abortion

 

The Sabres have been an abortion for the past 11 years.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

18 minutes ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said:

 

The Sabres have been an abortion for the past 11 years.

Them not existing would be better for everyone involved 

[B-Man]

 

 

CHRIS QUEEN: 10 Things You Need to Know About Today’s Oral Arguments in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization.

 

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/chris-queen/2021/12/01/10-things-you-need-to-know-about-todays-oral-arguments-in-dobbs-v-jackson-womens-health-organization-n1538007

 

 

 

[Tiberius]

16 hours ago, sherpa said:

 

Our judgement had nothing to do with "choice."

It had to do with judging what my wife was carrying was a life, and we treated them that way.

Judging, i.e. making a decision. Again, it's nice to have a choice 

 

 

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This is an attack on poor women. Typical GOP politics, kicking poor people around makes them feel good 

[SoCal Deek]

3 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Judging, i.e. making a decision. Again, it's nice to have a choice 

Tibs…there are many things in life you have a choice about…essentially everything. That’s not the issue. 

[Tiberius]

Quote

Democrats immediately signaled they would aim to make abortion rights a central focus in next year’s midterm elections, where their prospects have been viewed as dim, while many Republicans sought to keep the focus on inflation and other problems facing President Biden.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/supreme-court-roe-politics/2021/12/01/49b7e4c4-52d8-11ec-9267-17ae3bde2f26_story.html

1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said:

Tibs…there are many things in life you have a choice about…essentially everything. That’s not the issue. 

Yes it is. Do you have options or not? You are wrong 

[SoCal Deek]

1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/supreme-court-roe-politics/2021/12/01/49b7e4c4-52d8-11ec-9267-17ae3bde2f26_story.html

Yes it is. Do you have options or not? You are wrong 

No it’s not! Nobody’s taking away your choice. The issue is whether society will administer consequences for making what’s been ruled to be the wrong one. 

[ALF]

I don't think the SC wants to be blamed by half of the country to rule one way or the other. They don't want to take the place of a law Congress should deal with but never has just talk.

 

I think they will leave it up to each State to decide what to do, ruling in June.    jmo

[Tiberius]

5 minutes ago, ALF said:

I don't think the SC wants to be blamed by half of the country to rule one way or the other. They don't want to take the place of a law Congress should deal with but never has just talk.

 

I think they will leave it up to each State to decide what to do, ruling in June.    jmo

Yup, it will become a huge issue in elections all across the country. Abortion politics will be front and center now 

[Westside]

1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

Judging, i.e. making a decision. Again, it's nice to have a choice 

 

 

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This is an attack on poor women. Typical GOP politics, kicking poor people around makes them feel good 

What you’re doing is a scare tactic. But you already know that.

[Tiberius]

Just now, Westside said:

What you’re doing is a scare tactic. But you already know that.

No, this will really hurt poor women. No doubt about that. Not that you care 

[B-Man]

 

 

It's Time for the Supreme Court to Let States Protect Their Unborn Children

 

 

By Alison Centofante

 

https://townhall.com/columnists/alisoncentofante/2021/12/02/its-time-for-the-supreme-court-to-let-states-protect-their-unborn-children-n2599858

 

 

 

 

[Tiberius]

6 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

It's Time for the Supreme Court to Let States Protect Their Unborn Children

 

 

By Alison Centofante

 

https://townhall.com/columnists/alisoncentofante/2021/12/02/its-time-for-the-supreme-court-to-let-states-protect-their-unborn-children-n2599858

 

 

 

 

But only of poor mothers, The rich and middle class women can just go get an abortion across state lines. 

[B-Man]

Reading the room: Observers agree Supreme Court looks poised for a major change on Roe

by John Sexton

 

https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2021/12/01/reading-the-room-observers-agree-supreme-court-looks-poised-for-a-major-change-on-roe-n432572

 

 

 

 

Supreme Court Justice Thomas Rocks Pro-Abortion Lawyers With Tough Opening Questions

by Eric Thompson

 

https://trendingpolitics.com/boom-supreme-court-justice-clarence-thomas-terrifies-pro-abortion-left-with-one-opening-question-ethom/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Big Blitz]

Just now, B-Man said:

Reading the room: Observers agree Supreme Court looks poised for a major change on Roe

by John Sexton

 

https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2021/12/01/reading-the-room-observers-agree-supreme-court-looks-poised-for-a-major-change-on-roe-n432572

 

 

 

 

Supreme Court Justice Thomas Rocks Pro-Abortion Lawyers With Tough Opening Questions

by Eric Thompson

 

https://trendingpolitics.com/boom-supreme-court-justice-clarence-thomas-terrifies-pro-abortion-left-with-one-opening-question-ethom/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just something about my body my choice I can't take seriously anymore.

 

Not that I ever did.  

[Tiberius]

5 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

 

Just something about my body my choice I can't take seriously anymore.

 

Not that I ever did.  

Right, what do you care? 

[Tiberius]

10 minutes ago, B-Man said:

Reading the room: Observers agree Supreme Court looks poised for a major change on Roe

by John Sexton

 

https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2021/12/01/reading-the-room-observers-agree-supreme-court-looks-poised-for-a-major-change-on-roe-n432572

 

 

 

 

Supreme Court Justice Thomas Rocks Pro-Abortion Lawyers With Tough Opening Questions

by Eric Thompson

 

https://trendingpolitics.com/boom-supreme-court-justice-clarence-thomas-terrifies-pro-abortion-left-with-one-opening-question-ethom/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lol, The minority court, representing a minority of the country basically about to impose its will on the nation. Sad. 

 

Mississippi setting domestic policy, lol 

[Tiberius]

Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor said it better than any of the court’s external critics. "Will this institution survive the stench this creates in the public perception, that the Constitution and its reading are just political acts?” she asked during oral arguments on Mississippi’s abortion law on Wednesday. “If people believe this is all politics, how will we survive? How will this court survive?”

[SoCal Deek]

12 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Lol, The minority court, representing a minority of the country basically about to impose its will on the nation. Sad. 

 

Mississippi setting domestic policy, lol 

That’s the exact OPPOSITE of what this is about. This entire hearing and pending ruling is return the decision to the people. It doesn’t dictate anything! Sheeesh

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said:

That’s the exact OPPOSITE of what this is about. This entire hearing and pending ruling is return the decision to the people. It doesn’t dictate anything! Sheeesh

Nope, the states are not the people. Fundamental rights guaranteed by the constitution are not open for states to oppress 

[Westside]

2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

No, this will really hurt poor women. No doubt about that. Not that you care 

Not that you actually care. 

[Tiberius]

Just now, Westside said:

Not that you actually care. 

Background checks for guns are an attack on gun buyers rights. 

But women can't make choices over their own bodies

 

The "pro-life" movement is such a fraud 

[Westside]

Just now, Tiberius said:

Background checks for guns are an attack on gun buyers rights. 

But women can't make choices over their own bodies

 

The "pro-life" movement is such a fraud 

The pro vaccine movement is an even bigger fraud. And you posing as a liberal when you’re actually a Marxist makes you a fraud. 
Go ahead, keep saying how much you care about people as you spew your hateful venom. 

[Tiberius]

3 minutes ago, Westside said:

The pro vaccine movement is an even bigger fraud. And you posing as a liberal when you’re actually a Marxist makes you a fraud. 
Go ahead, keep saying how much you care about people as you spew your hateful venom. 

Marxist? You should see my capitalist investments. 

 

Vaccine's save lives. How dare people are made to get something that saves other people's lives! It's so much easier than being forced to carry a baby for 9 months

[Westside]

Just now, Tiberius said:

Marxist? You should see my capitalist investments. 

 

Vaccine's save lives. How dare people are made to get something that saves other people's lives! It's so much easier than being forced to carry a baby for 9 months

Your investments are like your IQ, low.

My body, my choice.

[Tiberius]

3 minutes ago, Westside said:

Your investments are like your IQ, low.

My body, my choice.

You are ignorant. Why would you make a definitive statement about something you know knowing about? 

 

Mr. Definitive! You talk out your butt. 

 

Your body your choice? That apply to women, too? 

[B-Man]

 

Enough hysteria.

 

 

Back to the actual news about the hearings.

 

 

Justice Alito made Bidens Solicitor General defend Plessy v Fergususon (Separate But Equal)

 

https://thefederalist.com/2021/12/01/justice-alito-made-bidens-solicitor-general-defend-racist-scotus-precedent-plessy/

 

[Big Blitz]

1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

Nope, the states are not the people. Fundamental rights guaranteed by the constitution are not open for states to oppress 

 

 

Omg 

 

The States exist for exactly this purpose when the Founders said "to the States" they literally mean to the people....of said state.  With a deliberate intention of the National Government specifically the Executive branch to be the exact opposite of what it is and abused to be now.  

 

That's exactly what Federalism is intended for.

 

The interests of the communists in New York, who will instantly legalize abortion on demand the second Roe is overturned and left to the states and keeps you in masks in perpetuity, are not the same interests as the freedom loving people of Florida.  

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

Framing the Abortion Argument

Thoughts on yesterday's oral argument

DAVID POST 

 

It was an absorbing two hours of oral argument - well-argued by the lawyers, and a very engaged and well-prepared bench.  Like Super Bowl matchups, arguments in the Big Cases often disappoint, given the huge buildup beforehand; this one, however, did not - to my ears, anyway.  [If you missed the proceedings, the full audio is available here, and the official transcript here]

 

{snip}

 

FWIW, my personal prediction is that the Court will not overrule Roe and/or Casey, at least insofar as there will be five votes to re-affirm the existence of a due-process-protected right to decide whether to terminate one's pregnancy. Justice Roberts will succeed at getting persuading at least one of the post-Casey Justices to join in his opinion, which will confirm the existence of the right while simultaneously discarding the "viability" standard for determining when the State's countervailing interest in the life of the fetus arises and giving States more leeway in defining the timing of their prohibitions. Just a guess.

 

 

 

https://reason.com/volokh/2021/12/02/framing-the-abortion-argument/

 

 

 

[SoCal Deek]

2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Nope, the states are not the people. Fundamental rights guaranteed by the constitution are not open for states to oppress 

The people in each state will get to vote on the issue.  You have literally no idea how this country works at all.

[Tiberius]

1 hour ago, B-Man said:

 

Enough hysteria.

 

 

Back to the actual news about the hearings.

 

 

Justice Alito made Bidens Solicitor General defend Plessy v Fergususon (Separate But Equal)

 

https://thefederalist.com/2021/12/01/justice-alito-made-bidens-solicitor-general-defend-racist-scotus-precedent-plessy/

 

Plessy? What does Plessy have to do with women getting health care services they need? How stupid. 

 

This court, as currently composed of right wing hacks, is a disgrace. They neither represent the will of the people or the idea of faithfully upholding the rule of law. 

1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Omg 

 

The States exist for exactly this purpose when the Founders said "to the States" they literally mean to the people....of said state.  With a deliberate intention of the National Government specifically the Executive branch to be the exact opposite of what it is and abused to be now.  

 

That's exactly what Federalism is intended for.

 

The interests of the communists in New York, who will instantly legalize abortion on demand the second Roe is overturned and left to the states and keeps you in masks in perpetuity, are not the same interests as the freedom loving people of Florida.  

 

 

Oh, now New York is communist? You are a complete idiot 

[Big Blitz]

43 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Plessy? What does Plessy have to do with women getting health care services they need? How stupid. 

 

This court, as currently composed of right wing hacks, is a disgrace. They neither represent the will of the people or the idea of faithfully upholding the rule of law. 

Oh, now New York is communist? You are a complete idiot 

 

 

I mean the city of Buffalo was on the brink of an actual socialist being mayor. 

 

And yes.  It's communist.  

 

[Irv]

I think Demented Biden and his communist buddies will botch any ruling.  That being said, there should be no abortions past the first trimester unless the mother's life is at risk or the baby will be stillborn.  On the other hand no women should be forced to have a baby after she has been raped.  No way.