Tiberius Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 4 hours ago, Big Blitz said: Yes. So Ted admits abortion is wrong and a sin. Just wants to make sure all mortal sinners are treated equal. Thanks Ted. Appreciate it. I'll have the Bishops look into those 3 guys as soon as I can. Btw did Newt get an annulment? Does he even go to mass? Why should I care Ted? Good. Too bad Conservatives don’t try and follow the churches teaching on that and try and stamp out this sin. Why doesnt the Church go after that sin? Why no protests at late night drug stores that sell condoms? And these Catholic Supreme Court people with just a couple children. I bet they are usin* birth control. Sinners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Buffalo Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Good. Too bad Conservatives don’t try and follow the churches teaching on that and try and stamp out this sin. Why doesnt the Church go after that sin? Why no protests at late night drug stores that sell condoms? And these Catholic Supreme Court people with just a couple children. I bet they are usin* birth control. Sinners I think the Church should consider separating the sins into some categories. Maybe call one mortal sins and the other group venial sins. The mortal sins could be for really bad things and the lesser sins could be for smaller much more common ones. Maybe if we did that then countries could set up judiciary systems with similar idea of felonies and misdemeanors. Your shallow thought process misunderstands what it means to be Catholic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 48 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: I think the Church should consider separating the sins into some categories. Maybe call one mortal sins and the other group venial sins. The mortal sins could be for really bad things and the lesser sins could be for smaller much more common ones. Maybe if we did that then countries could set up judiciary systems with similar idea of felonies and misdemeanors. Your shallow thought process misunderstands what it means to be Catholic. I think the church should just keep their hypocrisy out of our politics. The fact they kept birth control illegal for decades is just an example of the victory of ignorance over common decency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted June 21, 2021 Author Share Posted June 21, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: Good. Too bad Conservatives don’t try and follow the churches teaching on that and try and stamp out this sin. Why doesnt the Church go after that sin? Why no protests at late night drug stores that sell condoms? And these Catholic Supreme Court people with just a couple children. I bet they are usin* birth control. Sinners The Church doesn't talk about this enough because you're correct. My guess is over 75-85% of Catholics use birth control. The Church, in my opinion, has not done a good enough job (especially at their private schools that are allegedly Catholic) teaching about the alternatives and what it is they endorse. Which for any Catholic here I encourage you to research Natural Family Planning. Wife and I have been using this for 20 years. 4 planned kids. PM if you have any questions or want more info. Edited June 21, 2021 by Big Blitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 BINGO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 On 6/20/2021 at 10:14 PM, BillStime said: BINGO The US public education system has a much higher rate of offenders/offenses than does the Catholic Church. Our Roman friends have their issues, but every neopagan loser shrieking about pedophiles in the church sure does love their drag queen story hour and public edumacation. Really makes ya wonder about what they're actually upset about, because it sure isn't raping kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Just now, LeviF said: The US public education system has a much higher rate of offenders/offenses than does the Catholic Church. Our Roman friends have their issues, but every neopagan loser shrieking about pedophiles in the church sure does love their drag queen story hour and public edumacation. Really makes ya wonder about what they're actually upset about, because it sure isn't raping kids. STOP - stop making excuses... the Catholic cult should be shut down due to these heinous acts. Absolutely appalling.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Just now, BillStime said: STOP - stop making excuses... the Catholic cult should be shut down due to these heinous acts. Absolutely appalling.. Well if you apply that logic to each institution with a pedophile issue I'm on board. Shut down the papists, public education, and Hollywood. The rest we can ferret out later. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 On 6/20/2021 at 10:14 PM, BillStime said: BINGO 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 https://thefederalist.com/2021/06/22/u-s-catholic-bishops-arent-playing-politics-with-communion-biden-is/ U.S. Catholic Bishops Aren’t Playing Politics With Communion, Biden Is Should President Joe Biden, a professing Catholic, be allowed to receive Holy Communion despite his ongoing support for abortion? Of course not. The entire question is a fake controversy ginned up by corporate media hell-bent on smearing Catholic bishops and faithful Catholics everywhere. Those feigning outrage over the idea that Biden would be denied communion are really just outraged by the church’s moral teaching on abortion, and want to change it. For them, as for Biden himself, this isn’t about religion but politics. The rather narrow question of whether Biden should be allowed to receive communion is not at all complex or unclear. But Biden’s defenders in the press, and even some inside the episcopacy, are making it seem as though it were. All Catholics know, or should know, that they are not supposed to present themselves for communion if they are objectively in a state of mortal sin. Supporting abortion — or otherwise dissenting from or promoting contrary positions to the Catholic Church’s fundamental dogmatic teaching — puts one in a state of mortal sin. Therefore, politicians who support abortion shouldn’t present themselves for communion, period. You don’t have to take my word for it. Back in 2004, then-Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, who later became Pope Benedict XVI, wrote a memo entitled, “Worthiness to Receive Holy Communion: General Principles.” The letter was prompted by the presidential candidacy of then-Sen. John Kerry, a Catholic like Biden who insisted that his ongoing, unrepentant support for abortion shouldn’t bar him from taking communion. To clear things up, Ratzinger sent a letter to the now-disgraced Cardinal Theodore McCarrick, at the time the head of a task force of U.S. bishops studying the question, and Bishop Wilton Gregory, then president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops. Ratzinger wrote: Regarding the grave sin of abortion or euthanasia, when a person’s formal cooperation becomes manifest (understood, in the case of a Catholic politician, as his consistently campaigning and voting for permissive abortion and euthanasia laws), his pastor should meet with him, instructing him about the Church’s teaching, informing him that he is not to present himself for Holy Communion until he brings to an end the objective situation of sin, and warning him that he will otherwise be denied the Eucharist. {snip} It is rather Biden who has politicized the Eucharist by his ongoing defiance of Catholic teaching on this matter. The media have also politicized the issue by framing it in political rather than moral terms, and so have the dozens of U.S. bishops who have refused to take a clear stand for what they know is right. Indeed, if it weren’t for political considerations, Friday’s vote by the bishops would have been unanimous. If it weren’t for politics, there would be no need to draft a non-binding document to be approved at a later date. Such weak half-measures would be unnecessary, because the bishops would say, with one voice, what every one of them knows to be true: Joe Biden should not receive communion. Politics, not the Catholic Church’s moral teaching, prevents them from doing so. Politics is what motivates Wilton Gregory, now archbishop of Washington, D.C., to say he will continue to give the Eucharist to Biden, no matter what the USCCB’s document says. Biden’s contention that this is a “private matter” (a claim repeated Monday by White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki) is nonsense. As far as the Catholic Church is concerned, a politician’s stance on abortion is never a private matter, any more than a politician’s vote on abortion-related legislation is a private matter. Like every single American bishop, Biden knows that. He also knows he shouldn’t present himself for communion. So does every Catholic child. Cardinal Francis Arinze, who was prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments from 2002 to 2008, said in a speech in 2007 that he is often asked if a politician who supports abortion should receive Holy Communion: Do you really need a cardinal from the Vatican to answer that? Get the children for first communion and say to them, somebody votes for the killing of unborn babies, and says, I voted for that, I will vote for that every time and these babies are killed, not one or two, but in millions, and that person says I am a practicing Catholic, should that person receive communion next Sunday? The children for first communion will answer that at the drop of a hat. You don’t need a cardinal to answer that. So let’s dispense with the ridiculous fiction that anyone, from Biden to the bishops to liberal Catholic columnists in the corporate press, is the least bit confused about any of this. They’re not confused. They know what the Catholic Church teaches, and they’d like to change it. It’s as simple as that. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Buffalo Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 I am not happy that the Church is going down this road because I have not heard Biden praise women who have had abortions. If he would sign a bill promoting abortions I could see an argument but right now I don't think he is actively undermining our teachings, he is just not actively supporting it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted June 22, 2021 Author Share Posted June 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: I am not happy that the Church is going down this road because I have not heard Biden praise women who have had abortions. If he would sign a bill promoting abortions I could see an argument but right now I don't think he is actively undermining our teachings, he is just not actively supporting it. He repealed the freaking Hyde Amendment. So yes, yes he does promote abortions, the most active president in history to do so. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 18 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: I am not happy that the Church is going down this road because I have not heard Biden praise women who have had abortions. If he would sign a bill promoting abortions I could see an argument but right now I don't think he is actively undermining our teachings, he is just not actively supporting it. There's a group called Catholics for Choice with a vast membership and a Board of Directors. All of those folks are still able to receive the sacrament without issue. Why don't the bishops go after them? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BillStime Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 What is Q's take on the pedophile ring, aka the Catholic Church? Not surprising see all these right wing nut jobs rally behind another pedo cult.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Buffalo Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Big Blitz said: He repealed the freaking Hyde Amendment. So yes, yes he does promote abortions, the most active president in history to do so. I can not find where he did repeal it, I am assuming you mean by one of his executive orders, do you know which one? I honestly can't find it quickly using Google 1 hour ago, 716er said: There's a group called Catholics for Choice with a vast membership and a Board of Directors. All of those folks are still able to receive the sacrament without issue. Why don't the bishops go after them? Never heard of them, they make no sense and are not recognizable, so why bother with them? You don't worry about people who can't effect you generally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2021/06/22/the-daily-beasts-headline-about-controversy-surrounding-devout-catholic-joe-bidens-abortion-stance-couldve-used-a-few-tweaks/ The Daily Beast’s headline about controversy surrounding ‘devout Catholic’ Joe Biden’s abortion stance could’ve used a few tweaks The Daily Beast has a problem with people criticizing “devout Catholic” Joe Biden for supporting abortion and dodging questions about the humanity of unborn babies. Oddly enough, no one at the Daily Beast seems to have had a problem with the headline for that opinion piece: Seriously? Nobody at the Daily Beast read that headline and thought, “Hey, wait a minute. Are we sure there’s not a better way to phrase this? Like in a way that doesn’t compare Joe Biden to a pedophile?” You don't often see the president compared to a pedophile, but here we are. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 (edited) Maybe Biden will finally grow up and stop believing in magical wizards that live in the sky and care about what types of medical procedures are allowed for women or what kind of food you can eat on Fridays. Glad to see you kids couldn't stay away in Trumptardville for more than a couple months. Glad to have you all back. Edited June 22, 2021 by BullBuchanan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Maybe Biden will finally grow up and stop believing in magical wizards that live in the sky and care about what types of medical procedures are allowed for women or what kind of food you can eat on Fridays. While this probably offends a lot of religious people, this should really be the point. Biden defies a core stance of a religion he allegedly subscribes to (I’m sure purely as political theatre) making him a hypocrite too. He needs to man up and say he disagrees and has departed the Catholic Church. He would look a helluva lot stronger standing up for his beliefs rather than being ostracized and slapped on the wrist by the Pope or whomever the eff decided he can’t be fed stale paper wafers... Edited June 22, 2021 by Over 29 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: While this probably offends a lot of religious people, this should really be the point. Biden defies a core stance of a religion he allegedly subscribes to (I’m sure purely as political theatre) making him a hypocrite too. He needs to man up and say he disagrees and has departed the Catholic Church. He would look a helluva lot stronger standing up for his beliefs rather than being ostracized and slapped on the wrist by the Pope or whomever the eff decided he can’t be fed stale paper wafers... Dudeski, he’s the leader of the free world elected in large part by people who claim to victimized by…ah, college…and need redemption in the form of someone else sucking up the payment. He’s the leader of the free world with a history of groping women and children in public, and was elected in large part by people who claim to be pro-women because he “owned” his behavior at age 78. He’s the leader of the free world with a 5 decade history of making racist comments including claiming to be the arbiter of…blackness, elected in large part by social justice suburbanites claiming to be about racial progress. He doesn’t need to look strong, he just has to avoid wearing Dr Jills PhD’pends on his head while out in public. Besides, any devout Catholic knows his shtick from the last 45 years and have shrugged and reconciled or moved on. Edited June 23, 2021 by leh-nerd skin-erd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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