The foundation under Dr. Fauci is starting to crack...

[All_Pro_Bills]

33 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

You have several misconceptions based because you don't realize how much the press worries more about the narrative than facts.

Fauci is a politician first and a scientist second and that has been true for at least a decade. He has legitimate credentials but his actions have been political for a long time. Second the "natural creation" theory was a political decision because there still is no evidence it was natural and he knew we were running Sars testing in that lab and it had a history of leaks and problems. No rationale person takes all the available info last March and says that it is most likely natural much less state it is a conspiracy theory and debunked to state it started in the lab. Lastly, and this is speculation, if we admitted it started in a lab and we forced China to give up all of the known info so we were starting a good position on the vaccine. I actually want to make it clear your statements here are well thought out but I think you believe the media wants facts not narrative.

The big worry of governments, in this case China and the U.S., is what if the lab origin theory proves to be true?  And the virus was engineered in the Wuhan lab with an assist from the US NIH.  And lax safety protocols caused 3 scientists that reported COVID like symptoms and went to the hospital in November 2020 to become infected.  And then the virus spread from there with the knowledge of the Chinese government and some elements inside the US government and the scientific community.  And its revealed a lot of people knew this to be true but worked to suppress the story out of self-interest?

 

So what now?  Are we going to attack China?  Are they going to admit guilt?  Are elements inside the US government and scientific community going to be arrested, tried, and convicted of some series of crimes and locked up for 20 to 30?  Is China going to pay restitution?  Will they be isolated?  

 

The lab theory was suppressed and discredited because governments just don't want to deal with the undesirable consequences that will come to bear if it is proven to be true.  They would rather just pass it off as some natural mutation and go on their merry way.  And let it fade into memory as time passes. 

[Orlando Buffalo]

3 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

The big worry of governments, in this case China and the U.S., is what if the lab origin theory proves to be true?  And the virus was engineered in the Wuhan lab with an assist from the US NIH.  And lax safety protocols caused 3 scientists that reported COVID like symptoms and went to the hospital in November 2020 to become infected.  And then the virus spread from there with the knowledge of the Chinese government and some elements inside the US government and the scientific community.  And its revealed a lot of people knew this to be true but worked to suppress the story out of self-interest?

 

So what now?  Are we going to attack China?  Are they going to admit guilt?  Are elements inside the US government and scientific community going to be arrested, tried, and convicted of some series of crimes and locked up for 20 to 30?  Is China going to pay restitution?  Will they be isolated?  

 

The lab theory was suppressed and discredited because governments just don't want to deal with the undesirable consequences that will come to bear if it is proven to be true.  They would rather just pass it off as some natural mutation and go on their merry way.  And let it fade into memory as time passes. 

I think this is most likely the case at this point, that we are partially responsible, and if that is true Fauci himself is personally responsible. Which would make his "hero" round of time especially disgusting. 

[Doc]

1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

The big worry of governments, in this case China and the U.S., is what if the lab origin theory proves to be true?  And the virus was engineered in the Wuhan lab with an assist from the US NIH.  And lax safety protocols caused 3 scientists that reported COVID like symptoms and went to the hospital in November 2020 to become infected.  And then the virus spread from there with the knowledge of the Chinese government and some elements inside the US government and the scientific community.  And its revealed a lot of people knew this to be true but worked to suppress the story out of self-interest?

 

So what now?  Are we going to attack China?  Are they going to admit guilt?  Are elements inside the US government and scientific community going to be arrested, tried, and convicted of some series of crimes and locked up for 20 to 30?  Is China going to pay restitution?  Will they be isolated?  

 

The lab theory was suppressed and discredited because governments just don't want to deal with the undesirable consequences that will come to bear if it is proven to be true.  They would rather just pass it off as some natural mutation and go on their merry way.  And let it fade into memory as time passes. 

 

I'd place less blame on Fauci wanting to fund GOF research and the most on China, who let it get out and then lied to and obstructed the world from protecting itself, while protecting themselves.  The more that's made known to the world, the more the world can seek to exert pressure on China to straighten TF up/demand restitution. 

 

As for Fauci, forgetting GOF funding, he's been a disaster from the start.  But he's been insulated from criticism, undeservedly.

[BillStime]

On 6/6/2021 at 5:11 PM, reddogblitz said:

 

Who said it vindicates Trump?  I haven't heard anyone say that except you.

 

Here you go:

 

 

[B-Man]

22 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

 

 

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1. "If" is the BIGGEST "little" word in the English language.

 

 

 

[Big Blitz]

 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

AMERICANS: NOT AS DUMB AS POLITICIANS HOPE. 

 

Only 40% of Voters Think Dr. Fauci Told the Truth About Virus Research. 

 

“As investigators pursue evidence that the COVID-19 virus may have originated in a Chinese research laboratory, many voters doubt that Dr. Anthony Fauci has told the truth about American funding of such research.”

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/disease/only_40_of_voters_think_dr_fauci_told_the_truth_about_virus_research

 

 

 

 

WE NEEDED MORE? More Evidence That Fauci Wasn’t Being Straight With the American People.

 

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2021/06/08/another-bombshell-fauci-warned-world-leaders-in-2020-that-covid-could-be-from-lab-leak-n1452699

[BillStime]

What do they have on Lindsay?

 

And the death of 500,000 Americans had more to do with his loss…

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Doc]

So...Faucenstein's monster escapes from a lab, the CCP covers it up from and obstructs the world from knowing about it while stockpiling PPE, the US doesn't have enough PPE because Obama depleted it, masks were deemed ineffective initially because Fauci didn't have all the data a the time...and some idiots think it's Trump's fault?

 

Makes me wonder how much of that wonderful "advising" Faucenstein did to help CHA?

[Governor]

1 hour ago, Doc said:

So...Faucenstein's monster escapes from a lab, the CCP covers it up from and obstructs the world from knowing about it while stockpiling PPE, the US doesn't have enough PPE because Obama depleted it, masks were deemed ineffective initially because Fauci didn't have all the data a the time...and some idiots think it's Trump's fault?

 

Makes me wonder how much of that wonderful "advising" Faucenstein did to help CHA?

Trump’s lack of response and rhetoric is responsible for 500,000 extra Covid deaths in the US as of Feb. 2021.

[Governor]

On 6/8/2021 at 11:18 AM, All_Pro_Bills said:

The big worry of governments, in this case China and the U.S., is what if the lab origin theory proves to be true?  And the virus was engineered in the Wuhan lab with an assist from the US NIH.  And lax safety protocols caused 3 scientists that reported COVID like symptoms and went to the hospital in November 2020 to become infected.  And then the virus spread from there with the knowledge of the Chinese government and some elements inside the US government and the scientific community.  And its revealed a lot of people knew this to be true but worked to suppress the story out of self-interest?

 

So what now?  Are we going to attack China?  Are they going to admit guilt?  Are elements inside the US government and scientific community going to be arrested, tried, and convicted of some series of crimes and locked up for 20 to 30?  Is China going to pay restitution?  Will they be isolated?  

 

The lab theory was suppressed and discredited because governments just don't want to deal with the undesirable consequences that will come to bear if it is proven to be true.  They would rather just pass it off as some natural mutation and go on their merry way.  And let it fade into memory as time passes. 

So, back in November 2019 when Trump, Fauci, Intel, and others were sitting in a room discussing whether or not it came from a bat or a lab, Trump decided to do nothing because he didn’t want to disturb the economy and holiday retail sales?

 

Is that what you’re telling us?

[Governor]

On 6/6/2021 at 4:03 PM, BillStime said:

Not one bit - it doesn’t change what happened and doesn’t bring any of the people back that died from this virus.

 

Explain to me how it matters?

You’re absolutely right. It doesn’t really matter. I’m sure it matters to Presidents and their Intel agency’s but the people don’t care at this point. The response, and future responses, are the important part moving forward. We mishandled that every step of the way and that can’t ever happen again. It’s not like they haven’t been warning us about pandemics for the last 15 years. This was a colossal failure on all fronts.

 

It only matters to people who are trying to re-write history of a crisis we just all witnessed and watched on our TV sets every single day for the last year and some change, and they’ll continue doing that for the next 20 years.

Edited June 12, 2021 by Governor

[SoCal Deek]

1 hour ago, Governor said:

Trump’s lack of response and rhetoric is responsible for 500,000 extra Covid deaths in the US as of Feb. 2021.

Extra deaths? That’s a new one. 😳

[Governor]

27 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Extra deaths? That’s a new one. 😳

Directly from Ron Desantis’ alma mater and past classmates.

 

https://www.fastcompany.com/90603414/harvard-researchers-have-calculated-how-many-unnecessary-deaths-the-trump-administration-left-behind

Edited June 12, 2021 by Governor

[notwoz]

You do know that Jimmy Dore is a comedian? He's not a reputable news source? Oh, you don't. Sorry. You have no credibility.

[BillStime]

Chris Wallace Challenges Pompeo: You ‘Had Almost a Year’ to Prove Lab Leak Theory

 

“You also criticize President Biden for not pushing hard enough on China to learn the origins of the coronavirus, but I want to again go back to your administration and the record there,” Wallace said. “President Trump and his team, including you, had almost a year after COVID-19 first came on the scene, to really press Beijing on what the origins work when the evidence was much fresher.”

 

Typical Pompeo/GQP:

 

“the predicate of your question is all wrong”

[unbillievable]

On 6/12/2021 at 1:49 PM, SoCal Deek said:

Extra deaths? That’s a new one. 😳

If we had only responded like Europe, there would be 0 deaths.

[unbillievable]

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea