The foundation under Dr. Fauci is starting to crack...

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

21 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

IMHO, if you cannot see a wide view you have no ability to fit in the details.

Understand and set broad principles before you try to fit include or exclude from the circle. If you begin the discussion with which song you are going to play for the 7th inning stretch, you will never have a first pitch.

Are you trying to out-Confucius me??? Ah hell no! 
 

Using your analogy, you’ve conveniently ignored innings 1-4, where most of one team played by the rules of survival as outlined by the informationally erratic Dr Fauci, while hundreds of thousands completely disregarded said rules, and undoubtedly brought the Vid back to some of the most at-risk communities in our nation.  I can only speculate how low our death count might have been if not for the well-intentioned but woefully misguided protestors causing da spread. 
 

Your analogy ignores the perils of inning 5, where former super Covid healer Cuomo screwed the pooch about as badly as it’s possible to screw a pooch, lied about it and got away with it.  He closed down New Rochelle but lacked the sack to cordon off Man/ha/in and treat it like the hot zone it obviously was. 
 

Inning 6 saw the seeds of vaccine doubt sewn by Messrs Warren, Biden, Harris when they screamed loudly “don’t trust the Trump vax” and obviously, people believed them.  We see that in the numbers even today.  

 

Here’s the only real statistic that matters—-under Trump’s leadership, the amazing, cool, legit and life saving vaxx to combat a virus developed on foreign soil was developed with amazing speed, delivered to market where Joe and your man boy Trudeau only had to not $&@$ it up, but they were not up to the task.  

 

The fact is that Trump saved tens of millions of lives, all praise to 45.  
 

From your friend Lehnny  across the pond, i can understand you taking our gift for granted, but you are welcome anyway. 
 

 

 

 

[Niagara Bill]

1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Are you trying to out-Confucius me??? Ah hell no! 
 

Using your analogy, you’ve conveniently ignored innings 1-4, where most of one team played by the rules of survival as outlined by the informationally erratic Dr Fauci, while hundreds of thousands completely disregarded said rules, and undoubtedly brought the Vid back to some of the most at-risk communities in our nation.  I can only speculate how low our death count might have been if not for the well-intentioned but woefully misguided protestors causing da spread. 
 

Your analogy ignores the perils of inning 5, where former super Covid healer Cuomo screwed the pooch about as badly as it’s possible to screw a pooch, lied about it and got away with it.  He closed down New Rochelle but lacked the sack to cordon off Man/ha/in and treat it like the hot zone it obviously was. 
 

Inning 6 saw the seeds of vaccine doubt sewn by Messrs Warren, Biden, Harris when they screamed loudly “don’t trust the Trump vax” and obviously, people believed them.  We see that in the numbers even today.  

 

Here’s the only real statistic that matters—-under Trump’s leadership, the amazing, cool, legit and life saving vaxx to combat a virus developed on foreign soil was developed with amazing speed, delivered to market where Joe and your man boy Trudeau only had to not $&@$ it up, but they were not up to the task.  

 

The fact is that Trump saved tens of millions of lives, all praise to 45.  
 

From your friend Lehnny  across the pond, i can understand you taking our gift for granted, but you are welcome anyway. 
 

 

 

 

We will never agree that trump was successful with anything covid related. He spend 6 months of valued time trying to show how smart he is and putting bleach jn blood. Ok, debate, blue sky whatever but not with the public watching.

He did not develop the Vax, company based in US, England, China, Russia, Belgium did. Canada did not because all drug companies left in disagreement over patent terms 15 yrs ago. There was also a US company he supported that screwed up the production.

Do you think he was the only country to invest in the production.

But he was the only leader to spend the money, then undermind the use of it.

 Not sure where Cuomo came from but by comparison DeSantis makes Cuomo look like a genius.

You cannot play inning one or 4 until you decide the possibility of a max number and time of pitch one, who bats first, how many players in the field etc. Inning 4 will be a duplicate of 1 if you agree to 3 outs per inning. 

 

Decent from others helped masking take hold in locations, something trumps friends still try to stop. 

I really have no desire to debate trump, he is bad for the US, good for the wealthy, good for the gun lobby, good for destruction of institutions, bad for the world. 

Biden is no genius, infact maybe not as smart as trump, but trump is not capable of leading a country, only part of it. He is only capable of good relationships wigh people or countries or companies when you kiss his a??. 

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

46 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

We will never agree that trump was successful with anything covid related. He spend 6 months of valued time trying to show how smart he is and putting bleach jn blood. Ok, debate, blue sky whatever but not with the public watching.

He did not develop the Vax, company based in US, England, China, Russia, Belgium did. Canada did not because all drug companies left in disagreement over patent terms 15 yrs ago. There was also a US company he supported that screwed up the production.

Do you think he was the only country to invest in the production.

But he was the only leader to spend the money, then undermind the use of it.

 Not sure where Cuomo came from but by comparison DeSantis makes Cuomo look like a genius.

You cannot play inning one or 4 until you decide the possibility of a max number and time of pitch one, who bats first, how many players in the field etc. Inning 4 will be a duplicate of 1 if you agree to 3 outs per inning. 

 

Decent from others helped masking take hold in locations, something trumps friends still try to stop. 

I really have no desire to debate trump, he is bad for the US, good for the wealthy, good for the gun lobby, good for destruction of institutions, bad for the world. 

Biden is no genius, infact maybe not as smart as trump, but trump is not capable of leading a country, only part of it. He is only capable of good relationships wigh people or countries or companies when you kiss his a??. 

 

I agree, we won’t agree.  Like you, I won’t surrender points that are a matter of public record in favor of rhetoric that makes no sense to me. 
 

Trump was imperfect in his handling of the virus.  He said things that in retrospect made little sense, were most definitely articulated in a way that exposed his throat to media and political enemies, and was definitely impacted by the learning curve associated with pandemic management.  Still, his focus changed and his approach did as well.  In large part, what he said and did was irrelevant because 90m + Americans weren’t listening to him anyways based on unfounded accusations of Russian collusion for the 4 years prior.  
 

That said, he was criticized by his political enemies for attempting to lock potential carriers out, he supported recovery efforts vocally and with money, temporary hospitals, supplies and the like.    He aligned with businesses that could speed recovery efforts, brought them together on a national public stage and encouraged/strong-armed participation on an unprecedented level.  For that, he was maligned—constantly, repetitively, relentlessly—by his political enemies including many large progressive media outlets  which caused  people —-apolitical, conservatives, democrats and independents—— to question the trustworthiness of the US Government in fighting the pandemic.   Sadly, it worked perfectly.  
 

Respectfully—because I like you—-rattling off any bullshyt that does not recognize the fundamental and crucial role of the Trump administration in the development of the vaccine that will save the world makes you look petty and small-minded.  As for the Canadian government, instead of lobbing emotionally vapid water balloons at the US response, perhaps one might wonder what the Provincial brain trust  was doing when they lost a d*ck-measuring fight over “patent disputes”  to the companies that make the shyt that keep the people alive during, uh pandemics.  Where the hell has leadership been since 2006??  There’s your trouble. 
 

The “Trump for the rich” story is stale, old and cumbersome.  It’s boring, and it’s the shtick liberal and progressives use to bolster their base.  The truly interesting part for me is how they then juxtapose Trump with a lifer like Biden, a guy extraordinarily well-positioned to help the little people for 50 damn years but...hasn’t.  Biden is no genius, indeed,  but damn he’s made boatloads of cash for him and his by fooling people just like you.  In that regard he’s pretty damn smart.  But hey, maybe this time and if not, maybe after re-election when blow dries his wig with an egg beater.  
 

Finally, the record is clear on the positioning of the current democrat leadership in this country on pandemic management last year.  “Don’t trust the vaccine. Don’t trust Trump.  Protest loud and proud while we lock life for the compliant down tight af.  All this did was spread the virus, add to the millions infected, and spike the death count.   I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again—-Death and disease were good for the Biden campaign in 2020.  
 

 

Edited September 2, 2021 by leh-nerd skin-erd

[Niagara Bill]

Well, we agree on a few things. Poor leadership in Canada, death and disease helped Biden, but trump handed him this weapon, and you appear to know little about patents of drugs and the benefits and problems. Remember trump told US citizens to buy their drugs in Canada. Why. Canada stood up to big pharma to get cheaper daily drugs at the expense of manufacturing of new drugs. Pharma owns the US. Look how far Perdue went without control.

Finally, leadership that is good for all citizens and the countries future. Biden, trump, DeSantis, Trudeau, O'Toole, Singh. Not one of these guys could lead a crowd to the beer line at a Bills game. North America has a void. 

The US has been too focused on Wall Street, Canada has become far to socialist focused.

Stay safe and keep your stick on the ice.

[SoCal Deek]

Yikes there’s a lot of Monday morning quarterbacking going on here.  Here’s something to think about: Trump was ‘in charge’ of the virus for nine months from March through November, playing short handed without medications, supplies, or a vaccine, and he got clobbered for not magically eradicating it. Biden’s been ‘in charge’ for nine months from December through August, playing the entire time on the ‘power play’ with all of the above in his tool chest. Is the virus gone? Nope! People….it’s a VIRUS!!

Edited September 2, 2021 by SoCal Deek

[BillStime]

1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said:

Yikes there’s a lot of Monday morning quarterbacking going on here.  Here’s something to think about: Trump was ‘in charge’ of the virus for nine months from March through November, playing short handed without medications, supplies, or a vaccine, and he got clobbered for not magically eradicating it. Biden’s been ‘in charge’ for nine months from December through August, playing the entire time on the ‘power play’ with all of the above in his tool chest. Is the virus gone? Nope! People….it’s a VIRUS!!

[SoCal Deek]

Just now, BillStime said:

And we’re back to junior high school. Don’t you have a bus to catch?

[BillStime]

Just now, SoCal Deek said:

And we’re back to junior high school. Don’t you have a bus to catch?

 

 

[SoCal Deek]

6 hours ago, BillStime said:

 

 

Ya see...We agree on something after all...I love me some Eminem. 🙂

[Doc]

23 hours ago, Niagara Bill said:

We will never agree that trump was successful with anything covid related. He spend 6 months of valued time trying to show how smart he is and putting bleach jn blood. Ok, debate, blue sky whatever but not with the public watching.

He did not develop the Vax, company based in US, England, China, Russia, Belgium did. Canada did not because all drug companies left in disagreement over patent terms 15 yrs ago. There was also a US company he supported that screwed up the production.

Do you think he was the only country to invest in the production.

But he was the only leader to spend the money, then undermind the use of it.

 Not sure where Cuomo came from but by comparison DeSantis makes Cuomo look like a genius.

You cannot play inning one or 4 until you decide the possibility of a max number and time of pitch one, who bats first, how many players in the field etc. Inning 4 will be a duplicate of 1 if you agree to 3 outs per inning. 

 

Decent from others helped masking take hold in locations, something trumps friends still try to stop. 

I really have no desire to debate trump, he is bad for the US, good for the wealthy, good for the gun lobby, good for destruction of institutions, bad for the world. 

Biden is no genius, infact maybe not as smart as trump, but trump is not capable of leading a country, only part of it. He is only capable of good relationships wigh people or countries or companies when you kiss his a??. 

 

 

Joey's had the vaccine since before he took office and over 200K have died.  No one would have done well with the Wuhan virus.

[Niagara Bill]

24 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Joey's had the vaccine since before he took office and over 200K have died.  No one would have done well with the Wuhan virus.

Some truth to this, but many would have done better if they were not an ego maniac.

[Doc]

18 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

Some truth to this, but many would have done better if they were not an ego maniac.

 

Joey's not.  And he's not an egomaniac, right?

[Niagara Bill]

24 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Joey's not.  And he's not an egomaniac, right?

Of course he is....not quite as much as trump. But he is so close to the end he doesn't realize it..😁

[B-Man]

 

 

Fauci says he's 'keeping a very close eye on' new COVID-19 variant

 

The World Health Organization this week designated the strain known as “mu” or “B.1.621” a variant of interest.

 

https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/570759-fauci-says-hes-keeping-a-very-close-eye-on-new-covid-variant

 

[B-Man]

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

14 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

Fauci needs to resign or be fired.  Facts have proven him to be a liar.  He lied to Congress, he lied to the public.  This isn't a political issue.  Its one of credibility.  How does anyone expect the public to line up and support policy if the mouthpiece for it all is a fraud.  And perhaps a guy that had a hand in unleashing COVID on the world?  Sadly, a resignation or firing is unlikely as our leadership is both clueless and unaccountable.   

 

Over time the government and almost every other social institution has become dysfunctional and ineffective.  Fauci is symptomatic of that dysfunction.  And traditionally in our Constitutional form of government the government exists solely for the purpose of serving its citizens.  If its not doing that then it has no purpose.  We're getting real close to that point where a different vision of where the citizens exist solely for the purpose of serving the government is taking hold.  The last one looks to be where all these officials and would-be dictators with all kinds of restrictions and edicts are lining up.  Which one you believe tells which side of the struggle you sit on.     

 

 

[SoCal Deek]

40 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Fauci needs to resign or be fired.  Facts have proven him to be a liar.  He lied to Congress, he lied to the public.  This isn't a political issue.  Its one of credibility.  How does anyone expect the public to line up and support policy if the mouthpiece for it all is a fraud.  And perhaps a guy that had a hand in unleashing COVID on the world?  Sadly, a resignation or firing is unlikely as our leadership is both clueless and unaccountable.   

 

Over time the government and almost every other social institution has become dysfunctional and ineffective.  Fauci is symptomatic of that dysfunction.  And traditionally in our Constitutional form of government the government exists solely for the purpose of serving its citizens.  If its not doing that then it has no purpose.  We're getting real close to that point where a different vision of where the citizens exist solely for the purpose of serving the government is taking hold.  The last one looks to be where all these officials and would-be dictators with all kinds of restrictions and edicts are lining up.  Which one you believe tells which side of the struggle you sit on.     

 

 

I tend to break things down to simplest common denominator. If you were the current President of the United States, and were really interested in putting the pandemic behind us, would you continue to have Dr. Fauci be the spokesperson for the national narrative?  Answer: No, you wouldn't!  That should tell you all you need to know.

[B-Man]

 

HE’S A PROTECTED MEMBER OF AMERICA’S NOBLE CLASS: 

 

Why Does Fauci Still Have a Job?

 

 

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/rick-moran/2021/09/07/damning-new-evidence-shows-the-u-s-funded-dangerous-research-at-the-wuhan-lab-why-does-fauci-still-have-a-job-n1476602

[Doc]

Could we see him being convicted of perjury when the House and Senate flip next year?

[Big Blitz]

Faucism is the result of this country's psychopath's obsession with trying to defeat Trump 24/7/365.  

 

Fauci told us all the truth about covid since late February of 2020 whereas Trump was lying.

 

Fauci gave us a clear message about the virus.

 

Fauci never contradicted himself 

 

Fauci set clear metrics 

 

Fauci set goals and a clear exit strategy 

 

 

 

 

No wait jk........

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here is what Fauci did:

 

Enriched himself 

Made himself a hero to the establishment 

Helped to take down Trump

Loved being on TV

 

And now, because the psychopath elevated him as their infallible cult leader, to remove him would admit they were and in turn he, were wrong about......everything.  So he's the face of this debacle until Fauci rids the world of Covid and has schools and scholarships named after him.  Which of course will be never.   It's never going away.  

 

So making you *safe* for the next decade plus will be the goal.  Their "public safety" measures are keeping you alive!