Joe Ferguson forever Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Introduction. Ukraine has long played an important, yet sometimes overlooked, role in the global security order. Today, the country is on the front lines of a renewed great-power rivalry that many analysts say will dominate international relations in the decades ahead. How Firm Is Vladimir Putin's Grip on Power? Ukraine: Conflict at the Crossroads of Europe and Russia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: you're kidding, right? that statement seems pretty black and white with no gray yet the conflict truly is gray.... What is our interest in national security- do you actually believe Putin would go into Poland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said: What is our interest in national security- do you actually believe Putin would go into Poland? yes, given the opportunity he clearly would. Introduction. Ukraine has long played an important, yet sometimes overlooked, role in the global security order. Today, the country is on the front lines of a renewed great-power rivalry that many analysts say will dominate international relations in the decades ahead. How Firm Is Vladimir Putin's Grip on Power? Ukraine: Conflict at the Crossroads of Europe and Russia Hell, u aren't seeing nuance, you're missing the elephant in the room.... Edited November 25, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 12 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: yes, given the opportunity he clearly would. Introduction. Ukraine has long played an important, yet sometimes overlooked, role in the global security order. Today, the country is on the front lines of a renewed great-power rivalry that many analysts say will dominate international relations in the decades ahead. How Firm Is Vladimir Putin's Grip on Power? Ukraine: Conflict at the Crossroads of Europe and Russia Hell, u aren't seeing nuance, you're missing the elephant in the room.... You are nuts, seriously nuts, Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in the world and as for " dominate international relations in decades to come" it is already done. I love the fact you admit it is overlooked, because the reason is that is not important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, Orlando Tim said: You are nuts, seriously nuts, Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in the world and as for " dominate international relations in decades to come" it is already done. I love the fact you admit it is overlooked, because the reason is that is not important. everyone is nuts but crazy MAGA's...relativity. Community Member 8.3k Location:Virginia Posted 8 minutes ago Introduction. Ukraine has long played an important, yet sometimes overlooked, role in the global security order. Today, the country is on the front lines of a renewed great-power rivalry that many analysts say will dominate international relations in the decades ahead. How Firm Is Vladimir Putin's Grip on Power ? along with RUSSIA and ole Tuck Ukraine: Conflict at the Crossroads of Europe and Russia Edited November 25, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 8 hours ago, Orlando Tim said: , Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in the world and as for " along w Russia and ole Tuck....and? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 23 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: along w Russia and ole Tuck....and? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/business-47571043.amp https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/09/17/the-corrupt-shall-inherit-ukraine/ https://carnegieendowment.org/2014/05/16/how-corruption-guts-militaries-ukraine-case-study-pub-55635 None of these are new articles but they cover from before Trump through 2019. How did you not know that Ukraine is corrupt? It has been discussed for decades and it is part of the reason that in 2014 we did not react more harshly to the Crimea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/business-47571043.amp https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/09/17/the-corrupt-shall-inherit-ukraine/ https://carnegieendowment.org/2014/05/16/how-corruption-guts-militaries-ukraine-case-study-pub-55635 None of these are new articles but they cover from before Trump through 2019. How did you not know that Ukraine is corrupt? It has been discussed for decades and it is part of the reason that in 2014 we did not react more harshly to the Crimea. corrupt does not equal nonstrategic.... Edited November 25, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Just now, Joe Ferguson forever said: corrupt does not equal nonstrategic.... Agreed but that is what you were arguing at the time, so how is it strategic? To believe that Putin will attack a NATO country at this point is crazy since his military is decimated in both personnel and materials. Since May of 2022 at the latest it has been apparent this was gonna be a long slog kind of war, why not make a peace plan at that time? Why chew up so much material and personnel on both sides? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Orlando Tim said: Agreed but that is what you were arguing at the time, so how is it strategic? To believe that Putin will attack a NATO country at this point is crazy since his military is decimated in both personnel and materials. Since May of 2022 at the latest it has been apparent this was gonna be a long slog kind of war, why not make a peace plan at that time? Why chew up so much material and personnel on both sides? his military is decimated cuz we and the Ukrainians destroyed it. well done fellas ya think Russia is strategic? Ukraine was gonna become Russia. Edited November 25, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: his military is decimated cuz we and the Ukrainians destroyed it. Not true. His military is not decimated, and the Russian economy has gone full speed war posture, producing far more than they were a year ago, which does not argue well for the outcome. Ukraine has to do a bit better than status quo this winter. Otherwise they will be overwhelmed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 2 hours ago, sherpa said: and the Russian economy has gone full speed What were US tax rates during WW2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: What were US tax rates during WW2? I don't do homework. The fact is that the Russian industrial economy has adjusted to full speed wartime production. They are committed to winning this thing, at any cost. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 7 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: his military is decimated cuz we and the Ukrainians destroyed it. well done fellas ya think Russia is strategic? Ukraine was gonna become Russia. So Ukrainian young men are of equal value to the destruction of the Russia materials? That is a thought I have not heard before in regards to the Ukraine. 2 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: What were US tax rates during WW2? What does this have to do with the current situation? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 55 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said: What does this have to do with the current situation? Russians are destroying their economy to wage an unlawful war. we ravaged ours for a just war against Nazi's and Japanese terrorists. 2 hours ago, sherpa said: I don't do homework. lazy will do: To help finance the war, U.S. income taxes were raised to the highest levels in history. For 1944 and 1945, income amounts above $200,000 — about $3.3 million in today's dollars — were taxed at an astounding marginal tax rate of 94%! After the war, that top rate was brought down to 91%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 23 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Russians are destroying their economy Are they? https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2023/11/24/715194/Russia-economy-Eurozone-Amundi According to the French investment firm Amundi, cited by British media on Thursday, Russia’s gross domestic product (GDP) will grow by 1.5 percent in 2024, while expectations for the Eurozone economy’s growth next year are a mere 0.5 percent. The French fund manager said Russian trade imports and exports had remained virtually unaffected by the Western sanctions, while skyrocketing energy prices had left a heavy toll on the Eurozone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 (edited) 53 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: Are they? https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2023/11/24/715194/Russia-economy-Eurozone-Amundi According to the French investment firm Amundi, cited by British media on Thursday, Russia’s gross domestic product (GDP) will grow by 1.5 percent in 2024, while expectations for the Eurozone economy’s growth next year are a mere 0.5 percent. The French fund manager said Russian trade imports and exports had remained virtually unaffected by the Western sanctions, while skyrocketing energy prices had left a heavy toll on the Eurozone. GDP is up cuz munitions....duh. Wars are expensive. they started it. why all the commie love here. are the Ruskies in bed with MAGA's? Edited November 26, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 17 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: GDP is up cuz munitions....duh. Wars are expensive. they started it. why all the commie love here. are the Ruskies in bed with MAGA's? Typical dipsh!t response that is a specialty of the redhawk/tiberius crowd. If you take issue with the data, data that refutes your earlier statement, you might wish to lodge a complaint with the French investment firm that provided the analysis. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 1 hour ago, JDHillFan said: Typical dipsh!t response that is a specialty of the redhawk/tiberius crowd. If you take issue with the data, data that refutes your earlier statement, you might wish to lodge a complaint with the French investment firm that provided the analysis. did the firm mention munitions? dipshit? why do you love the Russians? R U a troll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: did the firm mention munitions? dipshit? why do you love the Russians? R U a troll? You argued the destruction of the entire Ukraine male population is worth Russia using all of their munitions. You need to drop the hyperbole and try to have a serious conversation unless you want to be known as the new Billsy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 20 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said: You argued the destruction of the entire Ukraine male population is worth Russia using all of their munitions. pls link where I said this, Vlad..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: did the firm mention munitions? dipshit? why do you love the Russians? R U a troll? As a self-described “elite” it surprises me to see you babbling yourself into a position where you can be fairly compared to the board dolt known as Tiberius. Whatever floats yer boat! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 On 11/25/2023 at 7:55 AM, Orlando Tim said: Since May of 2022 at the latest it has been apparent this was gonna be a long slog kind of war, why not make a peace plan at that time? Why chew up so much material and personnel on both sides? 21 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: his military is decimated cuz we and the Ukrainians destroyed it. well done fellas ya think Russia is strategic? Ukraine was gonna become Russia. 9 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: pls link where I said this, Vlad..... This was back to back comments- you think the war is worth it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Unforgiven Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 On 11/24/2023 at 10:40 PM, Orlando Tim said: You are nuts, seriously nuts, Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in the world and as for " dominate international relations in decades to come" it is already done. I love the fact you admit it is overlooked, because the reason is that is not important. dnc money laundering op 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said: This was back to back comments- you think the war is worth it. Not what I said…but lying is ur thing Edited November 26, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 13 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Not what I said…but lying is ur thing I literally post your quote, but that is not what you said, got it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 33 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said: I literally post your quote, but that is not what you said, got it. “Literally “ u lie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Can't make it up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: Can't make it up They always leave out the most important words that provide context. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 14 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: Can't make it up You're right - you pushing propaganda from a PAC and don't even know it - you can't make it up! PAC Profile: Salem Media Group • OpenSecrets lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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B-Man Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Symbolism Alert: Much Like America's Standing in the World, The National Christmas Tree Has Fallen We all know how popular it is to dramatically change the meaning of common words to try and fit a narrative, but even this is astonishingly bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, B-Man said: Symbolism Alert: Much Like America's Standing in the World, The National Christmas Tree Has Fallen Plagiarism Alert: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 This, this is how you win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 DEMOCRACY https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/29/politics/haley-koch-trump-2024/index.html Tuesday’s endorsement from Americans for Prosperity Action is the latest indication that Haley – on the strength of a shrewd campaign, a new generational message, and several strong debate performances – is now the GOP establishment’s favorite as the Trump-alternative. But despite the advantage of the Koch network’s tens of millions of dollars and its vast political machine, the endorsement poses new questions for Haley – the latest woman to take a turn trying to break the highest glass ceiling in politics. First, will this new boost relatively late simply make her one of the best-financed runners-up in US political history? Or can she use it to mount a serious challenge to the ex-president in building a path to the GOP nomination that does not yet seem to exist? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tommy Callahan Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Ugh. More results of the plandemic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 "They've got to be carefully taught" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Will Venezuela Be the Next Country to Attack a Neighbor All the world needs now is another dictator launching a war on its neighbor. Last year Putin launched the war in Ukraine and in October Gaza initiated its own war against Israel. Recently there have been signs that Nicolas Maduro’s regime in Venezuela may be planning an invasion of neighboring Guyana. https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2023/11/29/will-venezuela-be-the-next-country-to-attack-a-neighbor-n595613 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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