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1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Picking a side? The article you cited said turkey’s government said ‘these tweet are illegal, take them down or we take the whole site down.’ He said alright for now but I’ll see you in court.

 

would should he have done? 

hmmmm, let me think...from the BBC article I linked, quoting Wiki CEO:

But Mr Wales said Twitter should have stood its ground.

"We have been blocked in various places around the world at different times, we have never given in to censorship and we never will," he told me on the BBC's tech podcast Tech Life.

"If governments around the world believe that in order to get political advantage they can control what their political opponents are saying online or prevent them from speaking online, then they will try that."

He said Twitter's actions would put pressure on other websites to comply with future demands.

"I think people in the industry should really stand up and vigorously say no - actually an open internet, a free internet, the free sharing of ideas and knowledge is really crucially important," he added.

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1 hour ago, redtail hawk said:

hmmmm, let me think...from the BBC article I linked, quoting Wiki CEO:

But Mr Wales said Twitter should have stood its ground.

"We have been blocked in various places around the world at different times, we have never given in to censorship and we never will," he told me on the BBC's tech podcast Tech Life.

"If governments around the world believe that in order to get political advantage they can control what their political opponents are saying online or prevent them from speaking online, then they will try that."

He said Twitter's actions would put pressure on other websites to comply with future demands.

"I think people in the industry should really stand up and vigorously say no - actually an open internet, a free internet, the free sharing of ideas and knowledge is really crucially important," he added.


I saw the commentary on what the guy who isn’t ceo for Twitter said Twitter should do. 
 

I don’t have a strong opinion because I recognize Musk has been an overarching force for good in the world(I say that as I compete directly against him in a space he’s made a lot harder to compete in) 

 

but you think the best decision was be blocked completely as opposed to comply in interim and challenge in court?

 

The right choice and why isn’t obvious to me

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On 5/19/2023 at 10:56 AM, Wacka said:

And doing it while on vacation.

 

Even taking away time from pro creating to do it. That's dedication.

7 hours ago, Tiberius said:

He doesn't even use one of our aircraft! 

 

 

 

Ah, it doesn't look Italian to me.  Looks more like The Ghost of Kyiv.

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Yeah, there's no connection between Trump and Russia.

 

Why did Republicans become Communists?

 

Russia has expanded its list of sanctioned Americans in a tit-for-tat retaliation for the latest curbs imposed by the United States. But what is particularly striking is how much President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia is adopting perceived enemies of former President Donald J. Trump as his own.

 

Among the 500 people singled out for travel and financial restrictions on Friday were Americans seen as adversaries by Mr. Trump, including Letitia James, the state attorney general of New York who has investigated and sued him.

 

Brad Raffensperger, the secretary of state of Georgia who rebuffed Mr. Trump’s pressure to reverse the outcome of the 2020 election, also made the list.

 

And Lt. Michael Byrd, the Capitol Police officer who shot the pro-Trump rioter Ashli Babbitt on Jan. 6, 2021, was another notable name.

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15 minutes ago, Kemp said:

Yeah, there's no connection between Trump and Russia.

 

Why did Republicans become Communists?

 

Russia has expanded its list of sanctioned Americans in a tit-for-tat retaliation for the latest curbs imposed by the United States. But what is particularly striking is how much President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia is adopting perceived enemies of former President Donald J. Trump as his own.

 

Among the 500 people singled out for travel and financial restrictions on Friday were Americans seen as adversaries by Mr. Trump, including Letitia James, the state attorney general of New York who has investigated and sued him.

 

Brad Raffensperger, the secretary of state of Georgia who rebuffed Mr. Trump’s pressure to reverse the outcome of the 2020 election, also made the list.

 

And Lt. Michael Byrd, the Capitol Police officer who shot the pro-Trump rioter Ashli Babbitt on Jan. 6, 2021, was another notable name.

Anyone know where the full list is.  500 people and if you search google, you just get the same 5-7 names.

 

 

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On 5/20/2023 at 3:35 PM, Tiberius said:

 

One of the amazing things about rock stars aging is how they used to rage against the machine in their youth, and run full-throated to become part of it as they become insanely wealthy later in life.  I was at a Springsteen show at the Meadowlands in 1985 when Bruce declared “…blind faith in your leaders can get you killed…”.  He was right, of course. 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

One of the amazing things about rock stars aging is how they used to rage against the machine in their youth, and run full-throated to become part of it as they become insanely wealthy later in life.  I was at a Springsteen show at the Meadowlands in 1985 when Bruce declared “…blind faith in your leaders can get you killed…”.  He was right, of course. 

 

 

Yup, that's why we have free and fair elections. 

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18 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

One of the amazing things about rock stars aging is how they used to rage against the machine in their youth, and run full-throated to become part of it as they become insanely wealthy later in life.  I was at a Springsteen show at the Meadowlands in 1985 when Bruce declared “…blind faith in your leaders can get you killed…”.  He was right, of course. 

Tom Morello is right near the top of that list, and epic ironic as his band was called "rage against the machine."

 

 

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1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

Yup, that's why we have free and fair elections. 

I think a guy like Miami Steve is a believer in free and fair as long as his guy wins, not so much when he doesn’t.  In that regard, he’s like many myopic souls in our country, influenced and manipulated by his own bias.   Or, maybe he didn’t believe all that stuff back in the day to begin with. 
 

 
 

54 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

Tom Morello is right near the top of that list, and epic ironic as his band was called "rage against the machine."

 

 

It’s hard to figure out where his rage ended and he was co-opted to become part of the machine. 
 

I was reading another post about Dave Matthews recently.  He was opining about guns and gun control, mentioned climate change as well.  I read about his green initiatives—heavy emphasis on recycling, buying locally sourced goods and buying offsets.  It occurred to me the best action he could take in his climate activism would be to stop touring.  In spite of his efforts to lessen his impact, his carbon footprint is a massive cluster&$@$.  He’s enormously wealthy, what’s the point when the future of the planet is in peril?   Regardless, he pushes on.    

 

People are complicated.

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15 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

I think a guy like Miami Steve is a believer in free and fair as long as his guy wins, not so much when he doesn’t.  In that regard, he’s like many myopic souls in our country, influenced and manipulated by his own bias.   Or, maybe he didn’t believe all that stuff back in the day to begin with. 
 

 

 

No, that's what YOUR side thinks, We abide by election results. MAGA does not. 

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On 5/21/2023 at 7:44 AM, Unforgiven said:

Breaking news on MSM…

 


Using 'he/him,' 'she/her' in emails got 2 dorm directors fired at small New York Christian college (from @AP)

 

https://apnews.com/article/03bdb3f62a95ac2921c31202d6520ae4


 

9 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

No, that's what YOUR side thinks, We abide by election results. MAGA does not. 


It’s been a pattern the last several elections now… the last was just the worst 

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4 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Breaking news on MSM…

 


Using 'he/him,' 'she/her' in emails got 2 dorm directors fired at small New York Christian college (from @AP)

 

https://apnews.com/article/03bdb3f62a95ac2921c31202d6520ae4


 


It’s been a pattern the last several elections now… the last was just the worst 

Yes, even the leader of the Republican party says he will only accept elections he wins. 

Dems are not like that 

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2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

No, that's what YOUR side thinks, We abide by election results. MAGA does not. 

You should move past “sides”, Miami Tibs, it binds you to your limitations.  
 

The facts are clear, history shows us what took place up to and beyond 2016.  There was no acceptance of election results, widespread support to question the results of a free and fair elections, and more than a few instances of using the weight and power of the govt to spread propaganda to achieve a goal.   
 

You and SVZ just liked that version of election interference.
 

It’s exactly what Bruce meant back when he hadn’t realized that he was on his way to becoming Springsteen Inc and the substantial impact of having the right friends and right people in place meant for a mega-fortune. 
 

Btw, can we at least agree a 75 year old rocker wearing a perpetual babushka is sorta weird?  I really wonder if he’s cooked his brain over the past few decades.  
 

@Chris farley Ironically just listened to Dave Matthews on Sirius speaking of gun violence and greed often seems to drive the results 

of our discourse.  I don’t disagree with him here, but had to chuckle at how abjectly tone deaf people can be.   DMB polluting Mother Earth for profit apparently is only greed-ish, or greed*. 
 

 

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50 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Yes, even the leader of the Republican party says he will only accept elections he wins. 

Dems are not like that 

Did you conveniently forget that actual Democratic congressional representatives boycotted Trump’s inauguration? If that isn’t rejecting the results of elections I have no idea what planet we’re living on. 

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