NewEra Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 13 minutes ago, IgotBILLStopay said: I agree we wont go WR. LB is not a pressing need - but we will likely pick up one in the first 3 rounds. I think you misunderstood my post Everything does not have in the OP for a thread to be valuable, no? If the OP's post is all informative, why have a thread? The point is that there is no scope for discussing a. and b. in the "Jarran Reed to Chiefs" thread. Read the thread.....people are most definitely discussing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 1 hour ago, machine gun kelly said: No a RB, a DT, a DE, a CB, oh yeah maybe a G. This is fun. Let’s keep speculating on nothing we know at all. We know nothing because he’s a “wizard” correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted March 30, 2021 Author Share Posted March 30, 2021 18 minutes ago, NewEra said: Read the thread.....people are most definitely discussing it And where is the discussion in the context of Beane reaching out to Jarran Reed. I dont see that in the thread "Jarran Reed to Chiefs"? That being said, I do apologize again since the thread clearly offends you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 4 hours ago, DJB said: I agree with everything except the part about LB. We are in desperate need to find a nickle LB and I expect to be taking one in the first few rounds and potentially the 1st. The kid out of Notre Dame would be perfect. Not sure what you mean by "Nickle LB." The definition of Nickel Defense is 5 defensive backs. Which almost always means taking the third linebacker off the field in favor of another cornerback or safety. Over the last few years, Nickel has basically become our base defense. I'm all for adding a Linebacker as depth. We could use to upgrade the spot currently occupied by A.J. Klein. But we just gave Matt Milano a big contract, and Tremaine Edmunds is probably going to be under contract for 2 more years. Those guys play close to 100% of the snaps, and almost never come off the field. Not sure a guy who plays less than 50% of snaps is worthy of a 1st Round selection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arm of Harm Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 1 hour ago, glazeduck said: I'm not saying Taron Johnson is a hall of famer, but I think he's far from our biggest weakness that needs addressing. You'd rather upgrade Johnson than: CB2 -- Levi Wallace/Dane Jackson TE1 -- Dawson Knox Edge -- Mario Addison/Jerry Hughes (33/32 years old, respectively) 1T -- Star Lotuleilei (will be 32 this season) WR -- Emanuel Sanders/Cole Beasley (34/32 this season RB -- yuck Again, JOK would be great, add a fun dynamic to the defense and could certainly help cure some of what ails us. I'm just not convinced that a guy who's not going to get 3-down snaps at a splurge position is our biggest need... I'd add OG to your list, but otherwise I think this is a good summation of this team's needs. If the BPA happened to be at any one of the positions you mentioned, or happened to be an OG, I'd have no problem whatsoever going BPA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazeduck Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Arm of Harm said: I'd add OG to your list, but otherwise I think this is a good summation of this team's needs. If the BPA happened to be at any one of the positions you mentioned, or happened to be an OG, I'd have no problem whatsoever going BPA. Almost included G, but I think it's both addressable in FA and the least panic-inducing of the "needs" -- more of a "want", really. As much as I don't love the Ford pick, I think he deserves one more season to sink or swim... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 37 minutes ago, IgotBILLStopay said: And where is the discussion in the context of Beane reaching out to Jarran Reed. I dont see that in the thread "Jarran Reed to Chiefs"? That being said, I do apologize again since the thread clearly offends you. Apology accepted. Don’t do it again. there is more talk of cornerbacks in this thread than of DTs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arm of Harm Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, glazeduck said: Almost included G, but I think it's both addressable in FA and the least panic-inducing of the "needs" -- more of a "want", really. As much as I don't love the Ford pick, I think he deserves one more season to sink or swim... During the regular season the Bills' OL did well in pass protection but not so well in run blocking. During the postseason the OL did badly at both. That sticks in my craw. Makes me want to do something to improve the situation. OG is the most obvious place to start! I'm not saying the OGs we have now are necessarily bad. You can get by with them if you have to. But if the Bills were to use their first round pick on a quality OG, there'd definitely be a great opportunity for him to provide a significant upgrade in play over what we're getting now. Edited March 30, 2021 by Arm of Harm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazeduck Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Arm of Harm said: During the regular season the Bills' OL did well in pass protection but not so well in run blocking. During the postseason the OL did badly at both. That sticks in my craw. Makes me want to do something to improve the situation. OG is the most obvious place to start! I'm not saying the OGs we have now are necessarily bad. You can get by with them if you have to. But if the Bills were to use their first round pick on a quality OG, there'd definitely be a great opportunity for him to provide a significant upgrade in play over what we're getting now. Agree, to an extent. I like Wyatt Davis a lot and if the board is right, could see him being had in a trade down. To me it comes down to 4 things, given how our roster is shaping out prior to the draft (assuming no trades)... 1. Are you using your draft pick to make the biggest improvement to the team that you can? 2. What spots can you allow to stay "good enough" in order to see a larger improvement elsewhere? 3. When and where can you *coast* on being good enough through the season, in opting for higher upside picks that you hope are ready to make a bigger impact come playoff time? 4. To a lesser extent, where is the draft's depth, where you might be able to get a better value pick and how does that play in to the above 3? I think you can ask these questions about just about every position and come out with some interesting answers. Certainly guard, nose, edge, RB, TE, CB, LB/nickel, OT can all be upgraded, but I also think even without upgrades we're a playoff team. So where can you lean into that and start looking at how to optimize those picks and maximize the return? I'm not sure I even have a strongly formed opinion outside of trading up for Pitts if he slides out of the top 10... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 The Bills have two glaring needs. One on each side of the ball: Offense: They need to be able to run the ball better, and free agency showed they actually re-signed their existing O-Line, so that leaves RB via the draft. Defense: They need to be able to rush the QB better, and again here free agency showed they subtracted from but didn't add to the D-Line, so that leaves DE via the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Anybody else starting to think we might go DT at 30 in the draft? I'm not so sure anymore the Bills take a RB there and I don't expect any of the top DE's to fall that far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said: Anybody else starting to think we might go DT at 30 in the draft? I'm not so sure anymore the Bills take a RB there and I don't expect any of the top DE's to fall that far If the right guy was available but I don't see anyone who lines up with the value at that spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 I think they are def looking at DT in the draft....hopefully a legit 1 Tech 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I think they are def looking at DT in the draft....hopefully a legit 1 Tech I have no doubt they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) 36 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said: Anybody else starting to think we might go DT at 30 in the draft? I'm not so sure anymore the Bills take a RB there and I don't expect any of the top DE's to fall that far It's not a good year for DTs, I doubt no more than 2 get drafted in the 1st round. Personally I'd rather get a CB or DE or OL or RB or maybe TE. Edited March 30, 2021 by The Jokeman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: It's not a good year for DTs, I doubt no more than 2 get drafted in the 1st round. Personally I'd rather get a CB or DE or OL or RB or maybe TE. It’s not a good year for 1st rd DTs. It’s actually a pretty good draft for 1T DTs imo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, NewEra said: It’s not a good year for 1st rd DTs. It’s actually a pretty good draft for 1T DTs imo. I suppose, I'd take a flier on Bobby Brown III in the 5th but not a fan drafting a DT sooner than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 58 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said: Anybody else starting to think we might go DT at 30 in the draft? I'm not so sure anymore the Bills take a RB there and I don't expect any of the top DE's to fall that far If they do, then who's gonna rush the passer? You can say that Star doesn't have a long future, but the same and then some would be true of Hughes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arm of Harm Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, NewEra said: Apology accepted. Don’t do it again. there is more talk of cornerbacks in this thread than of DTs Not sure why he's apologizing or why you're accepting his apology. This has turned into a good, constructive thread about the Bills' needs at DL and elsewhere. We need more threads like this in the offseason, not less. Edited March 30, 2021 by Arm of Harm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Arm of Harm said: Not sure why he's apologizing or why you're accepting his apology. This has turned into a good, constructive thread about the Bills' needs at DL and elsewhere. We need more threads like this in the offseason, not less. Makes perfect sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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