JGMcD2 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: Yea. I guess it’s fair to say the FA class wasn’t nearly as good as it is this offseason. Not guna beat the dead horse again, but Addison should be on the market as well right now. Yeah at his salary I agree... but I’m not sure there are many clear upgrades for the production to pay ratio after he took his pay cut. I may be wrong... I’ll admit if I am wrong... I just didn’t think anyone else was that elite where it was a clear upgrade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Rico said: "Damn straight!" 48 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: They were horrible, the restructures make it better, but that money would have been better spent elsewhere Yeah, like on JJ Watt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 50 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: They were horrible, the restructures make it better, but that money would have been better spent elsewhere I don’t think they were “horrible”. They weren’t worth the money.....no doubt. Horrible Is a bit much imo. I was hoping we’d move on from Addison, but we wouldn’t save that much by cutting him. I thought Butler turned his game around in the 2nd half of the year and played a lot of solid 1Tech and his play at the 1 tech helped our D turn the corner down the stretch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Logic said: We'll have to agree to disagree that the Pats are doing a good job today. They're paying $48 million combined for Kendrick Bourne and Nelson Agholor, for starters. That's insanity. Every year there's a runaway "free agency winner", and veeerrrry rarely do that team's free agency contracts wind up looking smart/worthwhile in retrospect. Frankly, the Pats are spending like the drought era Bills. Big flashy moves for top-of-the-ticket free agents. Color me unimpressed. I recall the ball washing that the media was giving the jets after they overpaid for Bell, Mosley, and a washed up Ryan Kalil that whooollleee offseason before 2019..... good times. Edited March 16, 2021 by Stank_Nasty 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 16, 2021 Author Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 minute ago, NewEra said: I don’t think they were “horrible”. They weren’t worth the money.....no doubt. Horrible Is a bit much imo. I was hoping we’d move on from Addison, but we wouldn’t save that much by cutting him. I thought Butler turned his game around in the 2nd half of the year and played a lot of solid 1Tech and his play at the 1 tech helped our D turn the corner down the stretch. I was hopeful on Addison and missing Star was a big issue for our D, but the combined cost and McDs "rotation" pit too much money on marginal talents instead of good players Jmo of course and I can't really disagree with your thoughts, they are valid... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Just now, Reed83HOF said: I was hopeful on Addison and missing Star was a big issue for our D, but the combined cost and McDs "rotation" pit too much money on marginal talents instead of good players Jmo of course and I can't really disagree with your thoughts, they are valid... I agree 💯. We should’ve spent on one great player as opposed to a few middling vets to rotate. but think back.....who were we going to sign? There weren’t ANY big time stats to throw the money at. https://www.nfl.com/news/ten-pass-rushers-worth-pursuing-in-free-agency-2020-nfl-draft-0ap3000001102492 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I have a quiet interest in Trey Hendrickson for the Bills. But I'm pretty sure we can't afford to get into a bidding war I would be cool with the jets overpaying him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, NoSaint said: I would be cool with the jets overpaying him Are the Jets still gonna go after him after all their other signings, including Carl Lawson for what, $45M? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 16, 2021 Author Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 minute ago, NewEra said: I agree 💯. We should’ve spent on one great player as opposed to a few middling vets to rotate. but think back.....who were we going to sign? There weren’t ANY big time stats to throw the money at. https://www.nfl.com/news/ten-pass-rushers-worth-pursuing-in-free-agency-2020-nfl-draft-0ap3000001102492 I know we offered lawson similar money and he chose the phins (enjoy Houston buddy) but in hindsight Phillips was the man to resign... I will say, the jump this year was not really expected as much as it was so the thought of pushing it wasn't on my mind that much. No one foresaw Covid and it's affects on the cap, otherwise we would have had a huge chuck going into this year. Iirc, we were 5th in terms of cap percentage spent on DL this year. McD wants pressure with the front 4, says it every year and this is what we got...no beuno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 48 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: No clue on Star - Joe B is saying he might be gone now too... For the money Phillips and Lawson were better choices. I'm worried about 1T, Edge and WR Speed (he has to be able to catch the ball). Feel like CB is meant for the draft Phillips and Lawson had really poor seasons so that really worked out poorly for their teams. Star not being back? Irrelevant........as "meh" as he was in 2019 a street free agent might be able to beat him out at this point. Maybe Snacks will jump over from Green Bay for the minimum salary. And he's actually tackled a RB in the past 3 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 16, 2021 Author Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 minute ago, BADOLBILZ said: Phillips and Lawson had really poor seasons so that really worked out poorly for their teams. Star not being back? Irrelevant........as "meh" as he was in 2019 a street free agent might be able to beat him out at this point. Maybe Snacks will jump over from Green Bay for the minimum salary. And he's actually tackled a RB in the past 3 years. No disagreement on Star, the other 2 played well in our scheme, for the record I was on the let them walk side last year, but that being said, they did produce for us and played better (on our team) as opposed to the replacements. Results in 202 turned out to be: Another year in the same scheme > new team chasing FA dollars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: No disagreement on Star, the other 2 played well in our scheme, for the record I was on the let them walk side last year, but that being said, they did produce for us and played better (on our team) as opposed to the replacements. Results in 202 turned out to be: Another year in the same scheme > new team chasing FA dollars Shaq played out of his head in a contract run...........you had to know that as soon as he got to a place with a bag of money and more Popeye's per square mile he'd slow down. I thought they milked Phillips for all the production they were going to get.........I wasn't a believer that he was going to be able to sustain anything. He started out hot though.......but then the other shoe dropped. Really fat guy on relatively skinny legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 8 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: No clue on Star - Joe B is saying he might be gone now too... For the money Phillips and Lawson were better choices. I'm worried about 1T, Edge and WR Speed (he has to be able to catch the ball). Feel like CB is meant for the draft If they cut Star, they will be even more desperate to replace him. They need at least two space eaters. A starter and a backup. Last year this was their biggest weakness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 9 hours ago, Logic said: We'll have to agree to disagree that the Pats are doing a good job today. They're paying $48 million combined for Kendrick Bourne and Nelson Agholor, for starters. That's insanity. Every year there's a runaway "free agency winner", and veeerrrry rarely do that team's free agency contracts wind up looking smart/worthwhile in retrospect. Frankly, the Pats are spending like the drought era Bills. Big flashy moves for top-of-the-ticket free agents. Color me unimpressed. It’s evident they are choosing bigger taller FA as BB knows Cam is inaccurate, and needs targets with a large catch radius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetkings01 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 10 hours ago, ScottLaw said: Well...the Bills did the same last year.... We did go 13-3 last year tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Both out performed for their contract years, but this year, they both stunk (Phillips and Shaq). Star was more important than many wanted to admit in 2019. We had the 3rd best defense in yards in 2019, and 2nd best in points. Star played his part. If he really wants to retire, I would understand, but he’d leave a lot of $ on the table amd he’s only 31. If retiring, we would need a 1 technique guy either in FA, or in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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