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BillStime Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Some Republicans Break From Trump's Attempt To Rewrite Jan. 6 Insurrection “I think that what people saw with their own eyes reflects a different reality,” Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas) said Monday when asked if he had concerns such rhetoric could lead to future violence. CC: Uh oh @B-Man - you’re failing your masters narrative 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 7 hours ago, B-Man said: This is actually a good article and mostly aligns with my views. It doesn't let Trump off the hook like so many on here are trying to do. It also recognizes it's a political club being used by Democrats trying to keep it alive Benghazi style. Second, I bow to nobody in my view that the Capitol riot was indefensible, that it involved lawbreaking and both real and threatened violence, that it targeted and disrupted an essential process in the peaceful transition of power, and that Donald Trump bears moral and political responsibility for it. Trump was responsible not only for his incendiary speech but for a two-month course of conduct consisting of (1) claiming, loudly and falsely, that the election was stolen; (2) continuing to contest the election result through every available forum for two months; (3) not limiting his contest of the election to the legally legitimate channels for an election contest; (4) focusing attention on the in-person gathering of the entire Congress and the vice president to count the electoral votes on January 6 as a point of vulnerability to mob pressure; and (5) specifically violating his oath to the Constitution by the attempt to get the vice president to unilaterally prevent the counting of electoral votes. I said at the time, and still believe, that Trump was properly impeached for this and should have been convicted. I said at the time, and still believe, that the maximum available punishments should be used against everyone who broke the law that day, in order to show for all time that this should never be repeated. I said at the time, and still believe, that a great many societies in human history would rationally have reacted to such an event by placing the heads of Trump and the rioters on pikes around the Capitol as a warning to others. He also realizes the cynical play by the Dems which could be effective as Trump continues to get back into the public eye when the Republican politicians are dying to move on from him. The temptation to keep January 6 alive as a never-ending partisan club in order to preserve the Trump-centric voter dynamics of the 2020 election and avoid contesting the 2022 elections around the current president and the current Congress. That undoubtedly is why unprincipled political operatives seem devoted to the “January 6 was worse than September 11” talking point. Never mind that 3,000 Americans died; the important thing is that Republicans won the 2002 and 2004 elections on the strength of George W. Bush’s response to the September 11 attacks. For Democrats still sore at that — and in particular for Democrats who were Republicans then and see money to be made now off January 6 — the desire to repeat that has overwhelmed their basic sense of decency and proportion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 10 hours ago, BillStime said: Can you say George Floyd? 3 hours ago, Doc Brown said: This is actually a good article and mostly aligns with my views. It doesn't let Trump off the hook like so many on here are trying to do. It also recognizes it's a political club being used by Democrats trying to keep it alive Benghazi style. Second, I bow to nobody in my view that the Capitol riot was indefensible, that it involved lawbreaking and both real and threatened violence, that it targeted and disrupted an essential process in the peaceful transition of power, and that Donald Trump bears moral and political responsibility for it. Trump was responsible not only for his incendiary speech but for a two-month course of conduct consisting of (1) claiming, loudly and falsely, that the election was stolen; (2) continuing to contest the election result through every available forum for two months; (3) not limiting his contest of the election to the legally legitimate channels for an election contest; (4) focusing attention on the in-person gathering of the entire Congress and the vice president to count the electoral votes on January 6 as a point of vulnerability to mob pressure; and (5) specifically violating his oath to the Constitution by the attempt to get the vice president to unilaterally prevent the counting of electoral votes. I said at the time, and still believe, that Trump was properly impeached for this and should have been convicted. I said at the time, and still believe, that the maximum available punishments should be used against everyone who broke the law that day, in order to show for all time that this should never be repeated. I said at the time, and still believe, that a great many societies in human history would rationally have reacted to such an event by placing the heads of Trump and the rioters on pikes around the Capitol as a warning to others. He also realizes the cynical play by the Dems which could be effective as Trump continues to get back into the public eye when the Republican politicians are dying to move on from him. The temptation to keep January 6 alive as a never-ending partisan club in order to preserve the Trump-centric voter dynamics of the 2020 election and avoid contesting the 2022 elections around the current president and the current Congress. That undoubtedly is why unprincipled political operatives seem devoted to the “January 6 was worse than September 11” talking point. Never mind that 3,000 Americans died; the important thing is that Republicans won the 2002 and 2004 elections on the strength of George W. Bush’s response to the September 11 attacks. For Democrats still sore at that — and in particular for Democrats who were Republicans then and see money to be made now off January 6 — the desire to repeat that has overwhelmed their basic sense of decency and proportion. Yawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Doc Brown said: This is actually a good article and mostly aligns with my views. It doesn't let Trump off the hook like so many on here are trying to do. It also recognizes it's a political club being used by Democrats trying to keep it alive Benghazi style. Second, I bow to nobody in my view that the Capitol riot was indefensible, that it involved lawbreaking and both real and threatened violence, that it targeted and disrupted an essential process in the peaceful transition of power, and that Donald Trump bears moral and political responsibility for it. Trump was responsible not only for his incendiary speech but for a two-month course of conduct consisting of (1) claiming, loudly and falsely, that the election was stolen; (2) continuing to contest the election result through every available forum for two months; (3) not limiting his contest of the election to the legally legitimate channels for an election contest; (4) focusing attention on the in-person gathering of the entire Congress and the vice president to count the electoral votes on January 6 as a point of vulnerability to mob pressure; and (5) specifically violating his oath to the Constitution by the attempt to get the vice president to unilaterally prevent the counting of electoral votes. I said at the time, and still believe, that Trump was properly impeached for this and should have been convicted. I said at the time, and still believe, that the maximum available punishments should be used against everyone who broke the law that day, in order to show for all time that this should never be repeated. I said at the time, and still believe, that a great many societies in human history would rationally have reacted to such an event by placing the heads of Trump and the rioters on pikes around the Capitol as a warning to others. He also realizes the cynical play by the Dems which could be effective as Trump continues to get back into the public eye when the Republican politicians are dying to move on from him. The temptation to keep January 6 alive as a never-ending partisan club in order to preserve the Trump-centric voter dynamics of the 2020 election and avoid contesting the 2022 elections around the current president and the current Congress. That undoubtedly is why unprincipled political operatives seem devoted to the “January 6 was worse than September 11” talking point. Never mind that 3,000 Americans died; the important thing is that Republicans won the 2002 and 2004 elections on the strength of George W. Bush’s response to the September 11 attacks. For Democrats still sore at that — and in particular for Democrats who were Republicans then and see money to be made now off January 6 — the desire to repeat that has overwhelmed their basic sense of decency and proportion. A good summation but what's missing is context. And I'll keep my comments to setting that context. And that context is these protesters have experienced the opposition lying, cheating, and stealing for 4 1/2 years. Breaking all kinds of laws like falsifying warrants, falsifying intelligence, leaking sensitive national security information, planting false stories in the press, letting sympathetic protest groups get away with murder, and so much more. And yet not a single person has been charged, tried, or convicting of anything. Like "made men" in the mob these wrongdoers are protected by the system. While they are not. They've watched the corporate media lie about everything, ignore other things, and dismiss anything that didn't fit their narratives. They've witnessed big tech weaponizing social media against them, suppressing and censoring all opposition ideas. And in a lot of cases these platforms have spread lies and misinformation themselves. All without consequences. They've sat through two impeachment hearings authorized on the flimsiest of charges all for political show. They've heard officials like Maxine Waters telling her supporters to "get in people's faces" and to get "confrontational" and see her get away unquestioned by the media. The same media that descended on Trump when he spoke in similar fashion charging he was inciting violence. They've watched BLM and Antifa groups burn, loot, destroy, steal, beat and kill people and get away with all of it by friendly state and local governments knowing damn well if they participated in that behavior they'd see the full weight of the law come down on them. Basically, they've watched the administration they supported get screwed up and down by the embedded powers inside and outside the government during the entire 4 year term. And then defeated in an election almost half the country believes was fixed. That's the context. And given all that telling them here to play nice and follow all the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 12 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: A good summation but what's missing is context. And I'll keep my comments to setting that context. And that context is these protesters have experienced the opposition lying, cheating, and stealing for 4 1/2 years. Breaking all kinds of laws like falsifying warrants, falsifying intelligence, leaking sensitive national security information, planting false stories in the press, letting sympathetic protest groups get away with murder, and so much more. And yet not a single person has been charged, tried, or convicting of anything. Like "made men" in the mob these wrongdoers are protected by the system. While they are not. They've watched the corporate media lie about everything, ignore other things, and dismiss anything that didn't fit their narratives. They've witnessed big tech weaponizing social media against them, suppressing and censoring all opposition ideas. And in a lot of cases these platforms have spread lies and misinformation themselves. All without consequences. They've sat through two impeachment hearings authorized on the flimsiest of charges all for political show. They've heard officials like Maxine Waters telling her supporters to "get in people's faces" and to get "confrontational" and see her get away unquestioned by the media. The same media that descended on Trump when he spoke in similar fashion charging he was inciting violence. They've watched BLM and Antifa groups burn, loot, destroy, steal, beat and kill people and get away with all of it by friendly state and local governments knowing damn well if they participated in that behavior they'd see the full weight of the law come down on them. Basically, they've watched the administration they supported get screwed up and down by the embedded powers inside and outside the government during the entire 4 year term. And then defeated in an election almost half the country believes was fixed. That's the context. And given all that telling them here to play nice and follow all the rules. Holy smokes - Trump pissed all over the constitution and used the American flag as toilet paper. Please stop w the bs - Trump is a con and you are a sucker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, BillStime said: Holy smokes - Trump pissed all over the constitution and used the American flag as toilet paper. Please stop w the bs - Trump is a con and you are a sucker. As everything I said was true it would appear there's enough "pissing on the Constitution" to go around. The issue is Trump seems like the only guy being held to account. Why is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Just now, All_Pro_Bills said: As everything I said was true it would appear there's enough "pissing on the Constitution" to go around. The issue is Trump seems like the only guy being held to account. Why is that? Why do you think that is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, BillStime said: Why do you think that is? Because of idiots like you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 11 minutes ago, Bidens_basement said: Because of idiots like you Rent free bro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Just now, BillStime said: Rent free bro Yep, in your head sis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Just now, Bidens_basement said: Yep, in your head sis Rent free precious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, BillStime said: Rent free precious You’re my favorite piñata 👍🏻 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Just now, Bidens_basement said: You’re my favorite piñata 👍🏻 😘 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BillStime Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, B-Man said: It should come out of Trumps campaign fund 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beach Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 37 minutes ago, BillStime said: It should come out of Trumps campaign fund why 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 8 minutes ago, Beach said: why Because he is fixated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, B-Man said: Because he is fixated. We all know when Bonnie super spams the board it’s a given he is on the wrong side of the issue… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Any libs know how many guns were confiscated on the the worst attack on this country on 1/6? Any libs want to answer that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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