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3 hours ago, GaryPinC said:

The biggest thing for me with Biden is to keep his word on bipartisanship and unlock Congress.  He's off to a good start.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mcconnell-relents-on-senate-rules-signals-power-sharing-deal-with-democrats/ar-BB1d5y4q?scrlybrkr=3d4498da&ocid=uxbndlbing

 

Did the Dems need to do this?  Nope and small minded people would point to the past as an excuse not to.  But, confirming there's an adult leading the white house making the kids on either side play nice.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/white-house-signals-it-could-agree-to-more-narrowly-targeted-stimulus-checks/ar-BB1d6V4g?li=BBnb7Kz
Yep, Trump wanted the full 2k also.  Definitely target the people who truly need it the most and cut the price tag.  Win-win.

Clearly a huge benefit of Biden's age is he remembers the value of negotiations.  Encouraging, let's hope he sticks with it.

 

The answer as to why the Dems needed to do this is contained in the article you linked. 

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6 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

The answer as to why the Dems needed to do this is contained in the article you linked. 

The answer as to why it made sense for the Dems to do it is contained there.  They could easily have taken the more painful route if they chose.

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1 minute ago, GaryPinC said:

The answer as to why it made sense for the Dems to do it is contained there.  They could easily have taken the more painful route if they chose.

 

Yeah, it made sense for them to do it and the alternative wasn't in their best interest.  The point being, it had nothing to do with senile Joe.

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THEY’LL HAVE HIM DO A BUNCH OF UNPOPULAR STUFF, THEN REPLACE HIM WITH KAMALA: 

 

Biden Becoming Less PopularWith Likely Voters Every Day--And So Are hHis Policies

 

“Biden’s first Daily Presidential Tracking Poll put him into negative approval territory at -2.

 

It has gotten worse. On Monday, he dropped to -4. Tuesday, he moved down again to -5.

 

This trend is quite a feat. President Trump started at +2 and rose to +13 in the first days of his presidency.”

 

In his last daily tracking poll, Trump was at +3.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Just now, B-Man said:

 

 

 

 

You still angry you lost? The votes are what mattered and it looks like Biden was more popular than Trump. Not hard to be more popular than a terrorist... Thanks for making it easy with your crazy friends running around.

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2 hours ago, B-Man said:

THEY’LL HAVE HIM DO A BUNCH OF UNPOPULAR STUFF, THEN REPLACE HIM WITH KAMALA: 

 

Biden Becoming Less PopularWith Likely Voters Every Day--And So Are hHis Policies

 

“Biden’s first Daily Presidential Tracking Poll put him into negative approval territory at -2.

 

It has gotten worse. On Monday, he dropped to -4. Tuesday, he moved down again to -5.

 

This trend is quite a feat. President Trump started at +2 and rose to +13 in the first days of his presidency.”

 

In his last daily tracking poll, Trump was at +3.

 

Talk about being duped by a candidate...

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On 1/27/2021 at 1:26 PM, TBBills said:

You still angry you lost? The votes are what mattered and it looks like Biden was more popular than Trump. Not hard to be more popular than a terrorist... Thanks for making it easy with your crazy friends running around.

 

Are you calling some people of this board crazy? Respect B-Man.

 

I'll tell you what I do. Help out the local people in a caring friendly way to help locally.  Help out the older people along friends and family. Watch Football, look up football things. (let's go Bill's) Listen to the Bona game on the radio. Play games with my friends xbox. Watch tv shows Shameless lol, look up things to better myself for happiness. Be a all around people for others help speak up for people.  Be a loving, intelligent, helpful person each day. So much more good.

 

Don't think that's crazy at all. lol

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Thanks for the thumbs down TBBills Not sure besides you're hate. Helped older people as well. Around I live they need it, losing there love life. Was there for them..  Still always remember there memory's. How person I am.  Give me a thumbs down I don't care. I was there for others losing everything. Unsure you're path but was there. Call me whatever u like. But was there.

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Hubris: Elites brazenly gloat they rigged election ...and that's good news for us

by Monica Showalter

 

 

If one of us had declared that a "cabal" of elites, composed of Big Corporate, Big Labor, Big Tech, Big Green, and Black Lives Matter had all conspired to rig the 2020 election, we'd have been called nuts. We'd be tinfoil hatters, far-right loonies, and denizens of the dreaded QAnon. But surprise, surprise, the cabal has come out of the closet in a shocking piece that ran in Time magazine titled: "The Secret Bipartisan History of the Shadow Campaign that Saved the 2020 Election" by Democrat-with-byline Molly Ball

 

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/02/hubris_elites_brazenly_gloat_they_rigged_election__and_why_thats_good_news_for_us.html

 

 

 

 

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17 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Hubris: Elites brazenly gloat they rigged election ...and that's good news for us

by Monica Showalter

 

 

If one of us had declared that a "cabal" of elites, composed of Big Corporate, Big Labor, Big Tech, Big Green, and Black Lives Matter had all conspired to rig the 2020 election, we'd have been called nuts. We'd be tinfoil hatters, far-right loonies, and denizens of the dreaded QAnon. But surprise, surprise, the cabal has come out of the closet in a shocking piece that ran in Time magazine titled: "The Secret Bipartisan History of the Shadow Campaign that Saved the 2020 Election" by Democrat-with-byline Molly Ball

 

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/02/hubris_elites_brazenly_gloat_they_rigged_election__and_why_thats_good_news_for_us.html

 

 

 

 

I read the Time article this thing is attacking, and it says nothing of the sort:

 

https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

 

Instead, it tells us that some Democratic strategist wisely saw that Trump was planning to contest the election long before it was held, and that they'd started working on a counter strategy. The obviously played their hand better. The Trump team's contest went from arcane legal arguments ("state election officials altered voting rules without the express consent of their legislatures") to public hissy fits ("I won by a lot") to fever dream nonsense that was indistinguishable from having our very own Deranged Rhino as his litigation and PR strategist.

 

I've been thinking about this. Biden clearly isn't a charismatic leader; he's no Obama, and not even a Trump. Harris is actually remarkably unpopular. COVID notwithstanding, there was a clear path to victory for Trump if only he'd played his cards right:

- recognize COVID as the threat that it was. Adopt a take-charge attitude. "Hunker down, Operation Warp Speed is on the way, I am leading the charge to put this disease behind us." 

- take credit for the stimulus payments, extension of unemployment benefits, etc.

- encourage mask wearing, social distancing, etc., and practice what you preach

- focus on how America, under your guidance, is leading the charge to put this pandemic behind us, rather than on blaming China and acting like a victim of China.

 

There was a brief moment -- a couple of weeks -- when Trump's approval ratings ticked up right after he began his COVID Task Force Press conferences, just like Cuomo's did. But then those descended into more crap about how he's not being treated fairly and is a victim of the China Virus, ultimately turning into self-parody with the injecting disinfectant nonsense. And of course, with his own stupidity and arrogance causing him to be hospitalized with the very disease he claimed was nothing to be overly concerned about.

 

He had a chance. He was too dumb, too bull-headed, too narcissistic to ever change tack. 

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50 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Hubris: Elites brazenly gloat they rigged election ...and that's good news for us

by Monica Showalter

 

 

If one of us had declared that a "cabal" of elites, composed of Big Corporate, Big Labor, Big Tech, Big Green, and Black Lives Matter had all conspired to rig the 2020 election, we'd have been called nuts. We'd be tinfoil hatters, far-right loonies, and denizens of the dreaded QAnon. But surprise, surprise, the cabal has come out of the closet in a shocking piece that ran in Time magazine titled: "The Secret Bipartisan History of the Shadow Campaign that Saved the 2020 Election" by Democrat-with-byline Molly Ball

 

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/02/hubris_elites_brazenly_gloat_they_rigged_election__and_why_thats_good_news_for_us.html

 

 

 

 

This is the reason you should do your own research before linking propaganda articles that have clearly fooled your feeble mind.

 

I think you should write a nasty letter to the Americanthinker and tell them how you embarrassed yourself with their misinformation.

 

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1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said:

 

 

1 hour ago, TBBills said:

 

 

 

 

ON THAT TIME MAGAZINE ARTICLE: Time on the vast conspiracy to “save” the 2020 election before it even took place.

 

Looking at the people on the board of the Voter Protection Program,( https://voterprotectionprogram.org/bipartisan-advisory-board/)

 

it is immediately apparent that it is, as expected, a combination of Democrats and of RINOs extraordinaire. The bulk of the latter consist of old Bush and McCain aides, many of whom backed John Kasich in the Republican race in 2016. There is an emphasis on lawfare to make sure that the innovations in voting rules that reduced voting security were defended in court, and on working with attorneys general of the various states. The Republicans on the board are people who have made themselves available to give a bipartisan face to the war against President Trump, and no doubt they were extremely eager to disassociate from him and work to destroy him in 2020.

 

Some people writing about the article indicate that it’s an admission that the participants gamed the election in various ways to enable Biden’s win. But the article does not admit that. It does something far more devious – it claims that everything this group did was non-partisan, had absolutely nothing to do with wanting Biden elected, and was merely for the noble purpose of guaranteeing a fair election and making sure people didn’t believe Trump’s conspiracy claims which they of course knew would be false even before the election occurred.

 

And to do this, they paradoxically helped to relax the election rules so much that actual fraud and/or claims of fraud would be far more likely, and they did that only for the very noble purpose of stopping the nefarious “voter suppression” the GOP was trying to accomplish.

 

You see, all efforts at voter security can be re-defined as voter suppression, and many courts will buy it.

 

This is the sort of thing the left and the current Democratic Party (as well as the self-righteous NeverTrumpers) specialize in. They define Trump as evil and any effort to stop him as noble rather than biased, because they are stopping evil and lies.

 

Still, since the article reads like a confirmation of what the right has been saying all along about the Democrats’ and their allies’ efforts to undermine Trump, why publish it?

 

Read the whole thing

 

https://www.thenewneo.com/2021/02/06/time-on-the-vast-conspiracy-to-save-the-2020-election-before-it-even-took-place/

 

 

Sounds familiar ?

 

exactly the sort of false arguments posted above mine.

 

 

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry, you post any credibility you may have had with your string of propaganda that has been proven false over and over. When you get really mad at that you post political propaganda cartoons which mean absolutely nothing in reality.

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8 minutes ago, TBBills said:

Sorry, you post any credibility you may have had with your string of propaganda that has been proven false over and over.

 

When you get really mad at that you post political propaganda cartoons which mean absolutely nothing in reality.

 

string of propaganda that has been proven false over and over.

political propaganda cartoons which mean absolutely nothing in reality.

 

Explanation: Things that tbbills does not want to face, or read, or understand.

 

sad  (and funny)

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On 2/7/2021 at 12:57 PM, The Frankish Reich said:

I read the Time article this thing is attacking, and it says nothing of the sort:

 

https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

 

Instead, it tells us that some Democratic strategist wisely saw that Trump was planning to contest the election long before it was held, and that they'd started working on a counter strategy. The obviously played their hand better. The Trump team's contest went from arcane legal arguments ("state election officials altered voting rules without the express consent of their legislatures") to public hissy fits ("I won by a lot") to fever dream nonsense that was indistinguishable from having our very own Deranged Rhino as his litigation and PR strategist.

 

I've been thinking about this. Biden clearly isn't a charismatic leader; he's no Obama, and not even a Trump. Harris is actually remarkably unpopular. COVID notwithstanding, there was a clear path to victory for Trump if only he'd played his cards right:

- recognize COVID as the threat that it was. Adopt a take-charge attitude. "Hunker down, Operation Warp Speed is on the way, I am leading the charge to put this disease behind us." 

- take credit for the stimulus payments, extension of unemployment benefits, etc.

- encourage mask wearing, social distancing, etc., and practice what you preach

- focus on how America, under your guidance, is leading the charge to put this pandemic behind us, rather than on blaming China and acting like a victim of China.

 

There was a brief moment -- a couple of weeks -- when Trump's approval ratings ticked up right after he began his COVID Task Force Press conferences, just like Cuomo's did. But then those descended into more crap about how he's not being treated fairly and is a victim of the China Virus, ultimately turning into self-parody with the injecting disinfectant nonsense. And of course, with his own stupidity and arrogance causing him to be hospitalized with the very disease he claimed was nothing to be overly concerned about.

 

He had a chance. He was too dumb, too bull-headed, too narcissistic to ever change tack. 

 

It's hard for an incumbent POTUS to NOT get re-elected.   All Trump had to do was demonstrate some leadership and some compassion by doing the things that you listed.  He didn't do those things because he's a stupid, spoiled f-up who has bullied and lied his way out of his failures all his life.  Now, he's failed again, both as POTUS and as a wannabe dictator leading a coup d'etat.

 

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On 2/11/2021 at 3:54 PM, SoTier said:

 

It's hard for an incumbent POTUS to NOT get re-elected.   All Trump had to do was demonstrate some leadership and some compassion by doing the things that you listed.  He didn't do those things because he's a stupid, spoiled f-up who has bullied and lied his way out of his failures all his life.  Now, he's failed again, both as POTUS and as a wannabe dictator leading a coup d'etat.

 

The election was stolen, it wouldnt have mattered if Trump had 100 million votes and Biden had 1 million votes. The Dems were going to make sure they did everything they could to have the election stolen, if you think other wise your dumb, ignorant and blind. 

 

You idiots got what you wanted and this turd of a POTUS has been a train wreck since day 1 and getting worse, yay!

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46 minutes ago, Big Gun said:

The election was stolen, it wouldnt have mattered if Trump had 100 million votes and Biden had 1 million votes. The Dems were going to make sure they did everything they could to have the election stolen, if you think other wise your dumb, ignorant and blind. 

 

You idiots got what you wanted and this turd of a POTUS has been a train wreck since day 1 and getting worse, yay!

Yeah Dems stole the election but lost ground in the House for....reasons?

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