Pokebball Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 1 minute ago, BillStime said: I paid 100% of my student loan debt and interest during the time I owned it. How did this ever become a controversial thing? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, Pokebball said: I paid 100% of my student loan debt and interest during the time I owned it. How did this ever become a controversial thing? I paid mine, too. If we can forgive PPP loans (and lose track of $100 BILLION); we can forgive those who need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, BillStime said: I paid mine, too. If we can forgive PPP loans (and lose track of $100 BILLION); we can forgive those who need it. You can't compare world pandemic economic recovery programs that were designed to be forgiven to every day loans we've had for decades. Student loans? How 'bout mortgages? How 'bout car loans? How about blue collar small business loans for the guy that changes your oil? The right bipartisan vote on this one! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 13 minutes ago, Pokebball said: I paid 100% of my student loan debt and interest during the time I owned it. How did this ever become a controversial thing? Same. Let's be clear. This isn't student loan forgiveness. This is just transferring the loan to the taxpayer. Why should people who have nothing to do with the loan have to pay for it. Just a vote buying scheme by Biden. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, Pokebball said: You can't compare world pandemic economic recovery programs that were designed to be forgiven to every day loans we've had for decades. Student loans? How 'bout mortgages? How 'bout car loans? How about blue collar small business loans for the guy that changes your oil? The right bipartisan vote on this one! Why? im not thrilled with the policy, but you can’t deny that massive student debt is hampering young Americans’ ability to have kids and start their lives 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: Why? im not thrilled with the policy, but you can’t deny that massive student debt is hampering young Americans’ ability to have kids and start their lives bingo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Why? im not thrilled with the policy, but you can’t deny that massive student debt is hampering young Americans’ ability to have kids and start their lives Then why not any other debt of a taxpayer? Why chose just one type of debt or one demographic? Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Why? im not thrilled with the policy, but you can’t deny that massive student debt is hampering young Americans’ ability to have kids and start their lives How 'bout they start their lives by living up to obligations they committed to? This situation is analogous to the border situation. If we continue to allow failed governments to send their people here, we fail to solve the problem, which is those failed governments that need to be fixed internally. If we forgive promissory, legally binding obligations, we fail to solve the problem of ridiculously inflated college tuition costs. It is not the US taxpayers burden to solve other problems. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 1 minute ago, sherpa said: How 'bout they start their lives by living up to obligations they committed to? This situation is analogous to the border situation. If we continue to allow failed governments to send their people here, we fail to solve the problem, which is those failed governments that need to be fixed internally. If we forgive promissory, legally binding obligations, we fail to solve the problem of ridiculously inflated college tuition costs. It is not the US taxpayers burden to solve other problems. I guess, but it’s becoming an economic problem either way. Many degrees nowadays require very expensive equipment, which drives up college costs. It’s not like the old days where your equipment was a slide rule and a lab coat; computer science labs need to have the most cutting edge equipment. 2 minutes ago, Pokebball said: Then why not any other debt of a taxpayer? Why chose just one type of debt or one demographic? Why? Because it is negatively affecting the generation that’s supposed to inherit the country from the boomers and Gen Xers 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: Because it is negatively affecting the generation that’s supposed to inherit the country from the boomers and Gen Xers At the expense of blue collar boomers and Gen Xers? You realize that there are more boomers and gen xers without degrees than there are with, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 1 minute ago, SUNY_amherst said: "IF you have student loan debt".... basically every tax contributing American from 25-45 13% of americans have student loan debt, compared to 100% of basically every tax contributing american that has some kind of debt 8 minutes ago, Roundybout said: I guess, but it’s becoming an economic problem either way. Many degrees nowadays require very expensive equipment, which drives up college costs. It’s not like the old days where your equipment was a slide rule and a lab coat; computer science labs need to have the most cutting edge equipment. Because it is negatively affecting the generation that’s supposed to inherit the country from the boomers and Gen Xers Accountability is a negative for 13% of americans? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, SUNY_amherst said: keyword "tax contributing".. if you are 25-45 without a college degree, you likely are too poor to be taxed What the? You didn’t honestly just say that did you? Geeez! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 1 minute ago, SUNY_amherst said: keyword "tax contributing".. if you are 25-45 without a college degree, you likely are too poor to be taxed I don't ever expect you to agree with holding a person accountable for their personal debt. We obviously grew up in different cultures. Great decision by the House on a bipartisan vote. Send 'em a personal donation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 9 minutes ago, Pokebball said: At the expense of blue collar boomers and Gen Xers? You realize that there are more boomers and gen xers without degrees than there are with, right? Yeah, and the economy has shifted completely since those heydays. A degree is necessary for a majority of professions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Just now, SoCal Deek said: What the? You didn’t honestly just say that did you? Geeez! What world do some of these folks live in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Just now, Roundybout said: Yeah, and the economy has shifted completely since those heydays. A degree is necessary for a majority of professions. Not in my world. But even so, repay your debt. 1 minute ago, SUNY_amherst said: Did you reply to my comment on accident or something? how is that a rebuttal to anything I said. Its cool if you made a mistake and meant that for someone else ignore it then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Just now, SUNY_amherst said: gladly. and you continue ranting nonsensically lol I don't feel the ignore...should I? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Did jokers moronic attempt to lower the repayment amount from 10% to 5% survive? Wouldn't doubt the fool would just make the problem way worse for people that though they were getting free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 37 minutes ago, Pokebball said: What world do some of these folks live in? Ya got me….on my street alone there are a number of people who didn’t go to college and they have garages worth more than SUNYs entire house! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 11 minutes ago, SUNY_amherst said: how would you even know that Because you live in Buffalo and property there is cheap. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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