Billsfan1972 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 (edited) 375, 4 TD's no picks, 80% completions and 139.1% Rating I get. Also somehow on ESPN they claimed he fumbled not Moss. I'd love to see all those posts I defended him in 2018 & 2019, blaming it on Daboll and the play calling holding him back and now we see how being aggressive and paying playmakers actually works in the NFL..... Who would have thought that????😜😉 Edited December 8, 2020 by Billsfan1972 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Billsfan1972 said: 375, 4 TD's no picks, 80% completions and 139.1% Rating I get. Also somehow on ESPN they claimed he fumbled not Moss. Josh fumbled an Dion recovered it. Maybe they mixed that up. The announcers had a few mixups too, called Matt- Mike, Brandon- Jeff and said the Bills started in good field position when they started at their own 10. 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, artmalibu said: Josh fumbled an Dion recovered it. Maybe they mixed that up. The announcers had a few mixups too, called Matt- Mike, Brandon- Jeff and said the Bills started in good field position when they started at their own 10. Thought I heard a “Ryan” McDermott, too 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Botched handoffs are credited to the QB by default, as they were the last to "control" the ball. Also the "fumble" recovered by Dion only stood that way because it wasn't a turnover and no use challenging. It would have been better for his stat line if Dion doesn't jump on it, so the fumble could have been removed on review as down by contact. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted December 8, 2020 Author Share Posted December 8, 2020 10 minutes ago, artmalibu said: Josh fumbled an Dion recovered it. Maybe they mixed that up. The announcers had a few mixups too, called Matt- Mike, Brandon- Jeff and said the Bills started in good field position when they started at their own 10. Yes I laughed at that (<1:00 left in the half). Another 5-6 seconds on the clock & they could have thrown one to the endzone. Yes one fumble, but the first one was certainly Moss, not Josh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 11 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Thought I heard a “Ryan” McDermott, too Thats why it’s best to mute announcers and listen to Bills radio feed, sure Murph screws stuff up and tasker is annoying 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Can someone explain QBR?? fixed that headline for you 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albanybillsbacker Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Funny part is that he didn’t actually fumble. He was down before it came out, but we gained a few yards back by dion recovering it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Did someone flick on a [LAMP]? 😳 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Tyrod was really good at QBR 🥴🥴 crap metric 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Useless stats ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 52 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Thought I heard a “Ryan” McDermott, too You did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Player Cmp Att Yds Comp TD Int Sk Rate Run Att Yds TD Josh Allen 32 40 375 80% 4 0 1 139.1 6 11 0 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Billsfan1972 said: 375, 4 TD's no picks, 80% completions and 139.1% Rating I get. Also somehow on ESPN they claimed he fumbled not Moss. I'd love to see all those posts I defended him in 2018 & 2019, blaming it on Daboll and the play calling holding him back and now we see how being aggressive and paying playmakers actually works in the NFL..... Who would have thought that????😜😉 The playcalling wasn't holding him back. It was exposing him to stuff to develop him. The Bills didn't slim anything back in 2019 they ran a full playbook and Josh made some mistakes.... but that is how I believe you develop an NFL QB. You don't hide him with a run game and the odd play action pass. You expose him to stuff let him make his mistakes and hope he goes away and learns. They were plenty aggressive in the playcalling in 2019 indeed there was an ardent crowd here who believed they were too aggressive and Josh should hand it off more. Daboll deserves a lot of credit for what they have done with Josh and his playcalling last night was excellent. Two of those touchdowns he schemed receivers wide open. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted December 8, 2020 Author Share Posted December 8, 2020 35 minutes ago, quinnearlysghost88 said: Can someone explain QBR?? fixed that headline for you FIxed the title too.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 53 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Thought I heard a “Ryan” McDermott, too I thought they said "Brian" McDermott? 13 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Tyrod was really good at QBR 🥴🥴 crap metric This is the answer. QBR sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Billsfan1972 said: 375, 4 TD's no picks, 80% completions and 139.1% Rating I get. Also somehow on ESPN they claimed he fumbled not Moss. I'd love to see all those posts I defended him in 2018 & 2019, blaming it on Daboll and the play calling holding him back and now we see how being aggressive and paying playmakers actually works in the NFL..... Who would have thought that????😜😉 the botched hand off was never in his Moss' hands ergo Josh gets the fumble Edited December 8, 2020 by SlimShady'sSpaceForce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted December 8, 2020 Author Share Posted December 8, 2020 Just now, GunnerBill said: The playcalling wasn't holding him back. It was exposing him to stuff to develop him. The Bills didn't slim anything back in 2019 they ran a full playbook and Josh made some mistakes.... but that is how I believe you develop an NFL QB. You don't hide him with a run game and the odd play action pass. You expose him to stuff let him make his mistakes and hope he goes away and learns. They were plenty aggressive in the playcalling in 2019 indeed there was an ardent crowd here who believed they were too aggressive and Josh should hand it off more. Daboll deserves a lot of credit for what they have done with Josh and his playcalling last night was excellent. Two of those touchdowns he schemed receivers wide open. Again agree to disagree..... The fact the Bills under McD, went 48 games unabale to throw for 300 yards a single time speaks volumes. And every once in a while we see the offeinse regress and play "scared" i.e. vs. KC & NE. An interesting comment during the game was noting that the Bills finally spent on offense and realized you can't win scoring <20 points/game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Billsfan1972 said: Again agree to disagree..... The fact the Bills under McD, went 48 games unabale to throw for 300 yards a single time speaks volumes. And every once in a while we see the offeinse regress and play "scared" i.e. vs. KC & NE. An interesting comment during the game was noting that the Bills finally spent on offense and realized you can't win scoring <20 points/game. On personnel I agree with you. And so does Brandon Beane. He admitted it himself in January that he did a "horrible job" with offensive personnel in 2018 and that while 2019 was better he still "needed to do a better job of giving Josh pieces." Stefon Diggs changes so much about the offense. That is what true #1 receivers do. They make everyone else's job easier. But the reason we didn't have the 300 yard games wasn't because we weren't aggressive. It was because our personnel wasn't up to it and Josh remained a work in progress. Josh was not capable of being who he is today right off the campus at Wyoming. He has developed brilliantly and to just say "ah well that has nothing to do with coaching" is nonsensical. 5 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Billsfan1972 said: 375, 4 TD's no picks, 80% completions and 139.1% Rating I get. Also somehow on ESPN they claimed he fumbled not Moss. I'd love to see all those posts I defended him in 2018 & 2019, blaming it on Daboll and the play calling holding him back and now we see how being aggressive and paying playmakers actually works in the NFL..... Who would have thought that????😜😉 80% is more impressive when you see he had 3 throw aways too. Hate that they credited the fumble to him and not Moss. Stud Game! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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