WEATHER DOT COM Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 On 12/7/2020 at 2:42 PM, Bidens_basement said: SCOTUS is the only court that counts. SCOTUS turned it down. Have you given up yet Westside? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unforgiven Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 ...Fraud.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Unforgiven said: ...Fraud.... For those keeping score at home, the author of that "report" Ramsland is the author of famous (infamous) Ellis/Powell/Wood lawsuit Exhibit 17 (17 being the letter Q) that mixed up MI and MN counties to conclude more people voted than could live in said counties. He's SUPER credible. Edited December 14, 2020 by shoshin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER DOT COM Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 hour ago, shoshin said: For those keeping score at home, the author of that "report" Ramsland is the author of famous (infamous) Ellis/Powell/Wood lawsuit Exhibit 17 (17 being the letter Q) that mixed up MI and MN counties to conclude more people voted than could live in said counties. He's SUPER credible. Yeah, but he said ...Fraud.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said: Yeah, but he said ...Fraud.... Frog? Or Fraud? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 On 12/11/2020 at 6:30 PM, Iron Maiden said: For the record, I am a Republican.....a Republican that despised Trump.....not all GOP members are completely crazy !.....We need to stay away from those wide statements....not all Dems are " level headed " either..... A big problem is that actual Republicans need to come out and call this BS what it is. 10 hours ago, shoshin said: For those keeping score at home, the author of that "report" Ramsland is the author of famous (infamous) Ellis/Powell/Wood lawsuit Exhibit 17 (17 being the letter Q) that mixed up MI and MN counties to conclude more people voted than could live in said counties. He's SUPER credible. Says they can't do a paper audit. Georgia: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Warcodered said: A big problem is that actual Republicans need to come out and call this BS what it is. Noting that the only Rs calling this out AND leaving the party over it are all leaving office. Such bravery. Tell me again it’s not about power and how all those supporting Trump are Patriots. I also see an element of people terrified to admit they were wrong and admit error these days. People are more afraid admitting they were wrong than actually being wrong. You can have supported Trump once upon a time but see what he attempted to do here as abhorrent. Quote Edited December 15, 2020 by shoshin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Former Houston police captain charged with pointing gun at air-conditioner repairman, believing he was a voter fraud 'mastermind' A former police captain who was part of a private citizens group investigating still unsubstantiated 2020 election fraud claims was charged Tuesday with running a man off the road and pointing a gun to his head two weeks before the election, the Harris County district attorney said in a statement. Prosecutors say former Houston Police captain Mark Anthony Aguirre said he believed the man was transporting fraudulent ballots. Prosecutors say Aguirre was paid over a quarter million dollars by a private group called "Liberty Center for God and Country" to investigate alleged ballot schemes in the Houston area. https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/16/us/former-houston-captain-vigilante-voter-fraud-incident/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, ALF said: Former Houston police captain charged with pointing gun at air-conditioner repairman, believing he was a voter fraud 'mastermind' A former police captain who was part of a private citizens group investigating still unsubstantiated 2020 election fraud claims was charged Tuesday with running a man off the road and pointing a gun to his head two weeks before the election, the Harris County district attorney said in a statement. Prosecutors say former Houston Police captain Mark Anthony Aguirre said he believed the man was transporting fraudulent ballots. Prosecutors say Aguirre was paid over a quarter million dollars by a private group called "Liberty Center for God and Country" to investigate alleged ballot schemes in the Houston area. https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/16/us/former-houston-captain-vigilante-voter-fraud-incident/index.html I wish I was paid over a quarter million dollars to investigate fake things. On 12/7/2020 at 2:42 PM, Bidens_basement said: SCOTUS is the only court that counts. So now that SCOTUS said no you gonna stop being brainwashed by Trump? You did say it is the only one that counts and they went against voter fraud. Edited December 16, 2020 by TBBills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unforgiven Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 ‘42,000 people in Nevada voted more than once’… Fraud??/?? This is your cnn mother this never happened go back to sleep sheeple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Unforgiven said: ‘42,000 people in Nevada voted more than once’… Fraud??/?? This is your cnn mother this never happened go back to sleep sheeple Proof? Of course you're not smart enough to know what Proof even means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted December 17, 2020 Author Share Posted December 17, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Unforgiven said: ‘42,000 people in Nevada voted more than once’… Fraud??/?? This is your cnn mother this never happened go back to sleep sheeple Even people, that had their preferred politician win, have to know we will never have public trust in our elections if we don’t try to verify voters...We also cannot allow non citizens to vote...This simply cannot happen...Democrats, Republicans and a Independents have to realize this or we are going to have MAJOR issues moving forward... Edited December 17, 2020 by JaCrispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Even people, that had their preferred politician win, have to know we will never have public trust in our elections if we don’t try to verify voters...We also cannot allow non citizens to vote...This simply cannot happen...Democrats, Republicans and a Independents have to realize this or we are going to have MAJOR issues moving forward... And 8 million Jets fans watched them beat the Bills in Oct... Edited December 17, 2020 by Motorin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 56 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Even people, that had their preferred politician win, have to know we will never have public trust in our elections if we don’t try to verify voters...We also cannot allow non citizens to vote...This simply cannot happen...Democrats, Republicans and a Independents have to realize this or we are going to have MAJOR issues moving forward... He doesn't have evidence of anything the guy is just talking and putting out whatever narrative he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted December 17, 2020 Author Share Posted December 17, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Motorin' said: And 8 million Jets fans watched them beat the Bills in Oct... I’m just saying that every law abiding citizen should want verification to vote, just so they have confidence they aren’t being disenfranchised- just like a bank teller verifying the account holder before a withdraw is made...this is the only way to have confidence in the system... 32 minutes ago, Warcodered said: He doesn't have evidence of anything the guy is just talking and putting out whatever narrative he wants. Maybe so, but like I previously stated, it wouldn’t even be an issue if there was verification...Don’t we want to eliminate the possibility of people being able to claim what he is claiming? Right now, in America, that guy can make those claims and nobody can prove otherwise- it’s such an easy fix... Edited December 17, 2020 by JaCrispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: I’m just saying that every law abiding citizen should want verification to vote, just so they have confidence they aren’t being disenfranchised- just like a bank teller verifying the account holder before a withdraw is made...this is the only way to have confidence in the system... Maybe so, but like I previously stated, it wouldn’t even be an issue if there was verification...Don’t we want to eliminate the possibility of people being able to claim what he is claiming? It's not like you can just write "I vote for ______" and mail it in or just walk in and vote the systems in place work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 2 hours ago, JaCrispy said: Even people, that had their preferred politician win, have to know we will never have public trust in our elections if we don’t try to verify voters...We also cannot allow non citizens to vote...This simply cannot happen...Democrats, Republicans and a Independents have to realize this or we are going to have MAJOR issues moving forward... The only evidence this jack ass submitted in Court to "Prove" that 42,000 people voted twice was an affidavit from two people calming that when they showed up to vote there were told that had already turned in a ballot. I hope all of the people who believe there was massive voter fraud never vote again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 1 hour ago, JaCrispy said: I’m just saying that every law abiding citizen should want verification to vote, just so they have confidence they aren’t being disenfranchised- just like a bank teller verifying the account holder before a withdraw is made...this is the only way to have confidence in the system... Maybe so, but like I previously stated, it wouldn’t even be an issue if there was verification...Don’t we want to eliminate the possibility of people being able to claim what he is claiming? Right now, in America, that guy can make those claims and nobody can prove otherwise- it’s such an easy fix... They do verify. You refuse to understand that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted December 18, 2020 Author Share Posted December 18, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Motorin' said: The only evidence this jack ass submitted in Court to "Prove" that 42,000 people voted twice was an affidavit from two people calming that when they showed up to vote there were told that had already turned in a ballot. I hope all of the people who believe there was massive voter fraud never vote again. But you just pointed out why voter verification is important... For the sake of argument, forget about Biden vs Trump for a moment...How would you, personally, feel if you went to vote, and were turned away because someone signed your name, and voted for you? It may not have been widespread, but the fact that we don’t have safeguards to protect against that kind of potential fraud happening (In the nation that is supposed to set the example for fair and honest elections) should be crazy to everyone that doesn’t want their vote disenfranchised imo... 49 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: They do verify. You refuse to understand that. Photo ID is not always required, and signatures to not have to match...addresses are not verified and any birth date can be written... Edited December 18, 2020 by JaCrispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 (edited) On 12/17/2020 at 7:12 PM, Motorin' said: The only evidence this jack ass submitted in Court to "Prove" that 42,000 people voted twice was an affidavit from two people calming that when they showed up to vote there were told that had already turned in a ballot. I hope all of the people who believe there was massive voter fraud never vote again. Here you go ***** stain... https://hereistheevidence.com/ Edited December 19, 2020 by Big Gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 (edited) If those in our gov't would use just a little tiny bit of common sense they could have avoided the entire voting discrepancy thing (more so) by just not giving millions of $ to use a voting machine built by a company (Dominion) that was known to be able to be manipulated as they were in other country's elections . WHERE'S THE PROOF ??? TB That's just foolish but when you look at some in the US gov't and their actions it just goes to prove that "stupid is as stupid does" !! So no matter what happens with this election find out who chose to use those machines and gave the okay for the money to be used to buy all of them and we can know who was the DC bring behind it ... Besides what machines were used in the last election why couldn't they just use those ?? Why just blow a bunch more money on all these new machines if the old ones work ?? Oh that's right because Trump won with those so there's the possibility that Russia has the remote to them, never mind ... Edited December 22, 2020 by T master 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 4 hours ago, Big Gun said: Here you go ***** stain... https://hereistheevidence.com/ You might as well have posted that with crayon. Just because it's written in big bold letters or crayola doesn't make it evidence. Don't appreciate you calling a fellow poster ***** stain. Attack the post, not the poster. Attack the idea, not the person. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 5 hours ago, Big Gun said: Here you go ***** stain... https://hereistheevidence.com/ Hahahaha you are so ***** stupid, feeble minded brainwashed idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Motorin' said: You might as well have posted that with crayon. Just because it's written in big bold letters or crayola doesn't make it evidence. Don't appreciate you calling a fellow poster ***** stain. Attack the post, not the poster. Attack the idea, not the person. Too bad, go cry to someone who cares! Had enough of you POS hypocrite liberal bullies! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 45 minutes ago, TBBills said: Hahahaha you are so ***** stupid, feeble minded brainwashed idiot. Oh look another ***** stain heard from! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, Big Gun said: Oh look another ***** stain heard from! You're just an embarrassment, nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER DOT COM Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 38 minutes ago, Big Gun said: Oh look another ***** stain heard from! What does your username make up for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 43 minutes ago, Big Gun said: Too bad, go cry to someone who cares! Had enough of you POS hypocrite liberal bullies! Another IDIOT for the Ignore Feature. Ba bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backintheday544 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 8 hours ago, Big Gun said: Here you go ***** stain... https://hereistheevidence.com/ this reminds me of when Brady was caught cheating so Pats fans made this webpage: https://yourteamcheats.com/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brueggs Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 On 12/7/2020 at 12:49 PM, SoTier said: I don't believe you because you have consistently started threads -- I think this is your third try but I might have missed one or more -- that raises the issue of "election fraud", including presenting supposed "evidence" that's little more than supposition and conjecture. You are simply trying to keep claims of election fraud on the front page of PPP, which suggests that you do, in fact, believe there was widespread election fraud. There's no evidence of any organized or widespread election fraud anywhere in the country as evidenced by nearly every single case being thrown out of court for lack of evidence, but that obviously isn't good enough for you. You'd rather believe some video purporting to show "something shady". The only "fraud" in Trump's "election fraud" campaign is Trump's siphoning off of nearly $200 million that his supporters contributed to help his legal fight into his own pockets. Really? You are absolutely convinced the OP has an ulterior motive, the second hand, un-named Ukrainian whistle blower should be believed, and yet you discard any credibility to the 1000 American citizens who have signed and sworn affidavits? More proof that the Socialist mentality rots the brain... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) After legal threat, Fox airs news package debunking election fraud claims made by its own hosts https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/19/business/fox-smartmatic-news-package/index.html Trump campaign told to preserve all documents related to Sidney Powell and Dominion Voting Systems President Donald Trump's campaign legal team sent a memo to dozens of staffers Saturday instructing them to preserve all documents related to Dominion Voting Systems and Sidney Powell in anticipation of potential litigation by the company against the pro-Trump attorney. The memo, viewed by CNN, references a letter Dominion sent to Powell this week demanding she publicly retract her accusations and instructs campaign staff not to alter, destroy or discard records that could be relevant. https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/19/politics/trump-campaign-sidney-powell-dominion-voting-systems/index.html Edited December 20, 2020 by ALF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backintheday544 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 We have proof of voter fraud with a dead person voting!!!!!! https://www.businessinsider.com/voter-election-fraud-pennsylvania-charge-dead-mom-vote-trump-2020-12 Dead person voted for Trump tho so not sure if that counts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 https://www.axios.com/newsmax-correction-fox-news-dominion-smartmatic-0886023b-a9fc-42c5-b68f-d8492ad04e5e.html Right-wing shows air clarifications about "rigged" voting machines after legal threats. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted December 22, 2020 Author Share Posted December 22, 2020 11 hours ago, Backintheday544 said: We have proof of voter fraud with a dead person voting!!!!!! https://www.businessinsider.com/voter-election-fraud-pennsylvania-charge-dead-mom-vote-trump-2020-12 Dead person voted for Trump tho so not sure if that counts! All fraud counts! This is why Democrats AND Republicans should demand transparency...I’ve been saying this forever, now... That fraudulent Trump vote negates a legal Biden vote, and vice versa...this is why ALL law abiding citizens, that do NOT want their vote disenfranchised, should be for voter ID & signature verification...furthermore, if you are unable to make it to the polls to vote, you should have to APPLY for a mail-in ballot (providing ID and address) so that ballots aren’t mailed to dead people or the wrong addresses... You are happy when that bank teller ID’s a random person trying to withdraw funds from your account, aren’t you? This is not rocket science, people- just common sense...and imo, anyone against such measures does not truly care if their vote, or any other person’s legal vote, is disenfranchised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER DOT COM Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: You are happy when that bank teller ID’s a random person trying to withdraw funds from your account, aren’t you? Has this ever happened since the invention of ATMs? If a random person is trying to withdraw funds from another's account illegally, they're going to use an ATM, which doesn't require ID, instead of withdrawing from a teller. 17 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: All fraud counts! This is why Democrats AND Republicans should demand transparency... It will never be 100% perfect with the amount of voters in this country. I'm content with 99.9%. Edited December 22, 2020 by wAcKy ZeBrA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 (edited) 32 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: All fraud counts! This is why Democrats AND Republicans should demand transparency...I’ve been saying this forever, now... That fraudulent Trump vote negates a legal Biden vote, and vice versa...this is why ALL law abiding citizens, that do NOT want their vote disenfranchised, should be for voter ID & signature verification...furthermore, if you are unable to make it to the polls to vote, you should have to APPLY for a mail-in ballot (providing ID and address) so that ballots aren’t mailed to dead people or the wrong addresses... You are happy when that bank teller ID’s a random person trying to withdraw funds from your account, aren’t you? This is not rocket science, people- just common sense...and imo, anyone against such measures does not truly care if their vote, or any other person’s legal vote, is disenfranchised. Those mistakes get corrected though just like this one. You don't understand this happens every vote, and it gets corrected EVERY vote. You have just never bothered to look at it till Trump lied and tried to commit voter fraud. Every year they correct bad votes after the election b.c those few votes don't change the actual outcome. You only notice it more b.c the most corrupt man known in the history of this country is in the spotlight as President. Edited December 22, 2020 by TBBills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted December 22, 2020 Author Share Posted December 22, 2020 1 hour ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said: Has this ever happened since the invention of ATMs? If a random person is trying to withdraw funds from another's account illegally, they're going to use an ATM, which doesn't require ID, instead of withdrawing from a teller. It will never be 100% perfect with the amount of voters in this country. I'm content with 99.9%. Your PIN is your ID verification when ATM is used...otherwise, bank tellers request photo ID, and ask you to lower your mask with for in-bank transactions...Imo, voting should have the same standards... 1 hour ago, TBBills said: Those mistakes get corrected though just like this one. You don't understand this happens every vote, and it gets corrected EVERY vote. You have just never bothered to look at it till Trump lied and tried to commit voter fraud. Every year they correct bad votes after the election b.c those few votes don't change the actual outcome. You only notice it more b.c the most corrupt man known in the history of this country is in the spotlight as President. Most mail in ballots, in years passed, had been absentee (with the exception of a few states), where you had to apply for them with ID and address verification...this year, that wasn’t the case...so, there is more of a reason to be concerned this time, especially if this is going to be the norm going forward... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Your PIN is your ID verification when ATM is used...otherwise, bank tellers request photo ID, and ask you to lower your mask with for in-bank transactions...Imo, voting should have the same standards... Most mail in ballots, in years passed, had been absentee (with the exception of a few states), where you had to apply for them with ID and address verification...this year, that wasn’t the case...so, there is more of a reason to be concerned this time, especially if this is going to be the norm going forward... Not really... And it showed there wasn't more of a reason. Just one guy wanted to force that fear mongering in your head and look at what has happened b.c of it. Dictators try to do things like this but thankfully in America we have many checks and balances to stop our president from committing voter fraud. Edited December 22, 2020 by TBBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted December 22, 2020 Author Share Posted December 22, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, TBBills said: Not really... And it showed there wasn't more of a reason. Just one guy wanted to force that fear mongering in your head and look at what has happened b.c of it. Look, it’s ok to think that Biden won, fair and square AND be for additional protections in our elections...they are not mutually exclusive... In fact, I do happen to think there was fraud (as there always is)...BUT, I don’t happen to think there was enough to overturn the election...Biden won, imo... That being said, I believe we definitely need to do more to protect our election system to make sure non citizens aren’t voting, people aren’t voting multiple times, and ballots aren’t being sent out to dead people or the wrong address... Can we, at least, agree on that? Edited December 22, 2020 by JaCrispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backintheday544 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 1 hour ago, JaCrispy said: All fraud counts! This is why Democrats AND Republicans should demand transparency...I’ve been saying this forever, now... That fraudulent Trump vote negates a legal Biden vote, and vice versa...this is why ALL law abiding citizens, that do NOT want their vote disenfranchised, should be for voter ID & signature verification...furthermore, if you are unable to make it to the polls to vote, you should have to APPLY for a mail-in ballot (providing ID and address) so that ballots aren’t mailed to dead people or the wrong addresses... You are happy when that bank teller ID’s a random person trying to withdraw funds from your account, aren’t you? This is not rocket science, people- just common sense...and imo, anyone against such measures does not truly care if their vote, or any other person’s legal vote, is disenfranchised. If you love democracy, you’d be against voter ID laws as they are being used as a restriction on legal US persons to vote. ACLU gives a good break down on it: Voter ID Laws Deprive Many Americans of the Right to Vote Millions of Americans Lack ID. 11% of U.S. citizens – or more than 21 million Americans – do not have government-issued photo identification.1 Obtaining ID Costs Money. Even if ID is offered for free, voters must incur numerous costs (such as paying for birth certificates) to apply for a government-issued ID. Underlying documents required to obtain ID cost money, a significant expense for lower-income Americans. The combined cost of document fees, travel expenses and waiting time are estimated to range from $75 to $175.2 The travel required is often a major burden on people with disabilities, the elderly, or those in rural areas without access to a car or public transportation. In Texas, some people in rural areas must travel approximately 170 miles to reach the nearest ID office.3 Voter ID Laws Reduce Voter Turnout. A 2014 GAO study found that strict photo ID laws reduce turnout by 2-3 percentage points,4 which can translate into tens of thousands of votes lost in a single state.5 Voter ID Laws Are Discriminatory Minority voters disproportionately lack ID. Nationally, up to 25% of African-American citizens of voting age lack government-issued photo ID, compared to only 8% of whites.6 States exclude forms of ID in a discriminatory manner. Texas allows concealed weapons permits for voting, but does not accept student ID cards. Until its voter ID law was struck down, North Carolina prohibited public assistance IDs and state employee ID cards, which are disproportionately held by Black voters. And until recently, Wisconsin permitted active duty military ID cards, but prohibited Veterans Affairs ID cards for voting. Voter ID laws are enforced in a discriminatory manner. A Caltech/MIT study found that minority voters are more frequently questioned about ID than are white voters.7 Voter ID laws reduce turnout among minority voters. Several studies, including a 2014 GAO study, have found that photo ID laws have a particularly depressive effect on turnout among racial minorities and other vulnerable groups, worsening the participation gap between voters of color and whites.8 Voter ID Requirements are a Solution in Search of a Problem In-person fraud is vanishingly rare. A recent study found that, since 2000, there were only 31 credible allegations of voter impersonation – the only type of fraud that photo IDs could prevent – during a period of time in which over 1 billion ballots were cast.9 Identified instances of “fraud” are honest mistakes. So-called cases of in-person impersonation voter “fraud” are almost always the product of an elections worker or a voter making an honest mistake, and that even these mistakes are extremely infrequent.10 Voter ID laws are a waste of taxpayer dollars. States incur sizeable costs when implementing voter ID laws, including the cost of educating the public, training poll workers, and providing IDs to voters. Texas spent nearly $2 million on voter education and outreach efforts following passage of its Voter ID law.11 Indiana spent over $10 million to produce free ID cards between 2007 and 2010.12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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