JaCrispy Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 If there was a transfer of the USB card, like the video creator suggests, how would that necessarily mean there was fraud? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Steve O Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: If there was a transfer of the USB card, like the video creator suggests, how would that necessarily mean there was fraud? USB could have contained a video of a closed practice of the Falcons next opponent that the guy with his back to the camera was going to take to Morris. Since we didn't see what was on it we don't know what was on it. But given the location of the incident and you just have to make some assumptions about the contents. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 Video shows election night poll workers in Georgia taking (what looks to be) USB card from the computer and, surreptitiously, passing it along to another worker... On the surface, it appears like they are trying not to be detected... I was just wondering why this might be a big deal- what are the potential hazards that might make this a fraudulent situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 25 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Video shows election night poll workers in Georgia taking (what looks to be) USB card from the computer and, surreptitiously, passing it along to another worker... On the surface, it appears like they are trying not to be detected... I was just wondering why this might be a big deal- what are the potential hazards that might make this a fraudulent situation? Do you think the elections are rigged in this country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 hour ago, JaCrispy said: If there was a transfer of the USB card, like the video creator suggests, how would that necessarily mean there was fraud? Based on that, now I believe that the election was rigged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Do you think the elections are rigged in this country? Ya know, Tiberius, that’s a great question...I’m really not sure...Id like to think there isn’t...but seeing things like this doesn’t help... And other countries have fraudulent elections, so I can’t put passed the realm of possibility...and with more and more technology being used, it would seem to make it easier to rig an election if people wanted to... It is said that every election has “some” fraud...the question then becomes, is it systemic? In school we learned about the fraud back in Chicago, during the 1960 elections between Nixon and Kennedy... But if there is fraud I don’t think it would be a Democrat or Republican thing...I think both parties are capable and complicit...I guess it just becomes a thing where “do the people decide for the parties”? Or “do the parties decide for the people”? Edited December 7, 2020 by JaCrispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 A spokesperson for the Gwinnett County Government explained to Reuters via email what the video actually shows: “This is a Dominion technician producing a data report on the server and saving the report to a Dominion USB thumb drive and then using a laptop to filter requested information. The Dominion servers are not equipped with Excel and counties are not authorized to install any hardware or software on these systems.” This is yet another desperate attempt by the Trump people to claim something out of nothing. The tech for the company was transferring a report from one computer to another, had absolutely nothing to do with votes. The people in Georgia responsible for elections have completely debunked this, yet the guy apparently is getting death threats. Why are so many people beholden to a con man? What has happened to the ability to think? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: A spokesperson for the Gwinnett County Government explained to Reuters via email what the video actually shows: “This is a Dominion technician producing a data report on the server and saving the report to a Dominion USB thumb drive and then using a laptop to filter requested information. The Dominion servers are not equipped with Excel and counties are not authorized to install any hardware or software on these systems.” This is yet another desperate attempt by the Trump people to claim something out of nothing. The tech for the company was transferring a report from one computer to another, had absolutely nothing to do with votes. The people in Georgia responsible for elections have completely debunked this, yet the guy apparently is getting death threats. Why are so many people beholden to a con man? What has happened to the ability to think? You may be right...but if it as you say, an innocent act, why the coy behavior, looking around to see if anyone is watching? Why not just hand it to the young man? Why pretend to stretch while she slips it into his pocket... Just playing devils advocate here, but you have to admit, the behavior does lend itself to question... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Ya know, Tiberius, that’s a great question...I’m really not sure...Id like to think there isn’t...but seeing things like this doesn’t help... And other countries have fraudulent elections, so I can’t put passed the realm of possibility...and with more and more technology being used, it would seem to make it easier to rig an election if people wanted to... It is said that every election has “some” fraud...the question then becomes, is it systemic? In school we learned about the fraud back in Chicago, during the 1960 elections between Nixon and Kennedy... But if there is fraud I don’t think it’s a Democrat or Republican thing...I think both parties are capable and complicit...I guess it just becomes a thing where “do the people decide for the parties”? Or “do the parties decide for the people”? I don't believe you because you have consistently started threads -- I think this is your third try but I might have missed one or more -- that raises the issue of "election fraud", including presenting supposed "evidence" that's little more than supposition and conjecture. You are simply trying to keep claims of election fraud on the front page of PPP, which suggests that you do, in fact, believe there was widespread election fraud. There's no evidence of any organized or widespread election fraud anywhere in the country as evidenced by nearly every single case being thrown out of court for lack of evidence, but that obviously isn't good enough for you. You'd rather believe some video purporting to show "something shady". The only "fraud" in Trump's "election fraud" campaign is Trump's siphoning off of nearly $200 million that his supporters contributed to help his legal fight into his own pockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) You are right- I probably should have combined, at least, a few of those threads...my bad...mods feel free... But the things I put on here are things I that I see and want to get other people’s opinions on... I want to hear other perspectives in case I’ve missed something... Potential election fraud and covid are the two biggest issues going on right now...so it only makes sense that people are talking about them in PPP... And if new videos or info comes out, I’ll try to keep it to one thread...👍 Edited December 7, 2020 by JaCrispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraps Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, JaCrispy said: Ya know, Tiberius, that’s a great question...I’m really not sure...Id like to think there isn’t...but seeing things like this doesn’t help... And other countries have fraudulent elections, so I can’t put passed the realm of possibility...and with more and more technology being used, it would seem to make it easier to rig an election if people wanted to... It is said that every election has “some” fraud...the question then becomes, is it systemic? Given our federalized system where states and counties choose how to conduct elections, it is extremely difficult to have systemic fraud. If there was fraud on the part of a Dominion voting system, why would a hand recount and another machine recount produce basically identical results to the original count? Here is an analysis that breaks it down better. Oh and let's not forget that Bill Barr said the only thing that could be large enough to change the outcome of the election was Dominion voting, that both the DOJ and DHS looked at it and said there is nothing there. And keep in mind that Chris Krebs (Republican and a Trump appointee), Gabriel Sterling, Brad Raffensperger and Brian Kemp, republicans all who ran and certified the election, all say there is nothing there. Why is is so hard to believe the simple explanation that Trump lost? Edited December 7, 2020 by Scraps 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 45 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: You may be right...but if it as you say, an innocent act, why the coy behavior, looking around to see if anyone is watching? Why not just hand it to the young man? Why pretend to stretch while she slips it into his pocket... Just playing devils advocate here, but you have to admit, the behavior does lend itself to question... No it doesn't lend itself to question. The people in charge of elections looked into it, and it was nothing. Let me repeat, nothing. The votes in Georgia have been counted three times now. My suggestion to you is to have faith in the electoral process, and quit looking down rabbit holes just because the man-child in the White House can't accept he lost? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Do you think the elections are rigged in this country? Are you admitting that the 2016 Election was not rigged? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 minute ago, RochesterRob said: Are you admitting that the 2016 Election was not rigged? The 2016 election was not rigged. The Democrats ran a significantly flawed candidate and she got beat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 21 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: No it doesn't lend itself to question. The people in charge of elections looked into it, and it was nothing. Let me repeat, nothing. The votes in Georgia have been counted three times now. My suggestion to you is to have faith in the electoral process, and quit looking down rabbit holes just because the man-child in the White House can't accept he lost? Sure it does. Poll watchers being boxed out. Votes found as if by magic. Pipe breaks that never occurred. People encouraged to leave a polling place during as the count was proceeding. Ballots under tables. Dominion reliability. Statistical anomalies. There’s plenty to be concerned with, so just sit tight as we see it through. Faith in our system is vital, and it has been shaken though incompetence or outright fraud. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 32 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: Are you admitting that the 2016 Election was not rigged? Rigged how? Dec. 7, 2020 at 4:54 a.m. EST Add to list Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson had just finished wrapping string lights around her home’s portico on Saturday evening and was about to watch “How the Grinch Stole Christmas” with her 4-year-old son when a crowd of protesters marched up carrying American flags and guns. About two dozen protesters chanted “Stop the Steal” and accused Benson, a Democrat and Michigan’s chief election officer, of ignoring widespread voter fraud — an echo of President Trump’s continued unfounded claims as he seeks to overturn the results of the election that President-elect Joe Biden won. “She’s decided to completely ignore all of the credible, credible, fraudulent evidence that has been continually pointed out,” demonstrator Genevieve Peters said of Benson, as she live-streamed the protest in Detroit on Facebook. “We’re out here in front of the secretary of state’s house and we want her to know we will continue to be here.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/12/07/michigan-sos-benson-armed-protest/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraps Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 21 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Sure it does. Poll watchers being boxed out. Votes found as if by magic. Pipe breaks that never occurred. People encouraged to leave a polling place during as the count was proceeding. Ballots under tables. Dominion reliability. Statistical anomalies. There’s plenty to be concerned with, so just sit tight as we see it through. Faith in our system is vital, and it has been shaken though incompetence or outright fraud. Exactly how is Dominion unreliable? It produces a paper ballot that can and has been audited. There have been 3 counts, one of which was a hand recount, and they are all consistent. Trump has lost 3 times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 22 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Sure it does. Poll watchers being boxed out. Votes found as if by magic. Pipe breaks that never occurred. People encouraged to leave a polling place during as the count was proceeding. Ballots under tables. Dominion reliability. Statistical anomalies. There’s plenty to be concerned with, so just sit tight as we see it through. Faith in our system is vital, and it has been shaken though incompetence or outright fraud. None of this happened according to the people in charge. Enough is enough of these conspiracy theories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 3 hours ago, JaCrispy said: If there was a transfer of the USB card, like the video creator suggests, how would that necessarily mean there was fraud? All of this crap is just so ridiculous and pointless even if and I stress if the Dominion voting machines had it out for Trump it wouldn't matter. They did a hand paper ballot audit and he still lost. I mean the counts line up which clearly indicates that the computers didn't screw him over. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Scraps said: Exactly how is Dominion unreliable? It produces a paper ballot that can and has been audited. There have been 3 counts, one of which was a hand recount, and they are all consistent. Trump has lost 3 times. No they have not been consistent. Look it up if you're really interested in finding out. It's not hard to find. Way too many sketchy ***** happened after the swing states supposedly stopped counting. The left fell for the Russian collusion with no evidence at all, but ignore the fraud that's been going on since the election. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 32 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: There’s plenty to be concerned with, so just sit tight as we see it through. Yeah we've been doing that this is the result so far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 28 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Yeah we've been doing that this is the result so far. SCOTUS is the only court that counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 33 minutes ago, Warcodered said: All of this crap is just so ridiculous and pointless even if and I stress if the Dominion voting machines had it out for Trump it wouldn't matter. They did a hand paper ballot audit and he still lost. I mean the counts line up which clearly indicates that the computers didn't screw him over. This seems like a legit argument...Do you know if the Trump campaign has attempted to counter this point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraps Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Bidens_basement said: No they have not been consistent. Look it up if you're really interested in finding out. It's not hard to find. Way too many sketchy ***** happened after the swing states supposedly stopped counting. The left fell for the Russian collusion with no evidence at all, but ignore the fraud that's been going on since the election. If the Georgia recounts are inconsistent, you provide the proof. Trump lost Georgia 3 times. Edited December 7, 2020 by Scraps 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraps Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: This seems like a legit argument...Do you know if the Trump campaign has attempted to counter this point? No, They know that many of his followers live in the hermetically sealed Fox/OAN/Newsmax/Trump circular reinforcement loop and don't believe anything outside of that circle. They just keep deceiving so they can keep grifting. Do you know that you have to give $5001 to the recount fund he has been touting before $1 goes to the actual recount? The rest goes to a Super Pac for him, to retire his campaign's debt and to the RNC. This is nothing but a con by the conman in chief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: This seems like a legit argument...Do you know if the Trump campaign has attempted to counter this point? They called it a joke and moved the Goalposts. Said that what they really needed to verify was the signature matching from the mail in votes which they did when they got them and are literally incapable of matching back up with their votes again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 22 minutes ago, Bidens_basement said: SCOTUS is the only court that counts. I doubt it even gets there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 4 hours ago, JaCrispy said: If there was a transfer of the USB card, like the video creator suggests, how would that necessarily mean there was fraud? Get off youtube, dude. And if you are going to keep posting every nonsensical, half-brained conspiracy video that pops up there, you're probably better suited for the other board. No fraud. Georgia just RE-certified AGAIN today after ANOTHER hand recount. Trump has now lost GA 3 times. And I love being a part of it. On to the run-offs. Early voting starts Monday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Get off youtube, dude. And if you are going to keep posting every nonsensical, half-brained conspiracy video that pops up there, you're probably better suited for the other board. No fraud. Georgia just RE-certified AGAIN today after ANOTHER hand recount. Trump has now lost GA 3 times. And I love being a part of it. On to the run-offs. Early voting starts Monday. So if Biden has won Georgia 3 times now that means he gets 48 EC votes now right.😃 Edited December 7, 2020 by Warcodered 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Warcodered said: I doubt it even gets there. It will. It's too important to our nation not too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Just now, Bidens_basement said: It will. It's too important to our nation not too. It wont. The SCOTUS doesnt make a habit of hearing "cases" that are nothing more than flailing from a whiny narcissist with zero real evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 20 minutes ago, Scraps said: If the Georgia recounts are inconsistent, you provide the proof. Trump lost Georgia 3 times. Why are you against making sure there was no fraud committed? You were gung ho over the fake Russian collusion, but now, all of a sudden the election was legit? There are thousands of poll workers who were sworn under oath, videos of counting ballots after they supposedly stopped counting. This whole election has been crooked as hell. But hey, screw the country as long as your side wins. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 hour ago, oldmanfan said: None of this happened according to the people in charge. Enough is enough of these conspiracy theories. You never trust the people in charge in any organization* when they say “No, we didn’t $&@$ up.”. We don’t allow it for Bernie Madhoff, we don’t allow it in criminal trials, and the right to adjudicate it in court is granted in the constitution even if it makes some people squishy in the shorts. *I’m speaking generally of course. We all know that creepy dudes jamming their package while going over boob/over sweater is perfectly acceptable so long as the creeper follows certain political ideaology and “owns” it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraps Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Bidens_basement said: It will. It's too important to our nation not too. Actually, it would be a farce for anything other than the 1 suit about Pennsylvania receiving and counting votes after election day made it to the Supreme Court. Team Trump hasn't provided evidence that would overturn any state, let alone multiple states. And as for the 1 case in Pennsylvania, that wouldn't change the results either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: It wont. The SCOTUS doesnt make a habit of hearing "cases" that are nothing more than flailing from a whiny narcissist with zero real evidence. We'll see soon enough. Just now, Scraps said: Actually, it would be a farce for anything other than the 1 suit about Pennsylvania receiving and counting votes after election day made it to the Supreme Court. Team Trump hasn't provided evidence that would overturn any state, let alone multiple states. And as for the 1 case in Pennsylvania, that wouldn't change the results either. You have no clue what evidence they have or not have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Warcodered said: Yeah we've been doing that this is the result so far. There are not 47 Trump cases, Ricky ######o. Why you let people lie to you is beyond me. All I ask for is patience as we see it through. Where is the downside? Shocking— the filter edited out a legal surname. Re Tar Do Edited December 7, 2020 by leh-nerd skin-erd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraps Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Bidens_basement said: Why are you against making sure there was no fraud committed? You were gung ho over the fake Russian collusion, but now, all of a sudden the election was legit? There are thousands of poll workers who were sworn under oath, videos of counting ballots after they supposedly stopped counting. This whole election has been crooked as hell. But hey, screw the country as long as your side wins. Its funny how whatever Team Trump is accusing you of is exactly what they are trying to do themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Just now, Scraps said: Its funny how whatever Team Trump is accusing you of is exactly what they are trying to do themselves. That's called projecting, something the left has been doing the past four years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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