SectionC3 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) There are some people here who blame China for the release of the COVID-19 virus and its spread in this country. That allegation has taken on new import with the President’s apparent infection with the virus. Of course the President could have taken certain precautionary measures, such as not flirting with junk science COVID-19 cures (hyrdoxychloroquine, medicinal Lysol) and, maybe, perhaps, wearing a mask when in a group setting. But that ship has sailed, and we now have many new questions before us. Given the view of some here that China, and only China, is responsible for the spread of this virus in our country, the question becomes whether China has elevated this situation to a new and dangerous level inasmuch as it has “attacked” our President. So, is it time to declare war on China? Discuss. Edited October 2, 2020 by SectionC3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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meazza Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: There are some people here who blame China for the release of the COVID-19 virus and its spread in this country. That allegation has taken on new import with the President’s apparent infection with the virus. Of course the President could have taken certain precautionary measures, such as not flirting with junk science COVID-19 cures (hyrdoxychloroquine, medicinal Lysol) and, maybe, perhaps, wearing a mask when in a group setting. But that ship has sailed, and we now have many new questions before us. Given the view of some here that China, and only China, is responsible for the spread of this virus in our country, the question becomes whether China has elevated this situation to a new and dangerous level inasmuch as it has “attacked” our President. So, is it time to declare war on China? Discuss. Can all the people who lost loves ones to the Spanish Flu declare war on America? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Chinese state media mocks Trump's positive virus test: 'Paid the price for his gamble to play down' pandemic https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/519296-chinese-state-media-mocks-trumps-positive-coronavirus-test-paid-the 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted October 2, 2020 Author Share Posted October 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, meazza said: Can all the people who lost loves ones to the Spanish Flu declare war on America? I’m asking you. I think it’s pretty stupid to suggest that China is responsible for the federal incompetence in failing to meaningfully act to curb the spread of the virus. But others ascribe to that stupid idea. So it’s fair to ask whether they support the equally stupid idea of declaring war on China now that trump has been, in their eyes, “attacked.” 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: Chinese state media mocks Trump's positive virus test: 'Paid the price for his gamble to play down' pandemic https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/519296-chinese-state-media-mocks-trumps-positive-coronavirus-test-paid-the I saw that earlier. Hilarious and true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoon Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Ah, as a war hawk...NO. We need to take action against China through trade and it needs to be a multinational coalition that destroys Chinas economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dragoon said: Ah, as a war hawk...NO. We need to take action against China through trade and it needs to be a multinational coalition that destroys Chinas economy. Destroys their economy? Get real 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 If Obama and Hillary were running things I would be very worried about going to war. They seemed to enjoy it. On a couple levels. It helps enrich the bankers and by extension them. I also think they get off on death and destruction. Trump, on the other hand, has made every effort to stay out of conflicts. Russian, North Korea etc. Orange man not bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted October 2, 2020 Author Share Posted October 2, 2020 14 minutes ago, Dragoon said: Ah, as a war hawk...NO. We need to take action against China through trade and it needs to be a multinational coalition that destroys Chinas economy. Why would you say no as a war hawk? Doesn’t that mean that you like war? Or are you saying that, even as a war hawk, you think this is a stupid idea (because nobody attacked Trump and he acquired the virus through his own stupidity)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoon Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Destroys their economy? Get real ...k, so their economy thrives on exports. Exports are goods that are manufactured and then sold to another country... Now that that’s covered let’s move on. If a multinational coalition, Japan, S. Korea, Australia, Canada, the UK, and the EU form a bloc that imposed sanctions and cut Chinese exports well hurt chinas economy gravely. Logistics are an issue. Trump knows it. ‘Member Obama’s ‘those jobs aren’t coming back’ nonsense? Trump recognizes the threat that is China and has been working diligently to bring manufacturing jobs back to America so that if we go to war with China we actually have the factories making the goods necessary to fight that war. The best way to fight China is to kick them in the wallet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdutton Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 No Now stop creating stupid threads. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Gee took much shorter than I thought for the killing brigade to start advocating war with China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted October 2, 2020 Author Share Posted October 2, 2020 Just now, bdutton said: No Now stop creating stupid threads. Our president was attacked, right? Apparently you don’t love the president if you don’t support punishing China. Sad. Your Trumper pals are going to be pretty upset with you. Just now, GG said: Gee took much shorter than I thought for the killing brigade to start advocating war with China. Much less time, intellectual standard bearer. Much less time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoon Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Why would you say no as a war hawk? Doesn’t that mean that you like war? Or are you saying that, even as a war hawk, you think this is a stupid idea (because nobody attacked Trump and he acquired the virus through his own stupidity)? I think we’re not logistically ready for a war w/ China. They make too much of our stuff. Do I like war? No. I don’t want it. But I believe that sometimes overwhelming violence can end an issue before it truly gets bad. I mean if France had just attacked Germany in ‘39 when the German army was in Poland.... So, I advocate for violence when I think it’ll save lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 This virus' greatest contribution to the world is pointing out that far too many of our most important products (think antibiotics and such) are not made in America. Going to war with any first world power is a fool's errand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 I blame a lot or our problems on lawyers. Should we go to war with lawyers? Dumb question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Chinese state media mocks Trump's positive virus test: 'Paid the price for his gamble to play down' pandemic https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/519296-chinese-state-media-mocks-trumps-positive-coronavirus-test-paid-the No, we all paid the price for China's lying. Crush them economically and let them eat themselves in 10 years when the 1-child policy comes home to roost. Edited October 2, 2020 by Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 hour ago, SectionC3 said: There are some people here who blame China for the release of the COVID-19 virus and its spread in this country. That allegation has taken on new import with the President’s apparent infection with the virus. Of course the President could have taken certain precautionary measures, such as not flirting with junk science COVID-19 cures (hyrdoxychloroquine, medicinal Lysol) and, maybe, perhaps, wearing a mask when in a group setting. But that ship has sailed, and we now have many new questions before us. Given the view of some here that China, and only China, is responsible for the spread of this virus in our country, the question becomes whether China has elevated this situation to a new and dangerous level inasmuch as it has “attacked” our President. So, is it time to declare war on China? Discuss. This is scientific evidence that TDS is much more dangerous than wuhan flu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 36 minutes ago, Alaska Darin said: This virus' greatest contribution to the world is pointing out that far too many of our most important products (think antibiotics and such) are not made in America. Going to war with any first world power is a fool's errand. ..agree.....bringing that home will be far more effective than a war...............and more beneficial to the US.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Don't need to go to war with them. Just need to wait them out. They've got a billion more citizens than us. These are people that need to be fed and employed with not enough of their own resources to accomplish it. They're not making any friends who matter. They're going to get squeezed by their own bad decisions soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Chinese state media mocks Trump's positive virus test: 'Paid the price for his gamble to play down' pandemic https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/519296-chinese-state-media-mocks-trumps-positive-coronavirus-test-paid-the How many threads do you, C3, Wacky, and down the line need to pat each other on the butt for no real reason other than to .................................................... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 minute ago, RochesterRob said: How many threads do you, C3, Wacky, and down the line need to pat each other on the butt for no real reason other than to .................................................... Awww...Feeling lonely and unwanted? I’ll like your post so you feel something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{::'KayCeeS::} Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 There is no pandemic. That is the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Dragoon said: ...k, so their economy thrives on exports. Exports are goods that are manufactured and then sold to another country... Now that that’s covered let’s move on. If a multinational coalition, Japan, S. Korea, Australia, Canada, the UK, and the EU form a bloc that imposed sanctions and cut Chinese exports well hurt chinas economy gravely. Logistics are an issue. Trump knows it. ‘Member Obama’s ‘those jobs aren’t coming back’ nonsense? Trump recognizes the threat that is China and has been working diligently to bring manufacturing jobs back to America so that if we go to war with China we actually have the factories making the goods necessary to fight that war. The best way to fight China is to kick them in the wallet. Economics is way more complicated than that. China is integrated in the economy, just ask the mid western farmers now on Trump welfare about that after Trump got there markets closed. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoon Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Economics is way more complicated than that. China is integrated in the economy, just ask the mid western farmers now on Trump welfare about that after Trump got there markets closed. See paragraph 2. It’s bad. This is why we NEED manufacturing back in the states. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Dragoon said: See paragraph 2. It’s bad. This is why we NEED manufacturing back in the states. Ok, how will you convince Americans to pay much higher prices for goods? It will be good to have the strong labor unions back here. Very progressive. How will you make sure supply disruptions dont tank the economy? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoon Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Ok, how will you convince Americans to pay much higher prices for goods? It will be good to have the strong labor unions back here. Very progressive. How will you make sure supply disruptions dont tank the economy? 1. I buy American when possible although it costs more. Additionally, manufacturing in Mexico would keep prices low, importation easier, and it would kick China in the wallet. 2. I’ve no issue with unions outside of government employees. But there needs to be right to work on a federal level IMO. After all, it’s the American way. 3. Rapidly but responsibly. If we don’t have a way to get a certain widget but through China, don’t block the importation of that widget until the necessary manufacturing is running here/Mexico/Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Just now, Dragoon said: 1. I buy American when possible although it costs more. Additionally, manufacturing in Mexico would keep prices low, importation easier, and it would kick China in the wallet. 2. I’ve no issue with unions outside of government employees. But there needs to be right to work on a federal level IMO. After all, it’s the American way. 3. Rapidly but responsibly. If we don’t have a way to get a certain widget but through China, don’t block the importation of that widget until the necessary manufacturing is running here/Mexico/Canada. I did ask if you would pay more, how will you sell the higher prices for EVERYTHING to the American public? That will make Americans poorer if inflation begins shrinking their income. And sorry, if Mexico could just take over and it was that easy, it would have already happened, transportation costs being what they are and all. Whats your plan? Oh, and you want to push an anti Union program, too? Good luck with that, strikes suck too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoon Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, Tiberius said: I did ask if you would pay more, how will you sell the higher prices for EVERYTHING to the American public? That will make Americans poorer if inflation begins shrinking their income. And sorry, if Mexico could just take over and it was that easy, it would have already happened, transportation costs being what they are and all. Whats your plan? Oh, and you want to push an anti Union program, too? Good luck with that, strikes suck too. Well, I already answered. Also, I mentioned a multinational coalition. We have other Asian countries to exploit for cheap labor. Point is it needs to be done. The main goal is to destroy Chinese reliance more so than American manufacturing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Dragoon said: Well, I already answered. Also, I mentioned a multinational coalition. We have other Asian countries to exploit for cheap labor. Point is it needs to be done. The main goal is to destroy Chinese reliance more so than American manufacturing. Yes, and Trump is so good at working with our allies! Gees, have you even been paying attention? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoon Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 41 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Yes, and Trump is so good at working with our allies! Gees, have you even been paying attention? Yes. I have. Ya know what I’ve learned....don’t doubt Don. Bro, the Israel-UAE deal knocked me on my butt. I was amazed. Trump.....is making the world great again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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