nedboy7 Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 15 hours ago, aristocrat said: you and redtail should get together with your make believe stories Are you one of these people who think no lib owns firearms? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: Are you one of these people who think no lib owns firearms? no quite the opposite. It’s always funny libs hear these absurd conversations and those that mean right never hear them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 37 minutes ago, aristocrat said: no quite the opposite. It’s always funny libs hear these absurd conversations and those that mean right never hear them You all are being disingenuous. This is a common theme in deeply disturbed Trumpland. Here some examples... Soon after the F.B.I. searched Donald J. Trump’s home in Florida for classified documents, online researchers zeroed in on a worrying trend. Posts on Twitter that mentioned “civil war” had soared nearly 3,000 percent in just a few hours as Mr. Trump’s supporters blasted the action as a provocation. Similar spikes followed, including on Facebook, Reddit, Telegram, Parler, Gab and Truth Social, Mr. Trump’s social media platform. Mentions of the phrase more than doubled on radio programs and podcasts, as measured by Critical Mention, a media-tracking firm. In northwestern Wisconsin, the chairman of the St. Croix County Republican Party was forced to resign Friday after refusing for a week after the siege to remove an online post urging followers to “prepare for war.” The incoming chairwoman of the Michigan GOP and her husband, a state lawmaker, have joined a conservative social media site created after the Capitol riot where the possibility of civil war is a topic. Phil Reynolds, a member of the GOP central committee in California’s Santa Clara County, appeared to urge on insurrectionists on social media during the Jan. 6 attack, declaring on Facebook: “The war has begun. Citizens take arms! Drumroll please….. Civil War or No Civil War?” “Did you know that a governor can declare war?” Mr. Flynn said at the fund-raiser on Sept. 18, for Mark Finchem, a Republican running for secretary of state in Arizona. “And we’re going to probably, we are probably going to see that.” It is possible however that all these sources are fakenews. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: You all are being disingenuous. This is a common theme in deeply disturbed Trumpland. Here some examples... Soon after the F.B.I. searched Donald J. Trump’s home in Florida for classified documents, online researchers zeroed in on a worrying trend. Posts on Twitter that mentioned “civil war” had soared nearly 3,000 percent in just a few hours as Mr. Trump’s supporters blasted the action as a provocation. Similar spikes followed, including on Facebook, Reddit, Telegram, Parler, Gab and Truth Social, Mr. Trump’s social media platform. Mentions of the phrase more than doubled on radio programs and podcasts, as measured by Critical Mention, a media-tracking firm. In northwestern Wisconsin, the chairman of the St. Croix County Republican Party was forced to resign Friday after refusing for a week after the siege to remove an online post urging followers to “prepare for war.” The incoming chairwoman of the Michigan GOP and her husband, a state lawmaker, have joined a conservative social media site created after the Capitol riot where the possibility of civil war is a topic. Phil Reynolds, a member of the GOP central committee in California’s Santa Clara County, appeared to urge on insurrectionists on social media during the Jan. 6 attack, declaring on Facebook: “The war has begun. Citizens take arms! Drumroll please….. Civil War or No Civil War?” “Did you know that a governor can declare war?” Mr. Flynn said at the fund-raiser on Sept. 18, for Mark Finchem, a Republican running for secretary of state in Arizona. “And we’re going to probably, we are probably going to see that.” It is possible however that all these sources are fakenews. The civil war you are concerning yourself with will look very much like the recent NAZI DAY OF HATE and the republican push to ban contraceptives (please don’t suggest that abortifacients are contraceptives again). I’m not suggesting you not stay concerned about it. The opposite. Be VERY concerned. Even though it will seem like another complete non-story, don’t be fooled. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: You all are being disingenuous. This is a common theme in deeply disturbed Trumpland. Here some examples... Soon after the F.B.I. searched Donald J. Trump’s home in Florida for classified documents, online researchers zeroed in on a worrying trend. Posts on Twitter that mentioned “civil war” had soared nearly 3,000 percent in just a few hours as Mr. Trump’s supporters blasted the action as a provocation. Similar spikes followed, including on Facebook, Reddit, Telegram, Parler, Gab and Truth Social, Mr. Trump’s social media platform. Mentions of the phrase more than doubled on radio programs and podcasts, as measured by Critical Mention, a media-tracking firm. In northwestern Wisconsin, the chairman of the St. Croix County Republican Party was forced to resign Friday after refusing for a week after the siege to remove an online post urging followers to “prepare for war.” The incoming chairwoman of the Michigan GOP and her husband, a state lawmaker, have joined a conservative social media site created after the Capitol riot where the possibility of civil war is a topic. Phil Reynolds, a member of the GOP central committee in California’s Santa Clara County, appeared to urge on insurrectionists on social media during the Jan. 6 attack, declaring on Facebook: “The war has begun. Citizens take arms! Drumroll please….. Civil War or No Civil War?” “Did you know that a governor can declare war?” Mr. Flynn said at the fund-raiser on Sept. 18, for Mark Finchem, a Republican running for secretary of state in Arizona. “And we’re going to probably, we are probably going to see that.” It is possible however that all these sources are fakenews. For some reason, stealth seems important to all these folks...I guess they desire the element of surprise. Not happening. And yes, there are true patriots who won't let it occur. Edited March 19, 2023 by redtail hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 1 hour ago, BillStime said: Mr. Trump has denied all wrongdoing, as well as having had an affair with Ms. Daniels, and has blasted the investigation as politically motivated. He has also called Mr. Bragg, a Democrat and the first Black person to serve as the district attorney, a “racist.” 😂😂😂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 (edited) https://www.mediaite.com/trump/protest-protest-protest-trump-literally-triples-down-on-call-for-action-by-supporters-over-potential-indictment-arrest/ “THEY’RE KILLING OUR NATION AS WE SIT BACK & WATCH. WE MUST SAVE AMERICA!PROTEST, PROTEST, PROTEST!!!” he wrote in all caps. Edited March 19, 2023 by redtail hawk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 @nedboy7 with a good run of late trying to catch up to @redtail hawk for the non @BillStime / @Tiberius lunacy lead. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 49 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: You all are being disingenuous. This is a common theme in deeply disturbed Trumpland. Here some examples... Soon after the F.B.I. searched Donald J. Trump’s home in Florida for classified documents, online researchers zeroed in on a worrying trend. Posts on Twitter that mentioned “civil war” had soared nearly 3,000 percent in just a few hours as Mr. Trump’s supporters blasted the action as a provocation. Similar spikes followed, including on Facebook, Reddit, Telegram, Parler, Gab and Truth Social, Mr. Trump’s social media platform. Mentions of the phrase more than doubled on radio programs and podcasts, as measured by Critical Mention, a media-tracking firm. In northwestern Wisconsin, the chairman of the St. Croix County Republican Party was forced to resign Friday after refusing for a week after the siege to remove an online post urging followers to “prepare for war.” The incoming chairwoman of the Michigan GOP and her husband, a state lawmaker, have joined a conservative social media site created after the Capitol riot where the possibility of civil war is a topic. Phil Reynolds, a member of the GOP central committee in California’s Santa Clara County, appeared to urge on insurrectionists on social media during the Jan. 6 attack, declaring on Facebook: “The war has begun. Citizens take arms! Drumroll please….. Civil War or No Civil War?” “Did you know that a governor can declare war?” Mr. Flynn said at the fund-raiser on Sept. 18, for Mark Finchem, a Republican running for secretary of state in Arizona. “And we’re going to probably, we are probably going to see that.” It is possible however that all these sources are fakenews. Oh I’m sure keyboard warriors talk this ***** in their parents basements but it means nothing. I’m saying you’re full of ***** claiming you heard guys talking in the open. @BillStime talks about civil war as well it’s not really a one sided argument. Look at @redtail hawkpost on how he claims he saw nazis recruiting posters at a hiking trailhead but has no pictures, no police reports or social media posts on it. Zero proof and 100 percent made up on his end to somehow prove nazis are everywhere. It’s bull 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 18 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: lunacy lead. Cult seems restless ... so funny to watch these idiots lash out and blame everyone but themselves for supporting the most corrupt POTUS in history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 20 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: @nedboy7 with a good run of late trying to catch up to @redtail hawk for the non @BillStime / @Tiberius lunacy lead. It's well known that those like you who are abnormal have a difficult time recognizing normal. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: It's well known that those like you who are abnormal have a difficult time recognizing normal. To this day - they defend this... there is NOTHING normal about this... Edited March 19, 2023 by BillStime 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 (edited) A little legal analysis of the possible criminal charges, starting with Stormy Daniels: - first, the facts: the claim would be that Trump fraudulently characterized as "legal fees" a hush money payment he made through old lawyer Michael Cohen to Stormy Daniels. There doesn't seem to be any dispute that he did this. The new lawyer - Joe Tacopino - is out there saying that Trump was told by Cohen that this payment was actually for some kind of (unspecified) legal fee, and that Trump therefore can't be held responsible for following his lawyer's advice. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-lawyer-puts-forward-stormy-daniels-hush-money-defense-s-not-crim-rcna75082 Is this a good charge? Well, it depends. We already know Cohen has done a 180 and is now ready, willing, and able to thrown Trump under the bus for any and everything they did. So Cohen the witness will say "he knew damn well this was not for my legal fees; I was just the intermediary redirecting the money to Stormy Daniels" (To have some kind of plausible deniability ... to Melania? To the public in case the scandal came out? Because, like his CFO guy Weisselberg, he's just a cheap ass trying to avoid a bit more taxation while paying off hookers? Who knows.) It probably wouldn't be a crime if he'd used his own personal money, but he seems to have used the Trump Company money and (you guessed it) treated it as a legitimate business expense. They don't seem inclined to argue that, so the defense relies on impugning the credibility of Cohen. And he's a pretty easy target ("you did this as part of some kind of cooperation agreement, right? You told him this was a kosher legal expense, right?), but the best witness to rebut Cohen is Trump. And there's no way he's testifying in his own defense. That would be the kind of field day any prosecutor would love. (It doesn't help Trump here that he still officially denies paying a porno actor for sex, which is, well, exactly what he did.) So yeah, it's a good prosecution. By which I mean: the legal theory is sound; the witness is there; there's a good chance of getting a conviction. But ... Should the DA bring such a prosecution? I'd say no. It's not a particularly important issue, and there's no underlying greater purpose (other than exposing the general sleaziness of Trump and to further signal the DA's fundamental dislike of him). For example: if Stormy were plausibly claiming that he sexually harassed her and the bogus payoff was the easiest charge they could bring, there'd be a strong public purpose in doing so. I don't see that here, and it could certainly backfire: Trump could be acquitted, he could benefit from playing the victim card again, etc. After all, his supporters view his scumbaggery as a feature, not as a bug. Edited March 19, 2023 by The Frankish Reich 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Did the IRS go after Al Capone? 1931 - The IRS Intelligence Unit used an undercover agent to gather evidence against gangster Al Capone. Capone was convicted of tax evasion and sentenced to 11 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 more and more this looks like trump wants it. puts him in the news cycle. unless this is some high crime, its not looking good for the DA from a PR standpoint. in any shape or form. IF they end up just ticketing him for a misdemeanor, its going to be horrid optics. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 12 hours ago, ALF said: Did the IRS go after Al Capone? 1931 - The IRS Intelligence Unit used an undercover agent to gather evidence against gangster Al Capone. Capone was convicted of tax evasion and sentenced to 11 years. Exactly. The relevant question is: Would they be prosecuting this if he never became prez? I think they would. He's been thumbing his nose and middle fingering the legal system in NY his whole life. The sleazy, salacious side is interesting but doesn't matter. Anyone who doesn't know that about him already is a cultist. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 1 minute ago, redtail hawk said: Exactly. The relevant question is: Would they be prosecuting this if he never became prez? I think they would. He's been thumbing his nose and middle fingering the legal system in NY his whole life. The sleazy, salacious side is interesting but doesn't matter. Anyone who doesn't know that about him already is a cultist. You realize the charge is paying hush money because he's running for prez and using campaign funds to do it, right? So the answer would be: obviously not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Doc said: You realize the charge is paying hush money because he's running for prez and using campaign funds to do it, right? So the answer would be: obviously not. did u consider the scenario in which he ran and lost in 2016? how the hell did you get thru gross anatomy and physiology? Edited March 20, 2023 by redtail hawk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 13 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: did u consider the scenario in which he ran and lost in 2016? how the hell did you get thru gross anatomy and physiology? then he would do like clinton and Obama did and pay a fine? In the big picture, stormy got ripped off. Old billy gave paula like 850K way back in the 90's 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Just now, Chris farley said: then he would do like clinton and Obama did and pay a fine? In the big picture, stormy got ripped off. Old billy gave paula like 850K way back in the 90's nope. I think the Al Capone analogy is great. He's slippery and slimy as an oiled eel. You get him on what you can. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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