Police Terrorism Group

[BullBuchanan]

Reminder: All Cops are "a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims."

20 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:

Jon Mattingly, member of Louisville branch of organized terrorist police group who murdered Breonna Taylor sends an email to 1000 member sof law enforcement. In it, calling protestors thugs and pitting the police department directly against the people of Louisville by way of his statements against the Mayor, the duly elected representative of the people.

It's interesting that this scumbag who murdered someone takes no responsibility for his actions, but instead blames the mayor for failing to back his play. To somehow still still yourself as a beacon of light in a dark and evil world after you murdered an innocent woman who worked every day to save lives, is mind-blowingly oblivious. The world is not evil, but Jon Mattingly is.

He says he did the right thing that night. He refers to Breonna Taylor, an innocent woman as a criminal. He murdered an innocent woman and says he did the right thing.

How long are you going to keep defending this *****, Jim?

"I’m not here to give you a Rah Rah you got this speech. I’m not here to tell you that you signed up to help this community and to keep your head up. I’m here to tell you I’m sorry you have to go through this. I’m sorry your families have to go through this. I’m sorry the Mayor, Amy Hess and Chief Conrad failed all of us in epic proportions for their own gain and to cover their asses.

You DO NOT DESERVE to be in this position. The position that allows thugs to get in your face and yell, curse and degrade you. Throw bricks, bottles and urine on you and expect you to do nothing. It goes against EVERYTHING we were all taught in the academy. The position that if you make a mistake during one of the most stressful times in your career, the department and FBI (who aren’t cops and would piss their pants if they had to hold the line) go after you for civil rights violations. Your civil rights mean nothing, but the criminal has total autonomy.

We all signed up to be police officers. We knew the risks and were willing to take them, but we always assumed the city had your back. We wanted To do the right thing in the midst of an evil world to protect those who cannot protect themselves. To enforce laws that make it possible to live in a peaceful society. We as police DO NOT CARE if you are black, white, Hispanic, Asian, what you identify as...this week. We aren’t better than anyone. This is not an us against society, but it is good versus evil. We are sons, daughters, husbands, wives, parters, brothers, sisters, dads and moms. We are human beings with flaws, feelings and emotions.

Now I’m just rambling, but I want you to know that I’m still proud to be a cop. To be an LMPD cop. No matter the ineptitude in upper command or the mayors office, this is one of the greatest jobs on earth. With that being said these next few days are going to be tough. They are going to be long, they are going to be frustrating. They will put a tremendous amount of stress on your families. Do not let your ego get you in a trick bag. Have your partners 6. De escalate if possible. DO NOT give the pencil pushers at the top, you know the ones who are too scared to hold the line, a reason to open investigations on you. The same ones that couldn’t make decisions to save their lives. We need leaders that lead from the front and not in a room under a desk. Do what you need to do to go home you your family. Just do it with dignity and make sure you can justify your actions because everything down there is recorded.

 

I don’t know a lot of you guys/gals but I’ve felt the love. Regardless of the outcome today or Wednesday, I know we did the legal, moral and ethical thing that night. It’s sad how the good guys are demonized, and criminals are canonized. Put that aside for a while, keep your focus and do your jobs that you are trained and capable of doing. Don’t put up with their *****, and go home to those lovely families and relationships.

I wish I were there with you leading the charge. I’ll be praying for your safety. Remember you are just a pawn in the Mayors political game. I’m proof they do not care about you or your family, and you are replaceable. Stay safe and do the right thing. YOU ARE LOVED AND SUPPORTED by most of the community. Now go be the Warriors you are, but please be safe! None of these “peaceful” protesters are worth your career or freedom. God speed boys and girls."

 

https://www.wave3.com/2020/09/22/jon-mattingly-officer-involved-breonna-taylor-shooting-sends-candid-email-lmpd-colleagues/

4 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:

If they aren't defined by violence and political motivation, what then?

To be clear - you've said the police as a group are good people with a few bad apples
The data makes it clear that they've killed exponentially more Americans than every than every terrorist organization combined
Their own words say they are in a "battle of good vs evil"
The FBI has found significant levels of gang and white supremacist involvement within the ranks of the police

There are countless videos showing groups of dozens or more police instigating violence or refusing to intervene while they watch other members commit violence
They settle thousands of cases of police misconduct for millions of dollars at taxpayer expense
They are routinely caught covering up badge numbers to prevent identification and turning off body cameras to prevent their actions from being witnessed by the public

Pretend for a second that you were raised somewhere else and that as small children we weren't repetitively told by media that police are good people and heroes and that we should aspire to grow up to be one of them. Pretend for a second that you don't know a police officer who happens to be a nice guy to you or who did you a solid once. Once you've put yourself in that space, take a look at the actions of thousands upon thousands of police officers who have been videotaped  and/or credibly reported doing the above things and tell me that you still think that police are the good guys, and the people protesting their behavior are the "violent thugs" and "terrorists".

If you still think that - why? At what point would your opinion change? Is there a magic number, or a certain event that would have to occur?

 

[aristocrat]

8 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

What set the tone? the 13 pages of people murdered and assaulted by the police that I've posted here for you. I have hundreds of additional examples.

Have the police done more good than bad in your opinion? If they hav throw a percentage on it. Like  I would say 99 percent good and 1 percent bad 

[BullBuchanan]

2 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

No 13 pages of a person who seems to have lost it saying ALL cops are murderers, terrorists and killers of dogs and autistic children.  

 

I'll change my line of questioning.  Have you had any BAD encounters with law enforcement?  

 

I'm waiting for an adult to join the conversation.  I don't have conversations with the guys yelling at the sky on Market street in SF either. 

So I did not post dozens of examples of police violence?

My experiences with police are anecdotal and prone to bias. I'll let the experiences of others and empirical data due the talking.

Have you had any "BAD" encounters with middle eastern terrorist groups? 

[Dragoon]

4 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

Have you had any "BAD" encounters with middle eastern terrorist groups? 

 
Erm, question, are there good middle eastern terrorist groups?

[BullBuchanan]

1 minute ago, aristocrat said:

Have the police done more good than bad in your opinion? If they hav throw a percentage on it. Like  I would say 99 percent good and 1 percent bad 

According to data provided by police departments themselves, and reported on by the NY Times, police spend roughly 4% of their time working on violent calls. In that 4% of time they kill more people per capita than any developed nation and commit acts that result in thousands of police misconduct cases per year.

When I consider your question, I have to ask myself if it matters. If they are only responding to violent crime such a small percentage of their day and it results in such a high rate of violence committed on their behalf is a metric of how often they didn't kill or assault someone a valid argument that they are "more good" than bad?

What "good" are they actually doing? We know that police don't actually prevent violent crime in most cases. Does handing out a speeding ticket, arresting someone for weed possession or writing a report on vandalism fall into the category of "good" or are we talking about preventing crime, arresting violent criminals, and helping old ladies get cats out of trees? 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/19/upshot/unrest-police-time-violent-crime.html

[Westside]

44 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

Yes, they must be as they are all part of a terrorist organization as I've defined it.

Why are you so hung up on the word "terrorist"? It's simply a collection of letters that has a definition that happens to apply in this case.

 

Wouldn't our time be better spent talking about how they do or do not fit the definition of that word? Very few, if any, people set out to be "terrorists" and likewise very few, if any, organizations refer to themselves as "terrorists". It's a label placed on them by people external to their organization based on their behavior.

I'm beginning to think you're a terrorist. 

[Chef Jim]

7 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

So I did not post dozens of examples of police violence?

My experiences with police are anecdotal and prone to bias. I'll let the experiences of others and empirical data due the talking.

Have you had any "BAD" encounters with middle eastern terrorist groups? 

 

How many GOOD encounters have their been with police officer where they performed GREAT services for the public?  I think it's safe to say it is a pretty high percentage. But you focus on the negative and when you see blue you think terrorist.  From what I've seen there are over 10,000,000 arrests each year but you have come up with dozens...DOZENS of violent interactions.  See the error of your conclusions?  

 

I've had only GREAT experiences with police officers.  And that includes while handcuffed in the back of a cruiser as I thanked him for his service.  He was in the military before becoming a police officer.  My brother in law is a cop and the one of the nicest guys I've ever met.  But don't be shy.  Share yours.  It might shine a light on your attitude towards those in blue. 

 

And if you make one more comparison between law enforcement and middle eastern terrorists................

[IDBillzFan]

49 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Sorry if I'm being redundant with my line of questions.  I'm just so floored at your responses that you can't be saying that.  So I'll ask again.

 

In your mind is every police officer a terrorist?  

 

He's been very clear that ALL police are terrorists and he is oppressed because of it.

 

Which is there was so much stupidity from him trying to make sure we all understand the definition of 'defund.'

 

He wants no police, and no funding of police. Because he's oppressed. I asked him HOW he was oppressed, he linked me to some ridiculous map of places where police hurt people.

 

 

[BullBuchanan]

Police officers tries to kill dog (shocker), but shoots and kills woman instead (double shocked). He was indicted today on criminally negligent homicide, a lesser penalty than involuntary manslaughter that suggests the suspect was not acting "recklessly". Once again, leniency prevails.

Body-cam footage shows Arlington officer fatally shooting woman as he fires at dog

Authorities had been called to perform a welfare check on 30-year-old Margarita "Maggie" Victoria Brooks, who was passed out in a grassy area near a shopping center she frequented.

By Claire Cardona, Loyd Brumfield, Emma Ruby and Tom Steele

7:12 PM on Aug 2, 2019

 

 

Updated at 6 p.m. Aug. 2: Revised to include the officer's body-cam footage.

ARLINGTON — An Arlington police officer took just seconds to fire three shots — one of which fatally struck a woman — after a dog started running toward him Thursday afternoon, body-camera footage shows.

Maggie Brooks(via Facebook)

Authorities had been called to perform a welfare check on 30-year-old Margarita "Maggie" Victoria Brooks, who was reported to be passed out in a grassy area near a shopping center she frequented.

Brooks, the daughter of an Arlington fire captain, was struck once in the chest and died at 6 p.m. at Medical City Arlington Hospital, according to the Tarrant County medical examiner's office.

The dog survived and was taken to an animal shelter. It was unclear whether it was Brooks' dog.

Authorities were called about 5:15 p.m. to check on Brooks, who was lying in a grassy area near Cantor Drive and North Collins Street.

 

As a police officer approached her, an unrestrained dog began to run at him and bark, police said. The officer retreated from the dog, pulled out his gun and fired three times.

Police said that Brooks yelled after the shots were fired and that it was "apparent she was injured."

 

According to Police Chief Will Johnson, the officer had undergone eight hours of training for canine encounters, as well as mandatory firearms training.

"Everything about this call is an absolute tragedy," Johnson said at a news conference Friday afternoon. "Our hearts are broken for the Brooks family and the police officer involved."

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2019/08/03/body-cam-footage-shows-arlington-officer-fatally-shooting-woman-as-he-fires-at-dog/

[aristocrat]

3 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

According to data provided by police departments themselves, and reported on by the NY Times, police spend roughly 4% of their time working on violent calls. In that 4% of time they kill more people per capita than any developed nation and commit acts that result in thousands of police misconduct cases per year.

When I consider your question, I have to ask myself if it matters. If they are only responding to violent crime such a small percentage of their day and it results in such a high rate of violence committed on their behalf is a metric of how often they didn't kill or assault someone a valid argument that they are "more good" than bad?

What "good" are they actually doing? We know that police don't actually prevent violent crime in most cases. Does handing out a speeding ticket, arresting someone for weed possession or writing a report on vandalism fall into the category of "good" or are we talking about preventing crime, arresting violent criminals, and helping old ladies get cats out of trees? 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/19/upshot/unrest-police-time-violent-crime.html

Yes putting criminals in jail for committing crimes against innocent people. I’d say those are good things and they far outweigh any of the bad that happens 

[Chef Jim]

https://www.foxnews.com/us/missouri-teacher-charged-with-hiring-hitman-to-kill-student-10-who-he-allegedly-molested-report

 

Teachers belong to a terrorist organization! 

 

https://abcnews.go.com/US/michigan-accountant-accused-killing-boss-embezzlement/story?id=24348449

 

Accountants belong to a terrorist organization! 

 

I've worked with three chef's who have murdered someone

 

Chefs belong to a terrorist organization!

 

See how silly you sound?  

 

 

[Dragoon]

For all the “progressives” out there who think defunding the police is a good idea, do you know they’ve been protecting you these past few months?

 

If there were no cops, who do you think would respond to your temper tantrum riots? Armed civilians with no ROE. These soy boy antifers have no idea what violence really is, but if the police are really defunded (and they won’t be) they’ll find out. 

3 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

Yes putting criminals in jail for committing crimes against innocent people. I’d say those are good things and they far outweigh any of the bad that happens 

My sweet summer child......

[Alaska Darin]

Someone needs to send this tool the stats for hospitalized Americans.  Our doctors make the SS look like the girl scouts.  I can only imagine the fun we'll have with him on that.

[3rdnlng]

2 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:

So if my evidence is valid, what's the problem?

Your reading comprehension could use a little help. I never said that your evidence was valid. You Canadians sure take a lot for granted. 

[BullBuchanan]

1 hour ago, Chef Jim said:

 

How many GOOD encounters have their been with police officer where they performed GREAT services for the public?  I think it's safe to say it is a pretty high percentage. But you focus on the negative and when you see blue you think terrorist.  From what I've seen there are over 10,000,000 arrests each year but you have come up with dozens...DOZENS of violent interactions.  See the error of your conclusions?  

 

I've had only GREAT experiences with police officers.  And that includes while handcuffed in the back of a cruiser as I thanked him for his service.  He was in the military before becoming a police officer.  My brother in law is a cop and the one of the nicest guys I've ever met.  But don't be shy.  Share yours.  It might shine a light on your attitude towards those in blue. 

 

And if you make one more comparison between law enforcement and middle eastern terrorists................

Aaand there it is. You're avoiding my data and playing games because you have family who is a cop. You probably take a great deal of offense at "one of the nicest guys [you've] ever met" being labeled a terrorist. After all, he's a great guy.
 

You had a "GREAT" experience while being handcuffed and detained in the back of a squad car? So that experience made your day better than it otherwise would have been had it not occurred at all? 

You really don't want to keep guessing at percentages.

Here's the deal, maybe your BIL is actually a good cop. Maybe he doesn't beat his wife or his kids, maybe he doesn't kill people's dogs, mace children in the face, beat the ***** out of suspects or shoot journalists at close range with "less lethal" ammunition.

Maybe he actually doesn't do any of those things, but he's part of an organization that does. He's part of an organization that claims they're in a war against evil when they really only spend 4% of their time working any crimes related to violence. Statistically speaking, many of his co-workers are likely to abuse their spouse or children. Maybe he doesn't buy into Dave Grossman's philosophy of "Sheep", "Sheepdogs", "Wolves" and "Warrior Cops" but he works with people that do. If I take you at your work that he is indeed a great person, capable of no acts of excessive violence, then he is still, at best, and accessory to those that are. He has their back, and they have his. While he may not be a terrorist in search of an organization, he is indeed a member of a terrorist organization. 

If you want to say one can be a member of a terrorist organization and not be a terrorist themselves, we can have that conversation, though I think the language of it is pretty clear.

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said:

According to data provided by police departments themselves, and reported on by the NY Times, police spend roughly 4% of their time working on violent calls. In that 4% of time they kill more people per capita than any developed nation and commit acts that result in thousands of police misconduct cases per year.

When I consider your question, I have to ask myself if it matters. If they are only responding to violent crime such a small percentage of their day and it results in such a high rate of violence committed on their behalf is a metric of how often they didn't kill or assault someone a valid argument that they are "more good" than bad?

What "good" are they actually doing? We know that police don't actually prevent violent crime in most cases. Does handing out a speeding ticket, arresting someone for weed possession or writing a report on vandalism fall into the category of "good" or are we talking about preventing crime, arresting violent criminals, and helping old ladies get cats out of trees? 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/19/upshot/unrest-police-time-violent-crime.html

 

1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said:

Aaand there it is. You're avoiding my data and playing games because you have family who is a cop. You probably take a great deal of offense at "one of the nicest guys [you've] ever met" being labeled a terrorist. After all, he's a great guy.
 

You had a "GREAT" experience while being handcuffed and detained in the back of a squad car? So that experience made your day better than it otherwise would have been had it not occurred at all? 

You really don't want to keep guessing at percentages.

Here's the deal, maybe your BIL is actually a good cop. Maybe he doesn't beat his wife or his kids, maybe he doesn't kill people's dogs, mace children in the face, beat the ***** out of suspects or shoot journalists at close range with "less lethal" ammunition.

Maybe he actually doesn't do any of those things, but he's part of an organization that does. He's part of an organization that claims they're in a war against evil when they really only spend 4% of their time working any crimes related to violence. Statistically speaking, many of his co-workers are likely to abuse their spouse or children. Maybe he doesn't buy into Dave Grossman's philosophy of "Sheep", "Sheepdogs", "Wolves" and "Warrior Cops" but he works with people that do. If I take you at your work that he is indeed a great person, capable of no acts of excessive violence, then he is still, at best, and accessory to those that are. He has their back, and they have his. While he may not be a terrorist in search of an organization, he is indeed a member of a terrorist organization. 

If you want to say one can be a member of a terrorist organization and not be a terrorist themselves, we can have that conversation, though I think the language of it is pretty clear.

 

So when some dirt bag breaks into your home and threatens your life and the lives of your family don't call the cops. 

[BullBuchanan]

1 hour ago, aristocrat said:

Yes putting criminals in jail for committing crimes against innocent people. I’d say those are good things and they far outweigh any of the bad that happens 

Ok. So putting people in jail for crimes outweighs any of the bad the happens?

How many people do you have to arrest for driving without insurance to balance out siccing a police dog on a defenseless and unarmed man on his knees with his hands above his head?

How many arrests of murderers does it take to balance out murdering an innocent woman in her home in the middle of the night?

The thousands and thousands of people per year that settle with the city as victims of police misconduct probably don't think so. 

3 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

 

So when some dirt bag breaks into your home and threatens your life and the lives of your family don't call the cops. 

Why, do I need someone to show up 2 hours late and kill my dog? Police don't stop robberies. Every 10 years when they show up on time, they make a movie about it.

1 hour ago, Dragoon said:

For all the “progressives” out there who think defunding the police is a good idea, do you know they’ve been protecting you these past few months?

 

If there were no cops, who do you think would respond to your temper tantrum riots? Armed civilians with no ROE. These soy boy antifers have no idea what violence really is, but if the police are really defunded (and they won’t be) they’ll find out. 

My sweet summer child......

You think conservatives are the only one with guns? Man, you really don't know anything about the left. One day we're violent criminals and the next we're "soy boys".

As the saying goes, ***** around and find out.

[BullBuchanan]

1 hour ago, Chef Jim said:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/missouri-teacher-charged-with-hiring-hitman-to-kill-student-10-who-he-allegedly-molested-report

 

Teachers belong to a terrorist organization! 

 

https://abcnews.go.com/US/michigan-accountant-accused-killing-boss-embezzlement/story?id=24348449

 

Accountants belong to a terrorist organization! 

 

I've worked with three chef's who have murdered someone

 

Chefs belong to a terrorist organization!

 

See how silly you sound?  

 

 

Do chefs and accountants promote a culture of violence in their recruitment and ongoing place of work?

 

Do they have official training that tells them they are the last line of defense in a war against evil?

 

When they murder people, do their unions protect them and vilify the prosecutors?

 

Do prosecutors give them a slap on the wrist when they commit heinous crimes or refuse to bring charges altogether?

 

When they do get charged, do juries give them the benefit of the doubt?

 

When juries do convict them are they shown leniency at sentencing?
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If you don't see the difference here, please tell me how you define organized terrorism or crime?

Edited September 24, 2020 by BullBuchanan

[3rdnlng]

1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said:

How many arrests of murderers does it take to balance out murdering an innocent woman in her home in the middle of the night?

I presume you are referring to Breonna Taylor? Guess what, a grand jury decided that none of the cops murdered her, even though you made a rather lengthy post accusing Officer Mattingly of doing just that earlier in this thread. In fact, you've made the statement that every time a cop shoots someone it's murder. You even went so far as to state that cops murder over 1000 people per year. Well, I stated that 9 unarmed black people (and 19 whites) were killed by police in 2019. So, it doesn't matter if the 1000 had weapons and most likely many of them actually used them against the police?

[Dragoon]

55 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

 

You think conservatives are the only one with guns? Man, you really don't know anything about the left. One day we're violent criminals and the next we're "soy boys".

As the saying goes, ***** around and find out.

Anybody with a gun is dangerous. An untrained teenager can kill a Navy SEAL quite easily if they have a gun. 
 

That said.......that said.......man, I don’t think the left knows what they’re talking about when they advocate for violence. They’ll advocate for it till they run into Trump loving combat vets, and the quite types who just want to be left alone. 
 

Also, have you any idea how long it takes to get good with a gun? Do you have any idea how many guys need to be good with guns and tactics to conduct operations? I doubt you do. Maybe I’m wrong. Maybe. But man... Most folks can go to the gun store and buy something....but do they know how to use it? Do they know the ballistics, bullet drops, what kind of ammo to buy and so on...I am laughing. 
 

That said....continued violence in the streets would be horrific. HORRIFIC. 

 

....cause here’s how it’d go down. These Proud Boys hold a rally, and somebody shoots at them....a few days later a Antifa/BLM protest gets shot by proud boys. Then it spirals into anarchy and chaos and things will be miserable and awful. To prevent this we have police. The end. 

Edited September 24, 2020 by Dragoon

[Chef Jim]

1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said:

Aaand there it is. You're avoiding my data and playing games because you have family who is a cop. You probably take a great deal of offense at "one of the nicest guys [you've] ever met" being labeled a terrorist. After all, he's a great guy.

I’m not avoiding your data at all. It’s not your data that’s the problem.  The problem is YOU and how you’ve allowed your emotions and biases against law enforcement to cloud your ability to think critically and use the data. In your mind a few cops are bad therefore they are all bad. One of the worst conclusions I’ve ever heard.  By BIL has nothing to do with my attitude towards law enforcement. My attitude was formed long before her joined the force. 
 

1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said:

 

You had a "GREAT" experience while being handcuffed and detained in the back of a squad car? So that experience made your day better than it otherwise would have been had it not occurred at all? 

What made my situation “great”?   It was  the professionalism and empathy the officer had.  And the reason it occurred had nothing to do with the officer and everything to do with me. 
 

1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said:

Maybe he actually doesn't do any of those things, but he's part of an organization that does. He's part of an organization that claims they're in a war against evil when they really only spend 4% of their time working any crimes related to violence. Statistically speaking, many of his co-workers are likely to abuse their spouse or children.

Are evil crimes only violent ones? Is dealing drugs to addicts or even children a violent crime?  Is arresting someone for driving blind drunk a violent crime?  Is burglary a violent crime?  Is bribery a violent crime?  Is racketeering a violent crime?  The answer to all them is NO!  Are they evil?  ***** yes. 

You are lost my friend. I wish you luck and hope you never need a great cop to help you. Because God forbid you see the good side of law enforcement which likely makes up a large majority of law enforcement. 

 

[BullBuchanan]

1 hour ago, Dragoon said:

Anybody with a gun is dangerous. An untrained teenager can kill a Navy SEAL quite easily if they have a gun. 
 

That said.......that said.......man, I don’t think the left knows what they’re talking about when they advocate for violence. They’ll advocate for it till they run into Trump loving combat vets, and the quite types who just want to be left alone. 
 

Also, have you any idea how long it takes to get good with a gun? Do you have any idea how many guys need to be good with guns and tactics to conduct operations? I doubt you do. Maybe I’m wrong. Maybe. But man... Most folks can go to the gun store and buy something....but do they know how to use it? Do they know the ballistics, bullet drops, what kind of ammo to buy and so on...I am laughing. 

I actually do. I shot competitively for years and as a teenager my friend and I would regularly best active duty and former military who were using modern rifles while we were shooting with WW2 era rifles. I've also received NRA "Distinguished Expert" recognition. 

I just don't feel the need to ***** about guns.

Again, you act like there aren't any leftist vets out there. Not everyone prays at the alter of a fat orange trust fund slob. 

[Dragoon]

7 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

I actually do. I shot competitively for years and as a teenager my friend and I would regularly best active duty and former military who were using modern rifles while we were shooting with WW2 era rifles. I've also received NRA "Distinguished Expert" recognition. 

I just don't feel the need to ***** about guns.

Again, you act like there aren't any leftist vets out there. Not everyone prays at the alter of a fat orange trust fund slob. 

Settle down, Francis. 
 

But back to my point....we do NOT want mass violence in the streets. That’s why we have cops. And god bless them. 

Edited September 24, 2020 by Dragoon

[Sig1Hunter]

24 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

I’m not avoiding your data at all. It’s not your data that’s the problem.  The problem is YOU and how you’ve allowed your emotions and biases against law enforcement to cloud your ability to think critically and use the data. In your mind a few cops are bad therefore they are all bad. One of the worst conclusions I’ve ever heard.  By BIL has nothing to do with my attitude towards law enforcement. My attitude was formed long before her joined the force. 
 

What made my situation “great”?   It was  the professionalism and empathy the officer had.  And the reason it occurred had nothing to do with the officer and everything to do with me. 
 

Are evil crimes only violent ones? Is dealing drugs to addicts or even children a violent crime?  Is arresting someone for driving blind drunk a violent crime?  Is burglary a violent crime?  Is bribery a violent crime?  Is racketeering a violent crime?  The answer to all them is NO!  Are they evil?  ***** yes. 

You are lost my friend. I wish you luck and hope you never need a great cop to help you. Because God forbid you see the good side of law enforcement which likely makes up a large majority of law enforcement. 

 

My life has been so much better since I put him on ignore. He’s proven time and again to be a liar. Everyone knows what he is. 

[BullBuchanan]

20 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

I’m not avoiding your data at all. It’s not your data that’s the problem.  The problem is YOU and how you’ve allowed your emotions and biases against law enforcement to cloud your ability to think critically and use the data. In your mind a few cops are bad therefore they are all bad. One of the worst conclusions I’ve ever heard.  By BIL has nothing to do with my attitude towards law enforcement. My attitude was formed long before her joined the force.

 

You are lost my friend. I wish you luck and hope you never need a great cop to help you. Because God forbid you see the good side of law enforcement which likely makes up a large majority of law enforcement. 

What a crock of *****. You've either completely ignored every single story in this thread or discounted it as a "bad apple" - usually far more of the latter. I've presented dozens of cases of systemic problems within the force including evidence of their unions, leadership, and officers behaving inappropriately as well as the training they receive. What evidence have you provided in response? " I know a good cop"

Where are your numbers? Where are your sources?


As for "needing" a cop, I couldn't possibly imagine a scenario where a police officer could improve the outcome of any situation I would find myself in. At absolute best, they are a useless waste of time and drain on my tax dollars. At worst? They're a threat to everyone and everything they meet.

1 minute ago, Sig1Hunter said:

My life has been so much better since I put him on ignore. He’s proven time and again to be a liar. Everyone knows what he is. 

Funny how not a single person, especially you, has proven any of the hundreds of posts I've made on this subject, a lie. 

[BullBuchanan]

More cops attacking unarmed protestors with weapons.
 

Why are all cops terrorists? Because none of them stop this.

Conservatives like to talk a lot about private companies restricting their free speech. When the free speech of others is actually restricted by the government, as the 1rst amendment is intended to prevent, you have nothing to say or you join the side of the oppressor. You don't want freedom for all, you want freedom for you. Most of all, you'll even take less freedom if if means hurting people you have a difference of economic or social policy with.

Own the left, no matter the cost.
 

 

Look at all these cowards afraid of a bunch of kids in shorts & thsirts while they're in full armor with weapons refusing to take any accountability for their murder of an innocent woman. 

A bunch of "warrior cops" who only see "wolves".
 

 

Edited September 24, 2020 by BullBuchanan

[BullBuchanan]

16 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said:

My life has been so much better since I put him on ignore. He’s proven time and again to be a liar. Everyone knows what he is. 

Your hero, terrorist Dave Grossman on "Killology: (His self named bootcamp and pseudoscience on how to kill people).

This piece of ***** and charlatan trains the most police officers in the country, actively promoting the use of deadly force and teaching cops to pretend to be Batman.

You want to know what the biggest problem with America's police force is?


Dave Grossman
Qualified Immunity
Police Unions

In that order.
 

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Grossman’s classes teach officers to be less hesitant to use lethal force, urge them to be willing to do it more quickly and teach them how to adopt the mentality of a warrior. Jeronimo Yanez, the Minnesota police officer who shot and killed Philando Castile in July, had attended one of Grossman’s classes called “The Bulletproof Warrior”

 

In the class recorded for “Do Not Resist,” Grossman at one point tells his students that the sex they have after they kill another human being will be the best sex of their lives. The room chuckles. But he’s clearly serious.

 

Grossman closes the class with a (literal) chest-pounding motivational speech that climaxes with Grossman telling the officers to find an overpass overlooking the city they serve. He urges them to look down on their city and know that they’ve made the world a better place. He then urges them to grip the overpass railing, lean forward and “let your cape blow in the wind.” The room gives him a standing ovation.

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Marching around the stage in a theater in Lakeport, California, Lt. Colonel Dave Grossman tells his audience that they shouldn’t go out looking for people to kill, because those who need killing—the “gangbangers,” terrorists, and mass murderers—will come to them. All they need to do is be ready. “Are you prepared to kill somebody?” he asks me and the small group of “armed citizens” who’ve paid $90 or more to see him. “If you cannot answer that question, you should not be carrying a gun.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2017/02/14/a-day-with-killology-police-trainer-dave-grossman/

 

Two hours into his high-octane, six-hour seminar, the self-described top police trainer in the nation is just getting warmed up. “We fight violence. What do we fight it with? Superior violence. Righteous violence.” 

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[Grossman] views the world as almost unrecognizably dangerous: a place where gang members seek to set records for killing cops, where a kid “in every school” is thinking about racking up “a body count.” His latest book, Assassination Generation, insists that violent video games are turning the nation’s youth into mass murderers. The recent wave of “massacres” is just the beginning. (“Please stop calling them mass shootings!”) He smacks the easels: “These [thump] crimes [thump] are [thump] everywhere!” He foresees attacks on school buses and day care centers. “Kindergartners run about point-five miles an hour and get a burst of about 20 yards and then they’re done.” It won’t just happen with guns, but with hammers, axes, hatchets, knives, and swords. His voice jumps an octave: “Hacking and stabbing little kids! You don’t think they’ll attack day cares? It’s already happening in China. When you hear about a day care massacre,” he shouts, “tell them Grossman said it was coming!”

[Chef Jim]

19 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

What a crock of *****. You've either completely ignored every single story in this thread or discounted it as a "bad apple" - usually far more of the latter. I've presented dozens of cases of systemic problems within the force including evidence of their unions, leadership, and officers behaving inappropriately as well as the training they receive. What evidence have you provided in response? " I know a good cop"

Where are your numbers? Where are your sources?


As for "needing" a cop, I couldn't possibly imagine a scenario where a police officer could improve the outcome of any situation I would find myself in. At absolute best, they are a useless waste of time and drain on my tax dollars. At worst? They're a threat to everyone and everything they meet.

Funny how not a single person, especially you, has proven any of the hundreds of posts I've made on this subject, a lie. 

Of course I’ve ignored every every single story you’ve posted here because you’re calling every cops a terrorist because a few “bad apples”. 
 

A threat to everyone and everything they meet. Good lord man.  You are in a sad sad place. I hope you never find yourself in a horrible wreck and relying on a evil police officer to pull you to safety. 
 

Oh and was this you?

 

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMJUSguAW/

 

I have nothing more to say to you on this topic. 

[BullBuchanan]

15 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Oh and was this you?

 

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMJUSguAW/

 

I have nothing more to say to you on this topic. 

I wonder how many dogs he's killed.

[BullBuchanan]

Couple more of those bad apples, this time featuring Police Chiefs

I’m telling you, you know what, Donald Trump is the last hope for white people, cause Hillary will give it to all the minorities to get a vote," former Bordentown Township Chief Frank Nucera said, according to a transcript displayed at trial. “That’s the truth! I’m telling you.”
https://www.nj.com/burlington/2019/09/nj-cop-again-testifies-against-his-former-chief-who-said-trump-was-last-hope-for-white-people.html

 

Residents of Price and nearby Helper have revived calls for the Price City police chief to step down, due to concerns that he is racially biased. Calls for his resignation first came in 2017, after Brandon Sicilia, then a sergeant, posted derogatory comments about Black and Muslim people on Facebook, and again in 2019, when he was promoted to police chief. 

In 2016, Sicilia called former President Barack Obama and rapper Busta Rhymes the N-word in a post on Facebook, and he called Michelle Obama a “strumpet monkey” in another. He also called the former president a Muslim and said that’s why Obama hates “pigs”, or cops. 
https://www.unionleader.com/news/politics/local/police-chief-saddened-and-sickened-by-ruling-about-cop-texting-racist-statements/article_97dc13f4-8336-55b8-a65a-1fc37eccfa50.html

Police Chief of Orlando kneels with protestors for the cameras before attacking them with chemical weapons

 

 

But now it looks like the kneel could also be in danger of devolving into performative nonsense.

That was the case Tuesday evening, when Detroit PD officers kneeled for the media's cameras — just minutes after arresting 100 or so peaceful protesters on the east side. (See the 56:00 mark in this Free Press video.) When Detroit Police Chief James Craig joined the group, they kneeled again, at the behest of members of the community, chanting, "Justice" and "DPD."

Laron Singletary - Fired Police Chief of Rochester:|
 

“We certainly do not want people to misinterpret the officers’ actions and conflate this incident with any recent killings of unarmed Black men by law enforcement nationally,” a deputy Rochester police chief wrote in an email to his boss. “That would simply be a false narrative, and could create animosity and potentially violent blowback in this community as a result.”

His advice was clear: Don’t release the body camera footage to the Prude family’s lawyer. The police chief replied minutes later: “I totally agree.”

 

There was also a deliberate effort to portray Prude in a certain light—seemingly, one that could justify his death in the eyes of law enforcement:

In a police report on the confrontation, marking a box for “victim type,” an officer on the scene listed Mr. Prude — who the police believed had broken a store window that night — simply as an “individual.” But another officer circled the word in red and scribbled a note.

“Make him a suspect,” it read.
 

theroot.com/make-him-a-suspect-rochester-city-records-confirm-co-1845081937

[3rdnlng]

52 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

 

Look at all these cowards afraid of a bunch of kids in shorts & thsirts while they're in full armor with weapons refusing to take any accountability for their murder of an innocent woman. 

A bunch of "warrior cops" who only see "wolves".
 

 

Two Louisville cops got shot tonight. Double proof that all so called protesters are murderers.

[BullBuchanan]

7 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

Two Louisville cops got shot tonight. Double proof that all so called protesters are murderers.

Reap what you sow.

[BillStime]

10 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

Two Louisville cops got shot tonight. Double proof that all so called protesters are murderers.

I can’t imagine why this is happening

 

 

 

[3rdnlng]

25 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

Reap what you sow.

Now, cop killers are ok in your book?

[Chef Jim]

1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said:

I wonder how many dogs he's killed.

Is that where your mind goes the minute you see a police officer?  And you wonder why you receive personal attacks.  

[BillsToast]

Don't feed the trolls...

 

It's obvious the left is run by Marxists and terrorists and funded by outside influences. 

 

They don't care about 200k Americans because when a cop is killed they celebrate it. They laughed and mocked Trump's brother's death. 

 

They scream hypocrisy that they are guilty of. It's all a charade of unhinged maniacs. 

[BullBuchanan]

3 minutes ago, BillsToast said:

It's obvious the left is run by Marxists and terrorists and funded by outside influences. 

 

 

I ***** wish. 

28 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

Is that where your mind goes the minute you see a police officer?  And you wonder why you receive personal attacks.  

First it goes to the fact that there's a 40% he beats his wife or kids. Then it goes to the fact that he's probably abused his power to assault, intimidate or harass an innocent person. After that it gets to killing dogs.

[Chef Jim]

1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said:

Reap what you sow.

Two points. 
 

1. ***** you!

2. So criminals reap what they sow too?

3. ***** you!

 

Sorry that was three.  

[All_Pro_Bills]

10 hours ago, 3rdnlng said:

I presume you are referring to Breonna Taylor? Guess what, a grand jury decided that none of the cops murdered her, even though you made a rather lengthy post accusing Officer Mattingly of doing just that earlier in this thread. In fact, you've made the statement that every time a cop shoots someone it's murder. You even went so far as to state that cops murder over 1000 people per year. Well, I stated that 9 unarmed black people (and 19 whites) were killed by police in 2019. So, it doesn't matter if the 1000 had weapons and most likely many of them actually used them against the police?

I've served on grand juries at the county and federal levels.  In my experience its a rubber stamp of the prosecutors case with only a few exceptions.  So the question is what evidence, testimony, or statements did the prosecutors office provide to the grand jury that led them to reach the decisions they made concerning the actions of the cops involved?  Based on the process if the prosecutor presented evidence with intent to indict the cops in this case the grand jury would have supported that outcome.  My conclusion is the prosecutors did not want to indict the cops in this case and that has nothing to do with their guilt or innocence at this point in the process. 

So the questions and scrutiny for the decision should fall on the prosecutors office.  Queuing up the expecting protests and rioting while taking out anger against the Louisville police force and local businesses isn't going to address that point.  A more sound approach would be to get a good legal team and raise some questions, file motions, and litigate against the prosecutors office and the city.  

[BullBuchanan]

Seattle branch of organized terrorist police force deliberately runs over an injured man's head with their bike.