Backintheday544 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 minute ago, TakeYouToTasker said: The President did exactly this with his election filing, as he mentioned. The taxes bit is about “showing” people who are ignorant of real estate and corporate accounting practices that the “President only paid $750 in taxes, while you paid thousands, and he’s a billionaire!!! How outrageous!!! He’s a tax avoiders!!!” Which is exactly why Democratic talking points uniformly lined up that way. Trump can be like, loom NYT you're fake news. Here's my taxes. It shuts down that point so fast. Taxes show a ton of things. I for one would love to see the foreign disclosures. It doesn't show what the left wants them to show tho. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 14 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said: It was hard to tell whose turn it was to talk with Trump always interrupting so that may have prejudiced your opinion. Well he was getting tagteamed so he had to drop the gloves... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 minute ago, The Frankish Reich said: You make some valid points, but your conclusion is wrong. Biden did not energize anyone (especially the Bernie Bros) to come out and vote for him. Trump certainly energized some voters -- the anti-Trump voters. That's Biden's only base and they were voting anyway. Probably already have. It doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Now that I really think of it, Trump won by a landslide. Dems are calling it a shitshow bc Biden was incredibly weak and needed Wallace to cover for him. All you crazy libs can ***** right off just like you like to tell us conservatives. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Just now, Sherlock Holmes said: Well he was getting tagteamed so he had to drop the gloves... Wallace is an embarrassment. I don't care about pressing Trump from a critical lens. Where was that with Biden and on what? When he asked Biden questions they were largely just to give him a chance to challenge Trump. He's a joke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Big Blitz said: That's Biden's only base and they were voting anyway. Probably already have. It doesn't matter. Well, on that we'll agree. In the end, like almost all debates, it likely won't move the needle at all. You could see that Trump felt like he needed to score points. He won't admit it, but he knows he's behind. Biden is playing out the clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backintheday544 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Because the only people that actually think he's racist are leftists that hate him....he became racist the minute he ran for president. Its ridiculous and if you think him denouncing them would have changed any minds or comforted people really on edge about racism in America and would suddenly stop these same people leveling these racist charges against him from doing so....lol... ....um....no. How easy is the question, do you condemn white nationalism? Any person can answer that, Yes I do condemn white nationalism. Why did Trump flub it? 3 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said: Well he was getting tagteamed so he had to drop the gloves... Watch the first.lime 510mins again. Trump came out talking over everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 minute ago, GETTOTHE50 said: Now that I really think of it, Trump won by a landslide. Dems are calling it a shitshow bc Biden was incredibly weak and needed Wallace to cover for him. All you crazy libs can ***** right off just like you like to tell us conservatives. My phone was blowing up with texts from Trump voters with "SO HYPE!!" And "GET BIDEN OUT!" And a few "throw the dam towel" memes. This was in the first 30 minutes. The only part where casual voters watched. Trump knew this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 minute ago, GETTOTHE50 said: Now that I really think of it, Trump won by a landslide. Dems are calling it a shitshow bc Biden was incredibly weak and needed Wallace to cover for him. All you crazy libs can ***** right off just like you like to tell us conservatives. If you weren't paying attention everybody here was calling it a ***** show too. 5 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Because the only people that actually think he's racist are leftists that hate him....he became racist the minute he ran for president. Its ridiculous and if you think him denouncing them would have changed any minds or comforted people really on edge about racism in America and would suddenly stop these same people leveling these racist charges against him from doing so....lol... ....um....no. He's not going to get the people on the left that's not who he needs what he needs is to seem reasonable to the people in the middle and they want him to be able to smash a meatball like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Just now, Backintheday544 said: How easy is the question, do you condemn white nationalism? Any person can answer that, Yes I do condemn white nationalism. Why did Trump flub it? I avoided the obvious conclusion for the first year or so of his presidency, but it has become abundantly clear to me since: he can't denounce them because they are his base. Without them, he loses. That's the ugly truth about America today. 1 minute ago, Big Blitz said: My phone was blowing up with texts from Trump voters with "SO HYPE!!" And "GET BIDEN OUT!" And a few "throw the dam towel" memes. This was in the first 30 minutes. The only part where casual voters watched. Trump knew this. Trump voters like Trump! That'll get you your 45% ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Yikes!!! The only people thinking that was good for Trump are his cult.... I'd imagine there's about 32 pages so far of people here singing his praises claiming this actually helped him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Backintheday544 said: Trump can be like, loom NYT you're fake news. Here's my taxes. It shuts down that point so fast. Taxes show a ton of things. I for one would love to see the foreign disclosures. It doesn't show what the left wants them to show tho. Here’s the thing though, most people, nearly all in fact, don’t understand the complexities of tax filings far less complex than the President’s. Heck, most people don’t understand a document as simple and straightforward as a 1099R. They literally have no ability to comprehend them, and so their understanding becomes whatever a hostile press tells them their understanding is. In this case they buried the fact that his tax filings conclusively reveal no troublesome financial dealings with Russia, but pushed the false notion that the President doesn’t pay taxes. There is no political upside to releasing them, since the media won’t cover them honestly anyhow. 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Just now, Warcodered said: If you weren't paying attention everybody here was calling it a ***** show too. He's not going to get the people on the left that's not who he needs what he needs is to seem reasonable to the people in the middle and they want him to be able to smash a meatball like that. I've been saying this since 2015. From the Blood coming out of Megyn Kelly's eyes or whatever he said. That was August 2015. His introduction to America in the first GOP debate. He hasn't changed. It hasn't mattered. He keeps winning. But sure tell them what to do. I think he knows exactly what he wanted to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 minute ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Here’s the thing though, most people, nearly all in fact, don’t understand the complexities of tax filings far less complex than the President’s. Heck, most people don’t understand a document as simple and straightforward as a 1099R. They literally have no ability to comprehend them, and so their understanding becomes whatever a hostile press tells them their understanding is. In this case they buried the fact that his tax filings conclusively reveal no troublesome financial dealings with Russia, but pushed the false notion that the President doesn’t pay taxes. There is no political upside to releasing them, since the media won’t cover them honestly anyhow. Now there's a stretch. @Backintheday, would you expect to see that level of granularity in these filings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Wallace is an embarrassment. I don't care about pressing Trump from a critical lens. Where was that with Biden and on what? When he asked Biden questions they were largely just to give him a chance to challenge Trump. He's a joke. He might as well of had his hand up Biden's ass because he was his puppet master... Softballs to Biden Attacking Trump Rescuing Biden when he had a fork in him Talking over Trump every time he began answering Actually debating Trump like he was his opponent Allowing Biden to retort everything but never letting Trump respond 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Big Blitz said: I've been saying this since 2015. From the Blood coming out of Megyn Kelly's eyes or whatever he said. That was August 2015. His introduction to America in the first GOP debate. He hasn't changed. It hasn't mattered. He keeps winning. But sure tell them what to do. I think he knows exactly what he wanted to do. He keeps winning? He's won 1 election against a democrat barely. Everything else was the primary where firing up the base gets you in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 minute ago, The Frankish Reich said: Now there's a stretch. @Backintheday, would you expect to see that level of granularity in these filings? This was reported by the NYT, though they buried it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: I avoided the obvious conclusion for the first year or so of his presidency, but it has become abundantly clear to me since: he can't denounce them because they are his base. Without them, he loses. That's the ugly truth about America today. Trump voters like Trump! That'll get you your 45% ... I told you. He just wants the base fired up. He did that. And its 47% and that will be enough again. Unless they get enough fake ballots. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Just now, Sherlock Holmes said: He might as well of had his hand up Biden's ass because he was his puppet master... Softballs to Biden Attacking Trump Rescuing Biden when he had a fork in him Talking over Trump every time he began answering Actually debating Trump like he was his opponent Allowing Biden to retort everything but never letting Trump respond There was no bigger softball than "Do you condemn white supremacists." That's kind of like "Do you condemn running over kittens with lawnmowers?" Trump flubbed it all by himself, no help from Chris Wallace or Joe Biden. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Just now, Warcodered said: He keeps winning? He's won 1 election against a democrat barely. Everything else was the primary where firing up the base gets you in. Like Biden? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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