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23 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:


And based on that link and his safety standard for entry every damn Brazilian should be welcomed with open arms. 

 

Absolutely accurate on Brazil. If you were there and not fabulously wealthy, you'd be hoping to get out.

Since Trump's pal took over, their society has collapsed. He also said the virus was a hoax. Now, they are paying an incredibly stupid price because of the dictator.

1 minute ago, FireChans said:

What makes an election valid or invalid?  lol

 

If the votes are allowed to be cast and they are accurately counted.

 

I would have thought everyone here could answer that, but perhaps I was assigning too much credit to some.

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4 minutes ago, Kemp said:

 

He also said the virus was a hoax.

 


Still repeating that lie. 
 

 

So we aren’t going with the nonsensical “ if he doesn’t leave”  bullsh*t anymore ?

 

?

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Kemp said:

 

Absolutely accurate on Brazil. If you were there and not fabulously wealthy, you'd be hoping to get out.

Since Trump's pal took over, their society has collapsed. He also said the virus was a hoax. Now, they are paying an incredibly stupid price because of the dictator.

 

If the votes are allowed to be cast and they are accurately counted.

 

I would have thought everyone here could answer that, but perhaps I was assigning too much credit to some.

 

...they actually used Democratic voter registration rolls for the mailing list......uh oh......

Feds sent nearly $1.4 billion in stimulus money to dead people, report finds

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1 minute ago, B-Man said:


Still repeating that lie. 
 

 

So we aren’t going with the nonsensical “ if he doesn’t leave”  bullsh*t anymore ?

 

?

 

 

 

The original post stands as is. If someone wants to change the topic, I can't stop them.

 

 

 

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If  Trump loses, he can occupy the White House for about a week after Biden's inauguration.  During that time the DNC will have Biden stashed in a Motel 6 somewhere working to convince him he can't live at home any more as he's been elected to an important office in Washington, DC

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5 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...they actually used Democratic voter registration rolls for the mailing list......uh oh......

Feds sent nearly $1.4 billion in stimulus money to dead people, report finds

 

Yeah, the government that is run by Donald Trump screwed up. Nice job, Donnie.

1 minute ago, bilzfancy said:

He and Elvis are good friends and both are banging Marilyn Monroe

 

Hey, finally a verifiable fact.

Any of you Qanon supporters?

 

I know it's a belief held by some Trumpers, as evidenced by the displays at his rallies. One poster I know of is a fan.

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28 minutes ago, Kemp said:

 

Absolutely accurate on Brazil. If you were there and not fabulously wealthy, you'd be hoping to get out.

Since Trump's pal took over, their society has collapsed. He also said the virus was a hoax. Now, they are paying an incredibly stupid price because of the dictator.

 

If the votes are allowed to be cast and they are accurately counted.

 

I would have thought everyone here could answer that, but perhaps I was assigning too much credit to some.

Funnily enough, you made no mention of the veracity of the votes themselves. Apparently you don’t consider that necessary to valid election.

 

Let me ask you this. What if the election really was rigged? If you knew for a fact, that the election results were fraudulent. What would you think is fair? The candidate who lost a rigged election to lose? The candidate who won a rigged election deserves the victory?

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51 minutes ago, Kemp said:

 

See. You can read.

 

I've given you folks a few chances to answer the ship question.

 

You've shown yourself to be honest. What's your opinion on it?.

 


Yes I’ve given you my opinion on it. There are safer places for them to go than here in the US. So give me your opinion of the fact that I have blown your argument out of the water. 
 

I’ve not addressed your ship question because I did  see it. 

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3 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Funnily enough, you made no mention of the veracity of the votes themselves. Apparently you don’t consider that necessary to valid election.

 

Let me ask you this. What if the election really was rigged? If you knew for a fact, that the election results were fraudulent. What would you think is fair? The candidate who lost a rigged election to lose? The candidate who won a rigged election deserves the victory?

 

The same questions I had when it was revealed that some voting machines were hacked in 2016.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/09/22/wisconsin-one-20-states-targeted-russian-hacking-elections-systems-2016/694719001/

We can be pretty certain that if those votes were inaccurate because of other countries breaking into the machines and it tipped the scales to Trump, we would have never been told because of the craziness that would have ensued. 

 

We know that Putin wants Trump in office, so it's a pretty fair bet that attempts will be made again in November.

 

Congress allocated 425 million to prevent attacks last year.

By April of this year, a full 13 months after last year's funding was allocated, just 29 percent of the money had been spent according to congressional testimony by the Election Assistance Commission, the federal entity tasked with doling out the grants.

I wonder why the federal government refused to allocate the money? It's a real mystery, eh?
 

17 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Funnily enough, you made no mention of the veracity of the votes themselves. Apparently you don’t consider that necessary to valid election.

 

Let me ask you this. What if the election really was rigged? If you knew for a fact, that the election results were fraudulent. What would you think is fair? The candidate who lost a rigged election to lose? The candidate who won a rigged election deserves the victory?

 

You are 100 per cent right. I omitted the veracity of the votes. 

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45 minutes ago, Kemp said:


Absolutely accurate on Brazil. If you were there and not fabulously wealthy, you'd be hoping to get out.


Hope is not a strategy.  My strategy would be 

 

1.  Try to become affluent 

2.  Fix the problem

3.  Emigrate through legal means. 
 

We won the uterine lottery. Be thankful. 

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1 minute ago, Kemp said:

 

Yeah, the government that is run by Donald Trump screwed up. Nice job, Donnie.

 

Does he actually address the envelopes...?  I thought he only licked the envelopes closed.

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10 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:


Yes I’ve given you my opinion on it. There are safer places for them to go than here in the US. So give me your opinion of the fact that I have blown your argument out of the water. 
 

I’ve not addressed your ship question because I did  see it. 

 

Which argument did you blow out of the water?

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1 minute ago, Kemp said:

 

Which argument did you blow out of the water?

Do you think the people leaving a poor, socialist country want to come to the United States if you turn it into another poor, socialist country? Why wouldn't they stay if that were the case?

I would love to see a poll asking immigrants if they want to come here if we turn into a socialist, marxist country. I'd bet they say no.

 

Your strawman argument doesn't hold water. 

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7 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:


Hope is not a strategy.  My strategy would be 

 

1.  Try to become affluent 

2.  Fix the problem

3.  Emigrate through legal means. 
 

We won the uterine lottery. Be thankful. 

 

I am thankful that my parents came here.

 

Trying to become affluent is a strategy that fails 99% of the time. Just the way it is. Being affluent is a good thing no matter which country you're in.

 

A nice chunk of the very affluent came by their wealth by less than strictly honest terms, so you have a better shot at affluence when you circumvent laws. Kennedy and Bush families are great examples of this. Donald has done his fair share, too, but not on the same magnitude. 

9 minutes ago, Keukasmallies said:

 

Does he actually address the envelopes...?  I thought he only licked the envelopes closed.

 

Not sure if the porn star mentioned licking.

2 minutes ago, westside2 said:

Do you think the people leaving a poor, socialist country want to come to the United States if you turn it into another poor, socialist country? Why wouldn't they stay if that were the case?

I would love to see a poll asking immigrants if they want to come here if we turn into a socialist, marxist country. I'd bet they say no.

 

Your strawman argument doesn't hold water. 

 

Good one!

 

You constructed a strawman argument and then complained about strawman arguments.

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10 minutes ago, Kemp said:

 

Which argument did you blow out of the water?


That people should be allowed to come here due to safety concerns in their home country. So are you saying all Mexicans and Central Americans are rapists, murders and criminals?  Please tell us that is not your implication. 

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