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15 hours ago, gobills404 said:

I have watched it which is how I came up with those opinions, I'd just genuinely like to know what you didn't like about it so I can get a different opinion on him. Are you actually give an explanation or just take more lazy cheapshots at my assessment of him?

That wasn't a shot at you at all, I don't do that. Like my opinion is better than anyone else's, which it isn't. That said, my problems with him is that I don't see him chasing back side often enough, trying to get himself back in the play. If he's not strictly rushing the passer or if the play isn't coming his way, too many times I've seen him standing around watching the play. I don't think that would sit well with McFrazier. I'm not saying he does it all the time, just to much. Which speaks of his hustle and work ethic. Honestly how many times have you seen a player hustling to get back in the play cause a fumble or recover one by playing with their hair on fire to get back in the play. The bills play total defense to the ball and they expect that from one another they don't stop running until the whistle blows. Sure I've seen him get back in the play when the play is coming to his side but that just won't cut it. He just gives me the feeling that is he's not the center of attention, why bother. Plus he's a little flabby in the midsection. I just rewatched the Florida state and Washington games. He whiffed on a sack and missed 2 tackles against Florida. He's a jogger, ladeeda I'm going towards the play, oh they got it, I think I'll just bounce up and down. I'm not saying his tape is all bad. If he turned flab into muscle and turned up his intensity and worked hard every play. He could turn into a player. I'd take a flier on him late in the 5th or 6th, but no way in the second, he's a project. Here's the thing with getting players, no matter what round you get them they must have the attitude of being the best at what they do, whatever it takes. 

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Fanspeak using Josh Edwards CBS Draft Board:

 

22: R1P22
 WR HENRY RUGGS III
ALABAMA
 
54: R2P22
 OT MATT PEART
UCONN
 
86: R3P22
 ANTOINE WINFIELD JR.
MINNESOTA
 
125: R4P22 
WR CHASE CLAYPOOL
NOTRE DAME
 
155: R5P9 
LB JORDYN BROOKS
TEXAS TECH
 
167: R5P21 
EDGE KHALID KAREEM
NOTRE DAME
 
188: R6P9 
G COHL CABRAL
ARIZONA STATE
 
201: R6P22 
TE THADDEUS MOSS
LSU
 
207: R6P28 
RB A.J. DILLON
BOSTON COLLEGE
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Behold, a perfect Mock Draft. My only issue with this is that I took Throckmorton with my second fifth, assuming Justin Strnad would be there in the 6th. I would switch that if I could. 

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Latest from draft network

 

22. Yetur Gross-Matos, EDGE

54 Denzel Mims, WR

86 Alex Highsmith, EDGE

118 Collin Johnson, WR

137 Ezra Cleveland, OT

149 Michael Onwenu, IOL

168 Justin Strnad, LB

181 A.J. Dillon, RB

187 Levonta Taylor, CB

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Fanspeak w/ Steve info.

 

22:  R1P22   CB TREVON DIGGS  ALABAMA

54:  R2P22   DL NEVILLE GALLIMORE  OKLAHOMA

86:  R3P22   WR DENZEL MIMS   BAYLOR

125:  R4P22   WR K.J. HILL   OHIO STATE

155:  R5P9   LB JACOB PHILLIPS   LSU

167:  R5P21   RB ZACK MOSS   UTAH

188:  R6P9   TE JAKE BREELAND   OREGON

201:  R6P22   EDGE CHAUNCEY RIVERS   MISSISSIPPI STATE

207:  R6P28   RB AJ DILLON   BOSTON COLLEGE

 

I would say so-so for this draft.  WR's were down to Higgins, so I passed.  2nd round WR's weren't good enough either, IMO.

 

So went 3rd and 4th WR, which I think are serviceable.  Got 2 RBs for the Herd!

 

We should start calling our RB's "The Herd!". :)

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On 2/9/2020 at 9:14 PM, NewEra said:

Agreed.  Not gonna happen though 

 

edit:  I may have said the same thing about Ed Oliver last year 

 

Oliver falling to 9 was a lot more possible than Lamb falling all the way to 22 though.  With QBs going in first 8 picks, guys always fall a few spots.

 

But a top ten talent falling to 22 is possible but a lot less likely.   

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22: R1P22
 
EDGE A.J. EPENESA
IOWA
54: R2P22
 
RB D'ANDRE SWIFT
GEORGIA
86: R3P22
 
TE HARRISON BRYANT
FLORIDA ATLANTIC
125: R4P22
 
WR TYLER JOHNSON
MINNESOTA
155: R5P9
 
TE THADDEUS MOSS
LSU
167: R5P21
 
LB SHAQUILLE QUARTERMAN
MIAMI
188: R6P9
 
CB LAVERT HILL
MICHIGAN
201: R6P22
 
LB KEANDRE JONES
MARYLAND
207: R6P28
 
RB AJ DILLON
BOSTON COLLEGE
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On 2/17/2020 at 12:07 PM, ScorpionZero said:

That wasn't a shot at you at all, I don't do that. Like my opinion is better than anyone else's, which it isn't. That said, my problems with him is that I don't see him chasing back side often enough, trying to get himself back in the play. If he's not strictly rushing the passer or if the play isn't coming his way, too many times I've seen him standing around watching the play. I don't think that would sit well with McFrazier. I'm not saying he does it all the time, just to much. Which speaks of his hustle and work ethic. Honestly how many times have you seen a player hustling to get back in the play cause a fumble or recover one by playing with their hair on fire to get back in the play. The bills play total defense to the ball and they expect that from one another they don't stop running until the whistle blows. Sure I've seen him get back in the play when the play is coming to his side but that just won't cut it. He just gives me the feeling that is he's not the center of attention, why bother. Plus he's a little flabby in the midsection. I just rewatched the Florida state and Washington games. He whiffed on a sack and missed 2 tackles against Florida. He's a jogger, ladeeda I'm going towards the play, oh they got it, I think I'll just bounce up and down. I'm not saying his tape is all bad. If he turned flab into muscle and turned up his intensity and worked hard every play. He could turn into a player. I'd take a flier on him late in the 5th or 6th, but no way in the second, he's a project. Here's the thing with getting players, no matter what round you get them they must have the attitude of being the best at what they do, whatever it takes. 

Why did I bother answering you if your not gonna respond. I rewatched film for you, what's up with that. Maybe you can make me rethink my opinion of him. 

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Fanspeak, Jake list

 

1st, Ruggs and Chaisson was available

2nd, WR's left were farther down the list, so waited

3rd, ranked 76 at 86.

4th, ranked 115 at 125.

5th, WR ANTONIO GANDY-GOLDEN went right before my pick, which is who I wanted here.

5th, OT JACK DRISCOLL went 2 picks earlier, which is who I wanted here.

 

22: R1P22   DL JAVON KINLAW    SOUTH CAROLINA

54: R2P22   CB DAMON ARNETTE   OHIO STATE

86: R3P22   WR JALEN REAGOR    TCU

125: R4P22   RB ZACK MOSS   UTAH

155: R5P9   WR TYLER JOHNSON   MINNESOTA

167: R5P21   LB JORDYN BROOKS   TEXAS TECH

188: R6P9   EDGE CHAUNCEY RIVERS   MISSISSIPPI STATE

201: R6P22   WR JAMES PROCHE   SMU

207: R6P28   G MICHAEL ONWENU   MICHIGAN

 

If you can get Kinlaw at 22, you have to take him don't ya???

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Fanspeak, with all its general presets: 

 

1: R1P22
 
EDGE YETUR GROSS-MATOS
PENN STATE
2: R2P22
 
WR BRANDON AIYUK
ARIZONA STATE
3: R3P22
 
CB CAMERON DANTZLER
MISSISSIPPI STATE
4: R4P22
 
WR BRYAN EDWARDS
SOUTH CAROLINA
5: R5P9
 
LB SHAQUILLE QUARTERMAN
MIAMI
6: R5P21
 
OT JACK DRISCOLL
AUBURN
7: R6P9
 
RB AJ DILLON
BOSTON COLLEGE
8: R6P22
 
S PATRICK NELSON
SMU
9: R6P28
 
EDGE TREVON HILL
MIAMI
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6 hours ago, hjnick said:

Fanspeak, Jake list

 

1st, Ruggs and Chaisson was available

2nd, WR's left were farther down the list, so waited

3rd, ranked 76 at 86.

4th, ranked 115 at 125.

5th, WR ANTONIO GANDY-GOLDEN went right before my pick, which is who I wanted here.

5th, OT JACK DRISCOLL went 2 picks earlier, which is who I wanted here.

 

22: R1P22   DL JAVON KINLAW    SOUTH CAROLINA

 

54: R2P22   CB DAMON ARNETTE   OHIO STATE

 

86: R3P22   WR JALEN REAGOR    TCU

 

125: R4P22   RB ZACK MOSS   UTAH

 

155: R5P9   WR TYLER JOHNSON   MINNESOTA

 

167: R5P21   LB JORDYN BROOKS   TEXAS TECH

 

188: R6P9   EDGE CHAUNCEY RIVERS   MISSISSIPPI STATE

 

201: R6P22   WR JAMES PROCHE   SMU

 

207: R6P28   G MICHAEL ONWENU   MICHIGAN

 

If you can get Kinlaw at 22, you have to take him don't ya???

I agree with kinlaw, bpa. But love Johnson in the 5th, he's a player. 

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This one is from walk the mock

PickPlayerPosCollege

 

1:22 Tristan Wirfs OTIowa

2:22 Zack Baun LBWisconsin

3:22 Bryan Edwards WRSouth Carolina

4:22 Harrison Bryant TEFlorida Atlantic

5:9 A.J. Dillon RBBoston College

5:21 Alex Highsmith EDGECharlotte

6:9 DeMarkus Acy CBMissouri

6:22 Joe Bachie LBMichigan State

6:28 Juwan Johnson WROregon

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Newest NFL.com mock has us taking a C/G in the first round.  Wut?  Dude says our guard play wasn't good but doesn't realize the plan is to improve two positions with one new player by kicking Ford inside to guard and get a new RT.

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