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12 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

Well into 2022...

 

 

Joe Biden Revises Promise: Enough Vaccines for 300 Million Americans by Early Fall

 

President Joe Biden clarified Tuesday that he expected the delivery of enough vaccine doses for 300 million Americans by early fall.

 

On Monday, Biden told a reporter that enough vaccines would be available for every American who wanted one in the spring.

 

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/01/26/joe-biden-revises-promise-enough-vaccines-for-300-million-americans-by-early-fall/

 

 

Can they just tell us please that mitigation distancing and all that means is indefinite. 

 

I can't take the looks on my kids faces anymore as I had to tell them AGAIN that we are still full virtual into March.  The Unions here are saying now the vaccine isn't enough.....the metrics are to high and its still in the community.  The teachers don't feel safe.  

 

School year is over.  That's it.  1 and 1/2 year of education gone.  And it's going to be the same ***t in September.  If you still don't understand this I want to know what you're smoking.   

Yes, and it's a shame.  It really sucks.  It is the fault of selfish people.  I live in rural PA and we've been in and out of school all year based on case loads.  I just had to tell my son, a junior and the starting PG on the varsity basketball team that he is quarantined for two weeks.  We lost three varsity starters and two juniors this week from a squad that should be running it.  I also had to tell his friend who just got back from a 14 day quarantine that he is gone again too.  The virus will do what the virus will do but people not following SIMPLE mitigation efforts are wrecking the school experience for our kids.  The grass isn't always greener.  Going back to school in this mess puts a whole new set of factors into play. 

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4 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

Why didn't Trump just order enough vaccines to begin with?

 

And why did he leave Biden with no execution plan?

 

 

 

 

I mean Joe had a plan you voted for....

 

 

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4 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

Why didn't Trump just order enough vaccines to begin with?

 

 

He did.  Where is anyone saying they did not?  

 

Why did Amazon wait till Jan 21st to help distribute?

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

He did.  Where is anyone saying they did not?  

 

Why did Amazon wait till Jan 21st to help distribute?

 

 

 

How many did Trump order?  

 

I'm not Jeff Bezos - reach out to him.

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45 minutes ago, LDD said:

Yes, and it's a shame.  It really sucks.  It is the fault of selfish people.  I live in rural PA and we've been in and out of school all year based on case loads.  I just had to tell my son, a junior and the starting PG on the varsity basketball team that he is quarantined for two weeks.  We lost three varsity starters and two juniors this week from a squad that should be running it.  I also had to tell his friend who just got back from a 14 day quarantine that he is gone again too.  The virus will do what the virus will do but people not following SIMPLE mitigation efforts are wrecking the school experience for our kids.  The grass isn't always greener.  Going back to school in this mess puts a whole new set of factors into play. 

Being accepting of this new norm is crazy.  Why didn't we respond this way to Polio?  Were we all selfish back in the mid 1900s?

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2 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

I'd like to hear from them.  Looking at the school thing from a different perspective.  I've worked for a lot of years with teachers and they've been programmed to accept that they're going to get a virus/flu as a 1,000 kids in a building will spread virus rapidly each winter.  All new teachers will catch it within their first couple of years until they build up immunity.  So teachers have become conditioned to accept the fact that they're at higher risk than most for catching whatever bug is going around each winter.  However, with Covid being a more deadly virus for many teachers who fall in the "at risk" range I can understand why they're so hesitant to go back and the unions are fighting for them.  It's entrenched in their mind that schools are a virus petri dish and their likelihood of catching it is high.  Kids being less likely to catch it and spread isn't common knowledge unfortunately.  The unions will keep fighting until the kids and teachers are vaccinated unfortunately.  

 

I get that people come here to vent and many bring up good points about whether government is doing too much or not enough.  They're also looking for someone to blame for this disruption in our way of life and politicians are easy targets (both at a local and federal level).  My thinking is just do the best you can and focus on convincing as many people as you can to get the vaccine ASAP if it's available to you.  It's our only way out of this. 

 

Actually, I don't think this is correct.  Edit:  Young children seem less likely to catch it but this does not apply to older kids.  Kids are much less likely to experience symptoms, especially severe, but can still contract and spread the virus is my understanding.  Subtle but big difference, especially as many kids know Covid won't have any serious direct effect on them.

 

Also, CDC is saying schools can be open with precautions:  https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2021/01/27/covid-schools-cdc-reports-how-classes-can-safe-prevent-spread/4278356001/

 

I know my local schools have done a good job with it and looking at their data there have been no significant outbreaks when the schools are open.

 

I most certainly agree that the vaccine is the only way out.

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1 hour ago, GaryPinC said:

 

Actually, I don't think this is correct.  Edit:  Young children seem less likely to catch it but this does not apply to older kids.  Kids are much less likely to experience symptoms, especially severe, but can still contract and spread the virus is my understanding.  Subtle but big difference, especially as many kids know Covid won't have any serious direct effect on them.

 

Also, CDC is saying schools can be open with precautions:  https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2021/01/27/covid-schools-cdc-reports-how-classes-can-safe-prevent-spread/4278356001/

 

I know my local schools have done a good job with it and looking at their data there have been no significant outbreaks when the schools are open.

 

I most certainly agree that the vaccine is the only way out.

They did a study in Iceland where it showed kids under 15 were only about half as likely to contract it and spread it.  Basically the exact opposite of common cold and flu strands where they spread it like wildfire.  Here's a snippet from the study....

 

National Geographic was given exclusive access to the results from an Icelandic study that provides definitive evidence of how much children contribute to coronavirus spread. Researchers with the nation’s Directorate of Health and deCODE genetics, a human-genomics company in Reykjavik, monitored every adult and child in the country who was quarantined after potentially being exposed this spring, using contact tracing and genetic sequencing to trace links between various outbreak clusters. This 40,000-person study found that children under 15 were about half as likely as adults to be infected, and only half as likely as adults to transmit the virus to others. Almost all the coronavirus transmissions to children came from adults.

 

 

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Just read the "disclaimers" on the vaccine a relative of mine sent me when they got the shot they don't need.  

 

They basically say "we don't know if this works.  You still could carry and thus spread the virus.  It may just lesson severity.  Good luck."

 

 

YEARS.  Mitigating well beyond 2022.  Hybrid and virtual schools.  Distancing (absurd).  Masks (do jack ***t).  And limited capacity everything if anything.  Because you let them.  

 

Someone explain to me how they think it will be any different then that in the next 12 months and why.  

 

 

My 7 year year old will be going on 10 when maybe more than 1 member of the family can see her indoor sporting events.  

 

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17 hours ago, BeerLeagueHockey said:

Being accepting of this new norm is crazy.  Why didn't we respond this way to Polio?  Were we all selfish back in the mid 1900s?

You can't have everything.  If you don't make a sacrifice in one area, you lose something else.  Kids are taking it on the chin and selfish adults DGAF.  But, whatever.  We get what we deserve I suppose. 

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Additionally...I never understood why this pandemic was framed as anything other than a public health crisis that we all needed to solve together.
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From my Congressman...more FAQs:

 

If I have been vaccinated, do I have to continue the other recommended COVID-19 precautions (e.g., wearing a mask, staying 6 feet apart from others, avoiding indoor crowds, washing hands often)?

 


Yes. Currently, there is limited information on how well the COVID-19 vaccine can reduce the spread of COVID-19 and how long a person's protection lasts. If you received the first dose of the COVID-19 vaccine or you received both doses, you should continue to follow prevention measures to protect yourself and others. This means wearing a mask, staying at least 6 feet away from others, avoiding crowds (especially in indoor places), and washing your hands often.

 

 

 

 

 

"And Congressman, how long do you anticipate us keeping up with these soul and mental health crushing measures?  What is the endgame since you want to inject us with an experimental vaccine?"

 

Thanks.

 

 

Signed, 

 

Absolutely no one in the media or the public that thinks bc of vaccine we'll be "back to normal" by .......?  I mean do they even know/care?

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12 hours ago, LDD said:

You can't have everything.  If you don't make a sacrifice in one area, you lose something else.  Kids are taking it on the chin and selfish adults DGAF.  But, whatever.  We get what we deserve I suppose. 

Ain’t no collectively solving this one. We’re fuct for life. Masks, life.  Distancing, always.  Kids, ***** off.  Go learn on your own.  Sports? Concerts? Only for the uber rich from here on out.  J&J shot? Whoopty frickin do. The metrics will be the same next winter.

 

When you tards wake up, don’t come crying to me.

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30 minutes ago, BeerLeagueHockey said:

Ain’t no collectively solving this one. We’re fuct for life. Masks, life.  Distancing, always.  Kids, ***** off.  Go learn on your own.  Sports? Concerts? Only for the uber rich from here on out.  J&J shot? Whoopty frickin do. The metrics will be the same next winter.

 

When you tards wake up, don’t come crying to me.

That's funny as *****.

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On 1/27/2021 at 3:52 AM, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

I think it’s simply a reflection of a full year plus of restrictions for some but not for all, a reliance on the science mandated for some but not all, government fingers in the pie destroying some businesses and not others, and a recognition that the absolute safest place to be during this virus is to be In the employ of those pulling the lockdown strings.  Everyone else must fend for themselves. 
 

From a leadership perspective, a good start would be for Biden to implore teachers unions to do the right thing by the children and communities they serve to get the children back in school.   Or, appeal directly to the teachers to bypass the unions and show up to the classroom.  There are many, many teachers who believe it’s past time to do so, but are likely fearful of going against the grain. 
 

It’s difficult to be positive when your back is against the wall, your children are suffering and govt is dicking around.

 

I think you overestimate what schools would be like "if only teachers were willing."

 

I teach at a relatively large High School of about 2,000 students. All parents and students have an "opt-out" policy of in person learning. That means that any student must be allowed to learn fully virtually from home. I don't know if you disapprove of allowing this concession, but during a Pandemic, I think most would agree it's reasonable.

 

There are about 800 students who are 100% virtual at our school right now. And I live in the least affected state in our country as far as the Pandemic is concerned.

 

Parents in our country don't want to send their kids back to school during a Pandemic if they don't have to... and over the last year that term "have to" has been malleable in our country.

 

Pinning all or most of this on teachers is farcical and "getting students back into the classroom" isn't remotely :lol: what you think it is.

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11 hours ago, BeerLeagueHockey said:

Ain’t no collectively solving this one. We’re fuct for life. Masks, life.  Distancing, always.  Kids, ***** off.  Go learn on your own.  Sports? Concerts? Only for the uber rich from here on out.  J&J shot? Whoopty frickin do. The metrics will be the same next winter.

 

When you tards wake up, don’t come crying to me.

Sounds like you are for sure.  I had it because the little bastids give it ta me.  I'm immune for a bit now.  Got a shot comin.  I plan on livin.  I will look you up the next time I need a dire crystal ball prediction from a crank.  This board is good for that. 

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23 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

Another 4,000 Americans up on the Biden Virus tote board yesterday. Nice plan Joe! How many pages is it again? 

It is unrealistic to think a new administration on day 9 can change things dramatically in that time frame.  But you know that, don't you?

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