The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19

[Magox]

This just goes back to the argument that was posed months ago that many of the people who are dying of COVID-19 were literally in their last months, weeks if not days.   Palm beach’s deaths averaged 77 years old with 3 comorbidities.

 

Read the article, it’s fascinating.

 

 

 

Also hospital trends looking better in Florida.

 

And check this out. 
 

 

 

The lines are empty. It’s anecdotal but it jives with the lower test positivity rate they are seeing.  Very likely that Miami has hit around 20% COVID-19 antibody infections.  I would imagine Miami will begin to trend down nicely in many stats across the board.

[SoCal Deek]

24 minutes ago, Magox said:

This just goes back to the argument that was posed months ago that many of the people who are dying of COVID-19 were literally in their last months, weeks if not days.   Palm beach’s deaths averaged 77 years old with 3 comorbidities.

 

Read the article, it’s fascinating.

 

 

 

Also hospital trends looking better in Florida.

 

And check this out. 
 

 

 

The lines are empty. It’s anecdotal but it jives with the lower test positivity rate they are seeing.  Very likely that Miami has hit around 20% COVID-19 antibody infections.  I would imagine Miami will begin to trend down nicely in many stats across the board.

Those pictures are EXACTLY what testing centers look like in Southern California! Neither testing center that I visited last week had any line whatsoever for a test, and my appointment was made that same day or the night before. 

[123719bwiqrb]

3 hours ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said:

 

More people enter NYS through airports than by car.

 

Also a majority of those entering via bridge and tunnel are from CT and NJ - two states that have huddled with NY in response to the virus.

 

Genius.

 

I'm going to need to see your numbers, sir.  That doesn't make sense to me...

[GG]

Congratulations grave dancers, you're getting your wishes.  When will enough be enough?

 

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Virus-linked hunger tied to 10,000 child deaths each month

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All around the world, the coronavirus and its restrictions are pushing already hungry communities over the edge, cutting off meager farms from markets and isolating villages from food and medical aid. Virus-linked hunger is leading to the deaths of 10,000 more children a month over the first year of the pandemic, according to an urgent call to action from the United Nations shared with The Associated Press ahead of its publication in the Lancet medical journal.

Further, more than 550,000 additional children each month are being struck by what is called wasting, according to the U.N. — malnutrition that manifests in spindly limbs and distended bellies. Over a year, that’s up 6.7 million from last year’s total of 47 million. Wasting and stunting can permanently damage children physically and mentally, transforming individual tragedies into a generational catastrophe.

“The food security effects of the COVID crisis are going to reflect many years from now,” said Dr. Francesco Branca, the World Health Organization head of nutrition. “There is going to be a societal effect.”

 

 

 

[shoshin]

7 hours ago, GG said:

 

There's no celebration in pointing out that a virus does viral things.  That's why we keep hammering away at the falsehoods that you like to perpetuate. 

 

What falsehood would you like to discuss. I can’t talk to your unprovoked and bald attack unless you provide a data point to discuss. 
 

Or do you think we make progress by hurling insults at each other? Is that your idea of productive discourse and community?
 

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How much data and cases do you need to see that show how this virus spreads and using a single country analysis is useless, especially for a populous country with widely spread out population centers?    What's going to be the next scare story when AZ, CA & TX show negligible new cases in about 1-2 weeks?

 

That’s a rhetorical question. I expect it will still hit a few more population centers and then we will see what happens in the fall when schools return. Then get another possible inflection point at what the traditional flu season brings. I am hopeful we don’t see much in the way of problems and expect the media to amplify some teacher or student deaths when the happen. Seems easy to predict. Media is after eyeballs. 

Edited July 28, 2020 by shoshin

[Magox]

1 hour ago, GG said:

Congratulations grave dancers, you're getting your wishes.  When will enough be enough?

 

 

 

 

I lived in Bolivia, South America for some time and I have lots of good friends that continue to live there.  I keep up with a lot of them on Facebook and they are beginning to get hit pretty hard.  They began their lockdowns shortly after us but were largely spared during our wave.  
 

They have continued their lockdowns and the situation is getting dire. Not so much because of the direct effects of COVID-19 but because of the lockdowns.  Businesses are getting crushed, people are not making money. The government doesn’t have the resources of other developed nations to provide meaningful stimulus.  
 

People who like here who were once very pro lockdown are beginning to change their tunes.  
 

The reactions from governments world wide will have a far greater impact than the direct effects of COVID-19 and much longer lasting.  I wrote a thread on this back in late March making this exact same point.   
 

The virus will squarely be in our rear view mirror 6-9 months from now.  The reactions by governments across the world won’t be.  Countries like Bolivia where I happen to have a dual citizenship in, a country that I care for deeply won’t recover to pre coronavirus for probably at least 5-8 years.   Just imagine the ongoing deaths because of this.   
 

Deleterious COVID-19 related deaths by the time this all said and done will be at least a factor of 3.

 

And the average death won’t be aged 80 with 2 comorbidities.  Many of those deaths will be children.

Edited July 28, 2020 by Magox

[Chef Jim]

39 minutes ago, GG said:

Congratulations grave dancers, you're getting your wishes.  When will enough be enough?

 

 

 

 

WORST

PANDEMIC

EVER!!!

 

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This is why I get so pissed at politicians when they say “x number of children go to bed hungry every night in America!”  ***** you!  This country doesn’t know hunger. 

[RiotAct]

5 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

a little Biden-esque there in the last clip... lol.

[BillStime]

Just another GOP loser. No longer the popular thing to do now that Trump says it’s patriotic to wear a mask (only took 150,000 American lives for Trump to care).

 

 

[Big Blitz]

Warning:  Your IQ is certain to drop upon reading this.  Reading the responses may actually leave you brain dead.  Like the authors of this crap:

 

 

 

[Buffalo_Gal]

Must not disrupt the narrative (I watched a little of it live, it was interesting):
 

 

 

 

 

 

[shoshin]

9 hours ago, GG said:

Congratulations grave dancers, you're getting your wishes.  When will enough be enough?

 

 

 

 

That's a huge and sad number. I wonder how they arrived at that but it's not a surprise that there's a downstream effect. What we can bear as Americans is a lot more than other countries. The economic/societal links and dependencies from Bill Gates to a family in Africa have never been as strong as they are now. 

[Kemp]

[shoshin]

10 hours ago, Magox said:

 

I lived in Bolivia, South America for some time and I have lots of good friends that continue to live there.  I keep up with a lot of them on Facebook and they are beginning to get hit pretty hard.  They began their lockdowns shortly after us but were largely spared during our wave.  
 

They have continued their lockdowns and the situation is getting dire. Not so much because of the direct effects of COVID-19 but because of the lockdowns.  Businesses are getting crushed, people are not making money. The government doesn’t have the resources of other developed nations to provide meaningful stimulus.  
 

People who like here who were once very pro lockdown are beginning to change their tunes.  
 

The reactions from governments world wide will have a far greater impact than the direct effects of COVID-19 and much longer lasting.  I wrote a thread on this back in late March making this exact same point.   
 

The virus will squarely be in our rear view mirror 6-9 months from now.  The reactions by governments across the world won’t be.  Countries like Bolivia where I happen to have a dual citizenship in, a country that I care for deeply won’t recover to pre coronavirus for probably at least 5-8 years.   Just imagine the ongoing deaths because of this.   
 

Deleterious COVID-19 related deaths by the time this all said and done will be at least a factor of 3.

 

And the average death won’t be aged 80 with 2 comorbidities.  Many of those deaths will be children.

 

Absolutely--the ignorance people have about the economic impact of shutdowns (not just on resources, but mental health) is surprising. In the US, I have an extremely bright friend who is more or less refusing to leave the house. I sent him a photo a few days ago of a dinner I was having in a place that holds meaning (not a restaurant, but place doesn't matter). His first response: "I'm uncomfortable with the lack of social distancing." I was with my brother and parents in the photo. He's privileged enough that he can work from home but he somehow thinks it's OK to stay there until a vaccine comes. He's a lifelong Republican (anti-Trump though) so he's against social nets and government intervention--he's just generally afraid of the virus. 

 

I know we will all come out of the "fear-zone" around the virus at different rates but here is a guy who's for sure suffering by absence of his normal human interaction. One anecdote isn't data but the data is starting to come now too. 

 

Whether it's mental health or economic pain, we've never been more linked in the world. We rise together, we suffer together. It's heartening but it requires more compassion.

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/lonely-girls-how-the-pandemic-has-deepened-the-isolation-of-adolescents-11595937600?mod=hp_lead_pos10

 

Behind a paywall but:

 

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As alone as Emerson feels, she has quite a bit of company. A recent nationwide study found that 78% of fifth- through eight-grade girls feel more lonely and isolated since the pandemic began. The same is true of older teens.

 

The study, conducted in May by the Rox Institute for Research & Training, the research arm of Ruling Our eXperiences, a nonprofit focused on girls, also found that of the younger girls in that study—ages 10 to 14—a third are spending four or more hours a day on social media, primarily on TikTok, Snapchat and Instagram.

 

 

Edited July 28, 2020 by shoshin

[Kemp]

17 hours ago, KD in CA said:

 

Just curious....do you think the media campaign designed to flip Florida will be able to keep the scare tactics going for another 3+ months?

 

No need.

 

DeSantis did all the work by himself.

[Kemp]

Trump Administration Plants 137,000 Corpses In Fauci’s Bed To Frame Him For Coronavirus Deaths


https://www.theonion.com/trump-administration-plants-137-000-corpses-in-fauci-s-1844367647

[BuffaloHokie13]

38 minutes ago, Kemp said:

Trump Administration Plants 137,000 Corpses In Fauci’s Bed To Frame Him For Coronavirus Deaths


https://www.theonion.com/trump-administration-plants-137-000-corpses-in-fauci-s-1844367647

The Onion? Really? Please tell me this is a joke post. Also, why would you pollute a legitimate thread with satire?

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

13 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

The Onion? Really? Please tell me this is a joke post. Also, why would you pollute a legitimate thread with satire?

 

What thread here isn't polluted with outright bias?

 

Democrats / Liberals are championing Antifia, they are promoting violence against the MIB.  etc etc 

 

Democrats / Liberals are clueless Morons and Idiots.   

 

Yes,  there are posts with the reverse.   I'm just using the ones directed at me because I don't drink 

 

 

[BuffaloHokie13]

3 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

 

What thread here isn't polluted with outright bias?

 

Democrats / Liberals are championing Antifia, they are promoting violence against the MIB.  etc etc 

 

Democrats / Liberals are clueless Morons and Idiots.   

 

Yes,  there are posts with the reverse.   I'm just using the ones directed at me because I don't drink 

You do understand the difference between bias, opinion, and satire, right? Yes, people post the Babylon Bee. They tend to keep it to Greg's stashes and the thread dedicated to bee pieces.

[Magox]

3 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Must not disrupt the narrative (I watched a little of it live, it was interesting):
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's quite amazing how they are censoring content.  The video went massively viral, I saw it everywhere.  Not just on twitter but lots of people I knew on FB posting it.   

 

This is not a conclusive matter, it's still up for debate yet they shut it down.   For me one of the biggest threats to our democracy right now are the thought control mechanisms from Big Tech.   They have to be regulated.  It is imperative that this happens.