BillStime Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Personally I’m a little tired hearing about South Korea. Vietnam, à much poorer nation has zero deaths. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, meazza said: Personally I’m a little tired hearing about South Korea. Vietnam, à much poorer nation has zero deaths. Heat and humidity Edited April 28, 2020 by MILFHUNTER#518 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said: Do all you lawyers take a class on how to deflect? I certainly wasn't copying you, I was correcting you. Update on the conference call. Based on your admission this morning that you have tiny baby hands, and based on certain deficiencies associated therewith, there was a desire to place you on a newly-created “ ‘Short’ list.” There also was a desire to get you to change your screen name to something less fake or “hoaxy” and potentially more accurate, such as “Third and Short” or “Third and a Couple of Inches.” I fought against the changes, and was able to get them to compromise. Basically, if you change your avatar to something more accurate, they’ll let you keep your “hoaxy” screen name and will not place you on the “ ‘Short’ list.” This is the avatar that was suggested: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 1 minute ago, meazza said: Personally I’m a little tired hearing about South Korea. Vietnam, à much poorer nation has zero deaths. Between that, India's 939 deaths, and China's data, I'm not sure what to believe less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 1 minute ago, MILFHUNTER#518 said: Heat and humidity They also are a society that looks after their elderly . Once this is all said and done, we will all have to look into the mirror into how as a society, we treat our elderly. Just now, shoshin said: Between that, India's 939 deaths, and China's data, I'm not sure what to believe less. From what I have read, it’s accurate. Believe what you want. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, shoshin said: Since Korea got its first confirmed case in late Jan (same day as the US), of course they weren't testing in January. Korea was testing widely in February, when it could still put a lid on this. By the end of February, with a population ~1/6 of the US, Korea had conducted 98K tests to the US 3K. You're kidding yourself if you don't think that their testing and tracing regimen didn't make a difference. It absolutely did. Korea's testing simply confirmed the self diagnosis by the individuals. Plus, 98K tests represents a small percentage (0.2%) of its population. For the tests to be fully effective like you think they were, a much higher proportion would have had to be tested. The results also weren't instantaneous, leaving a long period from test to diagnosis. Which means that in reality, SK did something else to stop the virus spread. The tests affirmed what people suspected, but social practices and self-quarantines were a greater factor than the minuscule test numbers. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 10 minutes ago, shoshin said: I agree that if we reopen too soon, we risk the gains we made to get this under control, but we can't stay closed and what we have now is a disease for two groups of the population: Group 1) Older people and people with health issues like hypertension, obesity (most of America), breathing issues, heart disease Group 2) The rest Group 2 is at a negligible risk. There are dog-bites-man stories about group 2 that are heartbreaking but they are the exception we remember, not the norm in any way. We should let group 2 get back to work and dedicate time and resources to helping group 1, who really need it. I agree with all of that. The problem is that Group 2 can and does facilitate spread to Group 1. There’s no right answer to any of this, and I absolutely understand the economic impact of waiting too long. My lingering concern remains not waiting enough, risking a reset of the pause, and further exacerbating an already calamitous economic situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, meazza said: They also are a society that looks after their elderly . Once this is all said and done, we will all have to look into the mirror into how as a society, we treat our elderly. From what I have read, it’s accurate. Believe what you want. Italy is just as good about that, but they got baptized by the pandemic. Iran was getting pummeled by this evil virus, and the curve quickly flattened with very little explanation, except in April in that part of the world the temps go up substantially (except in the north, where there are still hot zones), and monsoon season ends (yes, believe it or not it is a thing there) which allows for much greater amounts of sunlight. I predict when things calm down and we can take a deep breath and study this we will see much more how environmental factors really do mitigate this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 1 minute ago, MILFHUNTER#518 said: Italy is just as good about that, but they got baptized by the pandemic. Iran was getting pummeled by this evil virus, and the curve quickly flattened with very little explanation, except in April in that part of the world the temps go up substantially (except in the north, where there are still hot zones), and monsoon season ends (yes, believe it or not it is a thing there) which allows for much greater amounts of sunlight. I predict when things calm down and we can take a deep breath and study this we will see much more how environmental factors really do mitigate this. Yes i agree that the heat is a big factor which is why my friends in Senegal are not getting hit hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 1 minute ago, MILFHUNTER#518 said: I predict when things calm down and we can take a deep breath and study this we will see much more how environmental factors really do mitigate this. That's why it totally makes sense for Los Angelinos to be ordered to stay at home on 90 degree sunny days. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Update on the conference call. Based on your admission this morning that you have tiny baby hands, and based on certain deficiencies associated therewith, there was a desire to place you on a newly-created “ ‘Short’ list.” There also was a desire to get you to change your screen name to something less fake or “hoaxy” and potentially more accurate, such as “Third and Short” or “Third and a Couple of Inches.” I fought against the changes, and was able to get them to compromise. Basically, if you change your avatar to something more accurate, they’ll let you keep your “hoaxy” screen name and will not place you on the “ ‘Short’ list.” This is the avatar that was suggested: Calling a 900 number call a "conference call" is nothing more than code for an interactive encounter with a video sex worker. The fact that you discussed the size of my unit is disturbing. Is nothing confidential? One would think that if you suck for a living you'd swallow that fact rather than spitting it out there for all to see. In addition, what's with the porn pic above? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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oldmanfan Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 23 minutes ago, shoshin said: I agree that if we reopen too soon, we risk the gains we made to get this under control, but we can't stay closed and what we have now is a disease for two groups of the population: Group 1) Older people and people with health issues like hypertension, obesity (most of America), breathing issues, heart disease Group 2) The rest Group 2 is at a negligible risk. There are dog-bites-man stories about group 2 that are heartbreaking but they are the exception we remember, not the norm in any way. We should let group 2 get back to work and dedicate time and resources to helping group 1, who really need it. I understand we are focused on the mortality rate of the virus, but one should also keep in mind the potential for long term morbidity. For example, there is concern now that there may be a higher incidence of clotting disorders that could be affecting younger populations. Not saying that should necessarily stop folks for going out, but as a reminder than even the younger population should be using protective measures as things start to open back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Calling a 900 number call a "conference call" is nothing more than code for an interactive encounter with a video sex worker. The fact that you discussed the size of my unit is disturbing. Is nothing confidential? One would think that if you suck for a living you'd swallow that fact rather than spitting it out there for all to see. In addition, what's with the porn pic above? Hoax. I didn’t call a 900 number. And you’re the one who opened the door to the tiny baby hands problem. You seem to have some anger issues. I’m sorry about that. I usually count to 10 when I get mad. I find that very helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Warren Zevon said: Where's the beef? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, MILFHUNTER#518 said: Italy is just as good about that, but they got baptized by the pandemic. Iran was getting pummeled by this evil virus, and the curve quickly flattened with very little explanation, except in April in that part of the world the temps go up substantially (except in the north, where there are still hot zones), and monsoon season ends (yes, believe it or not it is a thing there) which allows for much greater amounts of sunlight. I predict when things calm down and we can take a deep breath and study this we will see much more how environmental factors really do mitigate this. My concern is that certain countries like Iran, China and North Korea are not giving out true information. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, oldmanfan said: I understand we are focused on the mortality rate of the virus, but one should also keep in mind the potential for long term morbidity. For example, there is concern now that there may be a higher incidence of clotting disorders that could be affecting younger populations. Not saying that should necessarily stop folks for going out, but as a reminder than even the younger population should be using protective measures as things start to open back up. Agreed. I think about it in terms of lung capacity. But isn’t there data re: higher incidents of stroke in younger people, too? That’s sort of the problem with reopening. There is so much unknown, and it’s almost impossible to properly evaluate and balance all of the risks. I wish there were good answers to all of these competing and valid considerations . . . Edited April 28, 2020 by SectionC3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Hoax. I didn’t call a 900 number. And you’re the one who opened the door to the tiny baby hands problem. You seem to have some anger issues. I’m sorry about that. I usually count to 10 when I get mad. I find that very helpful. You usually count to ten? Why can't you do so the other times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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