Warren Zevon Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 hour ago, CoudyBills said: And now? Glad he acted presidential and addressed the nation. Not sure what to think, though, about him going to NATO for help (doesn't he hate NATO?) and claiming he killed 100% of ISIS. I think to act like this is over and either side won is stupid. Nobody wins or loses in wars except for those that die - sadly there is more bloodshed to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted January 8, 2020 Author Share Posted January 8, 2020 Don't forget the true heroes of WW3. Thank you for your service: And for the reporting, while under missile fire: And the leadership, despite being under sniper fire: 4 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 hour ago, keepthefaith said: For Gary since he may have missed the news so far today plus a refresher. Didn't miss *****. The administration looks great today. Proud as always to be an American. Back to my TDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 . 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Hedge said: If true, this has taken on an entirely new life: Who they are being arrested BY is the real question. Within the IRGC? Ordered by Khamenei? I have to believe it was condoned by Khamenei. And if so, why is it being done? Maybe Soleimani was planning on seizing control in Iran? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 37 minutes ago, Gary Busey said: Glad he acted presidential and addressed the nation. Not sure what to think, though, about him going to NATO for help (doesn't he hate NATO?) and claiming he killed 100% of ISIS. I think to act like this is over and either side won is stupid. Nobody wins or loses in wars except for those that die - sadly there is more bloodshed to come. He hates NATO? That's a new spin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, GG said: He hates NATO? That's a new spin. You're right - I don't think he hates NATO, though he has disparaged the alliance many times. Odd for him to use it in his speech. IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Gary Busey said: You're right - I don't think he hates NATO, though he has disparaged the alliance many times. Odd for him to use it in his speech. IMO He's disparaged the contributions vs benefits of member nations, not the idea of NATO. He's right on those accounts. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted January 8, 2020 Author Share Posted January 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gary Busey said: You're right - I don't think he hates NATO, though he has disparaged the alliance many times. Odd for him to use it in his speech. IMO I don’t find it odd. Now that other countries are ponying up more of the operating costs, it’s time to make it work for us and get a return on our investment. Another genius stroke IMO. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Just now, GG said: He's disparaged the contributions vs benefits of member nations, not the idea of NATO. He's right on those accounts. He has called NATO obsolete and has avoided publicly backing Article 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Hedge said: I saw a short video last night purportedly showing a missile being intercepted and blown up by our military. I could be wrong though and it was just something that happened on a Kentucky gun range. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Hedge said: That's about the failure rate I would have expected - little better, actually. Like I said last night, Iran has a significant aerospace capability, but little opportunity to test. And Western failure rates are better...but not by much. 10% or so. depending on the platform and weapon. As I recall, the Minuteman III's reliability rate was only around 70%. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 https://twitter.com/HeshmatAlavi/status/1215020051998396416 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 second video https://twitter.com/BabakTaghvaee/status/1214992023838691330 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 28 minutes ago, Foxx said: second video https://twitter.com/BabakTaghvaee/status/1214992023838691330 Yesterday was a bad day for Iran. Missed killing Americans and killed 180 or so others. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted January 8, 2020 Author Share Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: Yesterday was a bad day for Iran. Missed killing Americans and killed 180 or so others. +50ish more during the stampede. And a conflicting opinion from the "Pentagon": ------------------------------------------------------------------------ But at least there is consensus on the Congressional briefing... Edited January 8, 2020 by Hedge 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 26 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: Yesterday was a bad day for Iran. Missed killing Americans and killed 180 or so others. All part of the plan....experiences like yesterday and this week should have them begging for US delegation to fly over and start teaching them western democracy any minute now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 19 minutes ago, Hedge said: Those missiles are not that accurate. Most have a CEP on the order of a thousand meters or so. If they Iranians "chose" to aim at dirt, they would have missed and hit something of value. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted January 8, 2020 Author Share Posted January 8, 2020 Was it bring your own AOC to work day at the Pentagon that necessitated this? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, Hedge said: Was it bring your own AOC to work day at the Pentagon that necessitated this? Do you hate dogs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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