IDBillzFan Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Gavin in Va Beach said: Proof that the Republicans need to play to win, because the Democrats have no qualms about digging up all the dirt they can find to try and derail Trump and Republicans. Corruption needs to be rooted out and the players need to be ARRESTED, no matter where they are found or what letter is beside their name. If no one faces justice from the FISA/Dossier/Spying and all the other crimes we know have been committed, if Comey and Brennan (to name a few) walk because too many people are afraid of what would happen if they were charged with their crimes, then this country is truly *****. Absolutely. If the Dems are genuinely stupid enough to go to round 2 for impeachment, it's time to open up some vaults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 31 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said: Foxx, it is an interesting topic. Thx. Maybe it should be changed. I posed the question 'if you were OK with the ability of the minority to keep from even bringing charges'. If the House process is similar to bringing charges while the Senate holds the trial, should there be a lower bar to formally accuse versus to convict? Again, in question form. I think sometimes people want to fix the 'bad thing' that they perceive happened to them, so they propose a solution that will not allow that particular bad thing to recur. Often I have found that those rapid response solutions may not have thought the possibilities through from every angle. In other words, the fix may address the bad thing that just happened but if not well thought out, can create situations that could be unforeseen. as i stated during our conversation, i don't know what the remedy is or should be. i only know that what just happened was something that the founders greatly feared. as a way to avoid this in the future, there should be some mechanism in place towards that end. if a 2/3rd's majority is required to convict, i see no reason why something along those lines shouldn't be required to initiate such an investigation. again, i know that i am not alone in those thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Why I’m Not Upset with Mitt Romney by Michael Brown Original Article Before you crucify me for not condemning “the traitor,” please hear me out. My position has nothing to do with whether I agree with Romney’s “guilty” vote on the first article of impeachment. And it has nothing to do with whether I believe he is a true conservative. Or even a loyal Republican for that matter. It has to do with something far deeper. Are you willing to hear me out? I’m quite aware of the litany of charges against Mitt Romney’s past political record and business dealings . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in Mich Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Gavin in Va Beach said: Proof that the Republicans need to play to win, because the Democrats have no qualms about digging up all the dirt they can find to try and derail Trump and Republicans. Corruption needs to be rooted out and the players need to be ARRESTED, no matter where they are found or what letter is beside their name. If no one faces justice from the FISA/Dossier/Spying and all the other crimes we know have been committed, if Comey and Brennan (to name a few) walk because too many people are afraid of what would happen if they were charged with their crimes, then this country is truly *****. We agree there (bolded). Find out what was at the root of the FISA/Dossier/Spying issues, party affiliation is immaterial. I am not aware what specific evidence possibly incriminates those you are pointing at, but if there is more than accusations, make the case, charge them, and take them to trial. Sometimes I think accusers point to something that is suspicious but then have little proof of any actual misdeed. They just keep implying it looks corrupt without actual proof. Keeping the suspicion afloat can be enough if the accusation was done for political purposes. Half the country thinks that Trump just acted corruptly with the Ukraine saga. It seems many Congressional Repubs were willing to overlook Trump's corruption essentially (for hundreds) out of fear of political repercussions. That is why about half the country thinks we are well on our way to being truly ***** already. Edited February 7, 2020 by Bob in Mich 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bob in Mich said: ... Sometimes I think accusers point to something that is suspicious but then have little proof of any actual misdeed. They just keep implying it looks corrupt without actual proof. Keeping the suspicion afloat can be enough if the accusation was done for political purposes. ... ummm... are you referring to the recently just completed impeachment sham? because the description certainly fits. Edited February 7, 2020 by Foxx 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 14 hours ago, keepthefaith said: person's name? It was posted here just a day or two ago but a cursory look didn't bring it up. It was a picture of 4 men on the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 13 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: It was posted here just a day or two ago but a cursory look didn't bring it up. It was a picture of 4 men on the board. this one? it was posted in the, 'All Roads Lead to Ukraine' thread. https://twitter.com/rising_serpent/status/1225169907614212096 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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keepthefaith Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 13 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Like I said earlier this week, the dems had their worst month in years and in just a few days. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 36 minutes ago, Foxx said: this one? it was posted in the, 'All Roads Lead to Ukraine' thread. https://twitter.com/rising_serpent/status/1225169907614212096 Thanks. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 This is why the left is such a mess. Full denial. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin in Va Beach Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: This is why the left is such a mess. Full denial. You gotta wonder why the Dems let this idiot go on TV. Every time she speaks they must lose a handful of voters. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: This is why the left is such a mess. Full denial. The single dumbest senator in congress today. Just listening to her voice drops your IQ by 5 points. 5 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 5 hours ago, Azalin said: Ah, but the Russians will secure the election for him, remember? Oh yeah. I forgot about the Putin Puppet angle. Never mind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: The single dumbest senator in congress today. Just listening to her voice drops your IQ by 5 points. She makes Hank Johnson look downright intelligent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 ....thought I read that Southwest is now featuring ONE WAY flights to Gitmo.....major (former) Government Officials Discounts available.......... Impeachment witness Vindman fired, escorted out of White House after Trump acquittal By John Roberts, Brooke Singman | Fox News Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, who made waves as a witness during the Trump impeachment proceedings, was fired Friday by the National Security Council and escorted off of the White House grounds, Fox News has confirmed. Vindman was on detail to the National Security Council from the Department of Defense, and it is expected he will return there. It comes just two days after President Trump was acquitted in the Senate on the impeachment charges brought by the House last year over his dealings with Ukraine. In a lengthy statement, Vindman’s attorney, David Pressman, confirmed that Vindman had been escorted out of the White House on Friday. “There is no question in the mind of any American why this man’s job is over, why this country now has one less soldier serving it at the White House,” Pressman said. “LTC Vindman was asked to leave for telling the truth. His honor, his commitment to right, frightened the powerful.” https://www.foxnews.com/politics/vindman-to-leave-nsc-after-trump-acquittal 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 40 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....thought I read that Southwest is now featuring ONE WAY flights to Gitmo.....major (former) Government Officials Discounts available.......... Impeachment witness Vindman fired, escorted out of White House after Trump acquittal By John Roberts, Brooke Singman | Fox News Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, who made waves as a witness during the Trump impeachment proceedings, was fired Friday by the National Security Council and escorted off of the White House grounds, Fox News has confirmed. Vindman was on detail to the National Security Council from the Department of Defense, and it is expected he will return there. It comes just two days after President Trump was acquitted in the Senate on the impeachment charges brought by the House last year over his dealings with Ukraine. In a lengthy statement, Vindman’s attorney, David Pressman, confirmed that Vindman had been escorted out of the White House on Friday. “There is no question in the mind of any American why this man’s job is over, why this country now has one less soldier serving it at the White House,” Pressman said. “LTC Vindman was asked to leave for telling the truth. His honor, his commitment to right, frightened the powerful.” https://www.foxnews.com/politics/vindman-to-leave-nsc-after-trump-acquittal Maybe a more extensive background report would get the opinions of former superiors and make a determination that he wasn't fit to serve anywhere in the government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 3 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: The single dumbest senator in congress today. Just listening to her voice drops your IQ by 5 points. Patty Murray is close to the top. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 We’ll probably see the usual two-step about this news on the Hill. Step one: Republicans in Congress say, “We shouldn’t assume the worst about the president’s motives. Maybe he removed Vindman for reasons other than retaliation.” Step two: Trump turns around this afternoon or tomorrow and flatly admits to reporters that it was retaliation. “The son of a B word testified against me. He had to go.” Then there’ll be some sort of halting step three. A sheepish “it’s not what I would have done” from the now-burned Susan Collins crowd, an enthusiastic “the son of a B word had to go” from the Matt Gaetz chorus. Why don’t they just skip steps one and two? You’d think they would have learned by now. Go straight to three. https://hotair.com/archives/allahpundit/2020/02/07/alex-vindman-removed-nsc-post-escorted-white-house/ . 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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