B-Man Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Their "evidence" is a tell-all book…............? 3 hours ago, Gary Busey said: If it is what the NYT represents, it was weeks after the call when the idea of tying aid to investigating Biden corruption was first floated. It destroys the Democrat case, to the extent there ever was one. . 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Great. Dems have now relied on Trump' scumbag lawyer, a lifelong Republican FBI agent, an ambulance chaser porn star lawyer, and now one of the biggest neocons of the Bush administration to take down Trump. politics makes strange bedfellows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 minute ago, /dev/null said: politics makes strange bedfellows An enemy of my enemy is my friend I guess, but maybe do some background work before putting your faith in people you would generally despise. This is a cash grab by Bolton for his book. He could've come out with this information a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: An enemy of my enemy is my friend I guess We saw how well that worked with Stalin and Mao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 A former advisor to the President and the NY Times turned impeachment hearings into a marketing strategy and there are still people wandering around wondering how we ever ended up with Donald Trump. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 3 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Great. Dems have now relied on Trump' scumbag lawyer, a lifelong Republican FBI agent, an ambulance chaser porn star lawyer, and now one of the biggest neocons of the Bush administration to take down Trump. who was it who picked such an upstanding citizen to be the National Security Advisor????? ...Trump sure knows how to pick em don't he LOL......can Bolton be a scumbag and be telling the truth regarding his ex-boss? I think his testimony won't matter (If he is even allowed to and even if he is telling the truth) the real jury will speak during the next presidential election.by way of .American voters .that's the way I see it. Trump supporters are cultish in their devotion to him this new relevation wont change a thing in the senates impeachment trial. Nada zippo not a thing. Minds are already made up along party lines I'd be shocked if this amounts to anything. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Margarita said: Trump supporters are cultish in their devotion to him this new relevation wont change a thing in the senates impeachment trial. You mean like Obama supporters and their "cultish" support? Or the "cultish" support that Bush supporters had for GW? Or like the "cultish" support that Clinton supporters had for Bill? Or for Reagan? What about the Bernie, Warren, Hillary, etc "cultists"? Why do you find it necessary to describe peoples' support for Trump as "cultish in their devotion"? Does that make it easier for you to wave off their support for Trump as being something irrational? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 14 minutes ago, Azalin said: You mean like Obama supporters and their "cultish" support? Or the "cultish" support that Bush supporters had for GW? Or like the "cultish" support that Clinton supporters had for Bill? Or for Reagan? What about the Bernie, Warren, Hillary, etc "cultists"? Why do you find it necessary to describe peoples' support for Trump as "cultish in their devotion"? Does that make it easier for you to wave off their support for Trump as being something irrational? I find it necessary to call them cultish because my opinion is his supporters wouldn't acknowledge any wrongdoing on his part even if proven beyond any doubt it existed there would be some sort of rationalization why which in my mind is irrational Yes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Margarita said: I find it necessary to call them cultish because my opinion is his supporters wouldn't acknowledge any wrongdoing on his part even if proven beyond any doubt it existed there would be some sort of rationalization why which in my mind is irrational Yes. Have you actually discussed this with any Trump supporters to the point where your opinion deems it necessary to label them cultists? It seems to me that your use of the word "rationalization" describes your thought process perfectly. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Azalin said: Have you actually discussed this with any Trump supporters to the point where your opinion deems it necessary to label them cultists? It seems to me that your use of the word "rationalization" describes your thought process perfectly. me thinks you protest too much not a single peep regarding any other point of my OP but one word in regards to his followers triggered you....interesting 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, Margarita said: I find it necessary to call them cultish because my opinion is his supporters wouldn't acknowledge any wrongdoing on his part even if proven beyond any doubt it existed there would be some sort of rationalization why which in my mind is irrational Yes. Question: Have you acknowledged the fact that the Russian collusion/conspiracy narrative was a complete hoax, fomented and pushed by the previous administration while they abused the massive powers of surveillance and the intelligence communities in an effort to overturn a legitimate election? Trump didn't do that. Obama did. That's not theory. It's proven fact. Have you acknowledged it, or accepted it? Have you personally held accountable the news sources who lied to your face (knowingly) for three plus years in an effort to divide the country, not report truth? Or nah? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Margarita said: me thinks you protest too much not a single peep regarding any other point of my OP but one word in regards to his followers triggered you....interesting I'm more interested in getting to the bottom of your prejudice. You paint with a very broad brush and attempt to justify it by calling it opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Question: Have you acknowledged the fact that the Russian collusion/conspiracy narrative was a complete hoax, fomented and pushed by the previous administration while they abused the massive powers of surveillance and the intelligence communities in an effort to overturn a legitimate election? Trump didn't do that. Obama did. That's not theory. It's proven fact. Have you acknowledged it, or accepted it? Have you personally held accountable the news sources who lied to your face (knowingly) for three plus years in an effort to divide the country, not report truth? Or nah? **eyerolls*** laughs....you all have a nice night . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 49 minutes ago, Margarita said: who was it who picked such an upstanding citizen to be the National Security Advisor????? ...Trump sure knows how to pick em don't he LOL......can Bolton be a scumbag and be telling the truth regarding his ex-boss? I think his testimony won't matter (If he is even allowed to and even if he is telling the truth) the real jury will speak during the next presidential election.by way of .American voters .that's the way I see it. Trump supporters are cultish in their devotion to him this new relevation wont change a thing in the senates impeachment trial. Nada zippo not a thing. Minds are already made up along party lines I'd be shocked if this amounts to anything. I didn't vote for Trump and won't in the next election. I don't like him and most of his domestic policies. Bolton's a grifter who's playing the Resistance for profit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Margarita said: **eyerolls*** laughs....you all have a nice night . So which one is cultish and unwilling to accept reality? I can prove what I said — you cannot prove the inverse. The media spent three years telling you what was false was actually true — while calling trump a liar. Cognitive dissonance hurts. But you can work through it if you’re willing to be honest and reassess what you think you know. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: So which one is cultish and unwilling to accept reality? I can prove what I said — you cannot prove the inverse. The media spent three years telling you what was false was actually true — while calling trump a liar. Cognitive dissonance hurts. But you can work through it if you’re willing to be honest and reassess what you think you know. Good luck with that. From previous posts, it appears you are trying to have a discussion with a person who is all about “feelings.” Edited January 27, 2020 by Buffalo_Gal 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Margarita said: I find it necessary to call them cultish because my opinion is his supporters wouldn't acknowledge any wrongdoing on his part even if proven beyond any doubt it existed there would be some sort of rationalization why which in my mind is irrational Yes. So, like Obama supporters. 48 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Good luck with that. From previous posts, it appears you are trying to have a discussion with a person who is all about “feelings”. Yes. "She" is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 22 hours ago, Gary Busey said: @Tiberius - they miss you! Happy Monday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 7 hours ago, Azalin said: Have you actually discussed this with any Trump supporters to the point where your opinion deems it necessary to label them cultists? It seems to me that your use of the word "rationalization" describes your thought process perfectly. He probably picked it up off of his favorite Democratic talking point website. Cultist is just another way to smear Trump and his supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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